jefferiah

Morality and punishment are two different issues, Sir. One says what is right and wrong, the other says what should be done about it. If there were 100 people shot tomorrow for shoplifting chocolate bars I would not condone that punishment. Nonetheless become some bozos think it is reasonable to shoot someone for stealing a chocolate bar I would not waver and say chocolate bar theft should be legal.

You might want to look into some other parts of the world about that thought. http://www.arabnews.com/?page=1§ion=0&...&d=5&m=6&y=2003 Actually I am not going to look at your link period. The reason for this is it has nothing to do with the argument you were making----that to say yes to the moral argument is to say yes to cutting off hands. We live in Canada, sir, and I am sure that opponents of the legalized prostitution are not thinking "Oh Damn, if they legalize it we cant cut off prostitutes' hands anymore." So look. Stick to the point.

By the time of Pliny the Elder in the 1st century, however, the Earth's spherical shape was generally acknowledged among the learned in the western world. Around then Ptolemy derived his maps from a curved globe and developed the system of latitude, longitude, and climes. His writings remained the basis of European astronomy throughout the Middle Ages, although Late Antiquity and the Early Middle Ages (ca. 3rd to 7th centuries) saw occasional arguments in favor of a flat Earth. The modern misconception that people of the Middle Ages believed that the Earth was flat first entered the popular imagination in the nineteenth century, thanks largely to the publication of Washington Irving's fantasy The Life and Voyages of Christopher Columbus in 1828. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth Pretty interesting huh?

No one is cutting off people's hands Jerry J. So you might as well leave that out of it. It's just a way to make the other side as you see it look bad, when not one of them is suggesting we cut off a hookers hands or burn a witch. The flat earth myth was a myth itself. Just FYI, cuz its interesting. It comes from the idea that Columbus was met with jeers for proposing that what could get to India by travelling west. He was met with jeers by the scholars at Universidad de Salamanca, but not because the earth was flat (it was accepted long long before this that the world was a sphere), but because they felt Columbus had underestimated the distance of the ocean. And they were right. Columbus did not get to India did he.

That bent old man believes in what he believes in and he is not softening his position to be popular. I rather think that he has not fallen at all. When the Catholic Church was full of might it was then fallen. But "when I am weak I am strong." The Pope just achieved a victory, and you dont understand it. The truth is the truth even when it falls on deaf ears, BC Chick.

Based on whose opinion are you doing such a good job while we do such a piss-poor job? A perceived advantage of legalized prostitution is not the fulcrum of the entire debate. I don't think I need to explain it to you, so don't play ignorant.

Reading the article he doesnt sound frantic at all. Just firm in his belief. "Each marriage is certainly the fruit of free consent between man and woman," the Pope said in an audience at the Vatican marking the beginning of the judiciary year. "The union occurs because of the design by God, who has created them male and female and gives them the power to unite those natural and complementary dimensions forever," he said. This sounds right to me. He is not forcing people to listen to him. But he is making his concern known. That is not sad at all.

The mighty??? The guy is a bent old man. He is not some totalitarian dictator. Really, I am not a fan of the Catholic idea of infallibility of the Pope and all that, but these people who are so anti-pope never fail to astound me. Seriously the Pope knows the world is going to go against what he says anyway. He is just saying what he believes is right, and making a warning to the world that he feels is necessary. People dont warn you of things because they hate you.

So your point is, because legalization wouldn't solve every social problem imaginable, it isn't worth trying? I dont think thats his point at all. I think his point is to point out your arguments for it are not good.

Is it so unimaginable to you that people would be opposed to legalizing prostitution? Hello......

Actually there is a problem with the term reverse-discrimination! It implies that discrimination has a direction from which it is supposed to flow. And yep women do it too. I have heard women talking about men who do not measure up to macho standards as pathetic and poke fun at them for being whimpy. Hmmm so I dont know if all this male female role stuff is such a one way street. Anyhow.

And what would that be pray tell Margrace? That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. I will ask my grandmother what she thinks....and when she says she disagrees are you going to tell me she has a hidden agenda too.

Wow Kimmy

If the ratings are dropping that means its found a home on CBC and will not die at all.

It is inapparopriate on so many levels, it is sickening. I dont think "Indian" would offend a native as much as its offending you Catch Me. In New Brunswick I have worked at jobs where people call me squarehead cuz I am english-speaking. And I call them frogs right back. And whatever you may think of this, these people are just joking with me and nobody breaks out in little arseholes and shits all over the place the way you are doing. You have called people stupid and uneducated here, but you get very very picky about a little term that I think most people can understand. You are actually flying off the handle about this. Now you know that when Columbus got here he was looking for India and he called the people here Indians. We all know he was wrong. But Indian is not offensive. It does not mean anything insulting----or else you dont like people from India I take it. Lol...you are really fishing. First its a joke with a native in it---a group Mayes doesnt even belong to. And now you are using it as denigration of civil servants. Lol I must at least give you credit for being persistent little Liberal mosquitoes. So now Mayes cant even joke about his own. Remember he didnt write the joke. He "took" a joke about civil servants well.

It is inapparopriate on so many levels, it is sickening. A native girl I know said herself she thinks its just a joke and people are getting up in arms over nothing.

Horrific acts and legalization of prostitution are a seperate debate.

Now hold on Shiela Broflovski, it doesn't mean anything. I was watching the Colbert report and he makes fun of people all the time. How is this any different, what's wrong with cracking a joke. Get a sense of humour for chrissakes. It's not misogynist, would you prefer if I told you to stop getting you're knickers tied up in a knot? I think Catchme just likes to get offended by everything, and victimize everyone over semantics. I give her a bit more credit than that Canadian Blue. She likes to be offended over anything and a voctim over anything when it supports her agenda.

The joke, and his approval and recommending it while forwarding it after is plenty enough. It went to his MP's office, and was forwarded from there. This also makes anything he does in committeee suspect, and subject to suspicion, meaning he cannot do his job adequately. And sweet, you approve of a racist joke and add a misogynist comment as well. Hmmm.....so if Canadian Blue says "panties tied in a knot" this means he hates the female gender? That's ridiculous Catch Me and you know it.

It's nice to see so many people come to the defense of the Mennonites.

Ah, you're one of those who thinks throwing the word Liberal out there is a rebuttal, I see. Alright, then I ask directly: Is it true that the government makes billions of dollars in taxing cigarettes and alcohol every year? Is it true that cigarettes and alcohol kills thousands of people in Canada every year? If so, is the government financially benefiting from selling legalised substances that kill many Canadians every year? What government raised these taxes?

Well, Catch Me, if the Mennonite in question has been living in Canada for so long and was considered a citizen for so many years only to be told now they are not-----well I dont think they should be deported. But perhaps a Latin American Mennonite should have to undergo the same process to get back in that other immigrants have.

That's a pretty silly thing to say. By that logic any political party that opposes legalising prostitution is complicit in the murder of the prostitutes every year. And don't even get me started with the murder of its citizens through selling cigarettes or alcohol. No, you are not following that logic correctly at all. You are being being very "Liberal" with logic.

The Liberals will dig up anything.

I think he meant reliable source.