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Remus,
What I am saying is now is the time for the Conservatives to recognize where the growth lies.
Harper stated, "we need the red Tory vision of social programs." He only said it once as far as I know and did not say it loud enough.
If the Conservatives fail here, well, you can see a Canada where the NDP or Bloq have more influence in Canada.
We can't keep watching a rump party flow between fifty and a hundred seats like the NDP flows from eight to twenty back and fourth decades after decades going nowhere.
What is better in Alberta eyes, the Red Tory vision within a party or the NDP's vision in government?
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If ones goals are to become a slightly bigger rump ya Jacks done it!
He did nothing for the NDP Party except give them more tax payers money via the Cretien Election Law.
That was the goal of the Green Party too.
Ah, success.
Harper at least admitted disappoinment and just confirms how deluded the NDP is when they celebrate this election. No record number of seats, not even the balance of power. Has any dipper expressed disappointment?
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I think Albertans should realize that Ontario now has the exact same representation in the Conservative caucus.
All those years of being the predominate voice in caucus has ended. Ontario has just said we want in.....to the party. I guess you should be carefull of what you wish for. This time Ontarios voice is equal, next time Alberta may be the minority in caucus and have very little influence.
If Quebec gets on board further influencing the party.....well you can see where this is going. Bye -Bye Alberta dominated party. We are really just two elections away from becoming Progressive Conservatives again, as Urban Ontario and the east and Quebec invade it.
This is what Conservatives are hoping for when they wish to form government. Once you elect enough from these regions (Toronto,Quebec, Atlantic) they become the shaping force of the party. Think about it Albertans, no where else to grow. Change or be changed, we have reached the glass ceiling.
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Cheryl Gallant won her seat
Randy White won his seat
Scott Reid won his seat
Any body else?
Central Canada may not like it but two of them are representing Ontario ridings and had the guts to speak about social issues and won. Good for them.
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Add three more firsts for the Conservative Party.
Along with the first ever female cabinet member we can now boast of the first female Indo-Canadian elected to parliament.
The first elected person with a physical disability
and the first husband and wife.
The party labeled as harmful to minority rights keeps on doing what no other party does, giving them a voice in the House of Commons.
The bigot Scott Brison will not be missed.
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don't forget Atstatic Canada
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john reynolds moved in front
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Hey folks don't get too upset it may be that the liberals may not do it 135 with the NDP19
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Just a few words,
I'm not a superstitious person but I observed a few interesting "omens" on voting day.
I don't feel silly considering the G&M
consulted witches and astrologers prior to the vote.
Before voting I had to mail a box to Winnipeg. After about 20 Mins In line some guy behind me says, "where is the Fed-X outlet?". Then I thought "WOW" Canadians refuse to stand in line for mail service at the Government run outlet but may very well vote to stand in line for health services at the government run outlet.
This guy knew instinctively to opt for better service and said so. Nobody chastized him for saying it and wishing for an American company to lessen his waiting time. Maybe this will be manifest in the election too, I thought.
The church I voted in was on Stockwell Drive....Interesting.
I came back home to find no audio on CBC Newsworld. I could see Don Newman and Norman Spector but no sound . I laughed out loud at the Liberal mouthpiece silenced on election night........Spooky.
Well we will see if there is anything to it.
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Tories.....133
Libs........111
Bloq........48
NDP........16
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Does this sound familiar
Peterson's successor, Lyn McLeod, was expected to return the Liberals to power against a very unpopular Rae, and a right-wing, tax-cutting, low-profile Tory leader, Mike Harris.Just three days before the election, a Gallup poll showed the Harris Conservatives and the Liberals in a "neck and neck" battle with decided voters - Tory 39 per cent, Liberals 38 and NDP 20.
But when Ontarians went to the polls, Harris went up six points and wound up with 44.8 per cent support and 82 seats and McLeod dropped seven and finished with 31.1 per cent and 30 seats.
Closet Conservatives perhaps?
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Reverend,
I think you should read this in the hated Star.
I have no problems with this guy being PM. He is not a social conservative, he defeated them when he was elected leader of the Alliance.
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Let me see if I can interject into this verbal circle jerk.
Is Harper Canadas' GW Bush?
Well that is deep man, lets see.
Daddy was a leader of his Nation = Bush
Daddy was an accountant = Harper
Daddy was a Minister in his Nation = Martin
Bush = Became rich with the help of rich friends
Harper = not rich
Martin = Became rich with the help of rich friends
Bush = biggest tax cut in nations history
Harper = proposes 1/3 cuts Martin implemented
Martin = biggest tax cuts in nations history
Bush = Destruction of financial center, Two wars and corporate scandals leads nation to increase its debt.
Harper = wants to give the surpluses to Canadians, Provinces, Military.
Martin = cuts social spending transfers and gives money to his company $160 million, Party ad firms $250 millon, has no desire to end fiscal imbalance.
Ok so do you remember Sesame Street when they played the game "one of these things is not like the other", obviously not a popular game with future detractors, but play anyway.
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Ceasar
See way back in the early to mid 90's through to 2000 Canada was number one on this scale. Now we have actually dropped below the US.
So Bono can say the world needs more Canada but what he meant is more Canda as it was after Mulroney not now after 11 years of Liberal rule.
We're # 8! behind the US on a scale that is valued by lefties, do some research then get back to me.
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Hey Rev,
First please don't talk down to Big Blue simply because he has more on the ball and seems to be able to discern truth from fabrication more readily than you.
The Conservatives are not talking "an American stlye system", they are simply saying more delivery from private centers, clinics, whatever. People won't have to wait two years for surgery or 8-10 hours for stitches. Except those people that are only willing to go through the public system, good luck with that.
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Keeping the entire North End awake all night in true static fashion.
I've never been rich but will vote Conservative again. They are responsible for turning Canada into Number one on the UN human developement index scale. We are now Number seven.
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This is great, the same people that didn't want regime change in Iraq want the same for Canada, interesting.
I wonder why?
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Here is a little something I sent to the Star. Instead of Re- writing it i pasted it here for you all.
To the editorial board,The next time you or your family suffer some kind of infection or illness or trauma. Don't go to the clinic in the mall because it is private. Don't go to your doctors office because he owns it in partnership with the other doctors there. Instead you should go to the only publicly owned first entry health system, your emergency ward. I dare you to spend 8 ours waiting for anti-biotics and pain killers while your finger throbs from the cut you received at your Bar-B-Q. I mean you could go to your doctors office but it is private and because your idiots you would rather go to the public system and wait 8 hours.
This is fine for you but why continue to tell Canadians this is in their best interests? Why do you continue to fabricate that the Conservatives support a two-teir system when all they seem to be saying is the more clinics the better, whoever owns them? Can you not get this around your micro brains?
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Tories..............125
Libs.................107
Bloq................49
NDP................23
Green.............2
IND.................2
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Not much of a platform really, is it? It also is not at all clear that they'll be able to do it without cutting programs and introducing user fees, which could well cost more than $1000/year.
How does a federal government introduce user fees?
How 'bout putting it this way, The Conservatives, by cutting taxes will help Ontarians pay the premiums on health introduced by a Liberal Government with the backing of another Liberal Government?
How about tax cuts for families without cutting transfers for health as the liberals did?
How about shrinking the government and growing the economy to pay for more health care?
How about ending the public monopoly on health care?
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This poll was taken during the same period that the SES shows a dip in support for the Conservatives. The trend has reversed as per SES and does not indicate anything substantial. Even at 28% the Conservatives get more seats. There is still much room to grow, seat wise.
Did anyone see the seat projections on global yesterday.
August1991 is correct
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PC's only had 16% and the Reform had 18%
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The Conservative Party did not exist in 2000 and since you claim the merger was a take over by the Alliance, why not just use the Alliance numbers. You discount the old PCers on one hand and count them on another.
Or maybe you would like a historical look. The Reform party was a baby in 1993 and now may form Government.
Compare that to the NDP that has never formed Official Opposition. Keep trying though, 'cus it usually helps the conservatives. All that is missing is the Conservative Quebec wing for it to be the permanent party in power. One day that will be resolved.
If any one can reconcille Quebec and Alberta the Liberals will be finished for along time. Federally they want the same thing but for different reasons. I believe it will be possible in the near future.
Oh ya, and after SES doubled the sample we find the Conservatives have not fell to 29% but remain at 33% or there about. So Paul Wells has to cancel his party yet agian and Maple will have to find yet another way to spin that the NDP are real competitors.
You might try what the Star did and state that it is almost possible to call Ontario a three way race Because the NDP is 6% shy of the liberals. Ya good luck with that.
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Winnipegger living in Kelowna
Conservative.
Thought Experiment
in Federal Politics in Canada
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Alberta would leave without question. This would play right into the non-cheese eaters hands as Mark Steyn clearly states.