Posts posted by jdobbin
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/091106/national/stimulus_blitzFederal cabinet ministers blitzed the country with economic stimulus announcements Friday in the face of dismal employment numbers that leave the Harper government far short of its job-creation targets.
Canada's economy shed 43,000 jobs in October, dropping the total number of employed to 16,794,800. That's at least 331,000 jobs less than the target the federal government set in its January budget for this point in the year.
I guess all the patting themselves on the back with the last month shows just how weak private job growth has been.
As I pointed out in the last employment update, the growth in jobs seemed to be all public sector.
You also said the conservatives would win a majority in 2008.
Think you forget what I said in full on that. I said that based on how poorly the Liberals were prepared, the Tories should win a massive majority.
yes "the" registry impling the "long" gun registry. The long gun registry out here is refer to as "the" gun registry. How many times does it need to be repeated for you.
I guess an actual Tory spokesman will have to tell me that they don't mean the handgun registry is ineffective. Forgive me not believing you as are anonymous.
Although it might play well in a few constituencies, I don't believe it would be a net vote getter for the Tories. Far from it in fact.
It is why I don't see it happening except early on in a majority mandate.An open minded, non partisan review of the complete firearms issue would be a refreshing change. Not likely however, regardless of who is in power.
Kind of silly not to since the evidence given could be compelling enough to change people's views one way or the other.
No you haven't you what you have is talk about the long gun registry.
You have nothing that proves what you insinuate about hand guns.
You keep saying it is just long guns but the Tory argument has been about effectiveness of the registry. If it useless to the police on long guns, why is it useful on handguns?
Your right their feelings aren't hidden, and thats why its asinine that you think the whole think could go, the tories are not getting rid of the whole thing, just the long gun registry.
I heard the same arguments made about why Harper would never call an election unless he lost as confidence vote too. You probably thought it was impossible when I said I believed he would do it back in 2006.
With just three days to go, I am going to bump Part 1 and Part 2 once per day until the election.
My thoughts on these two, is that the West is a CPC/NDP affair.
The East is a 3 way race (CPC,LPC,NDP) with the CPC holding advantage.
My feeling is that Nova Scotia will go Tory based on traditional voting patterns.
It is the B.C. riding that could be the surprise. Although I don't know the local situation or candidates with great detail, I think the Tories can win this seat.
The Liberals will finish well back in both ridings.
It won't be an election issue because it is not an issue. A majority of Canadians would oppose it regardless of who has a majority.
Quite possibly. But would enough oppose it to make it an issue next election? Don't know about that.Whatever system we try to use, it won't be successful if it doesn't have the support of those who must comply with it. I hope politicians have come to realize that this is something they will have to sell not impose if they want it to work.
It is why I believe that the whole thing needs to be looked at for effectiveness.
You have shown nothing, but innuendo and even in your own words "Why do I need prove for my own opinion on what he will do based on what Harper has said in the past?"
I have shown that Harper doesn't think registration is effective.
One thing we do know is that Harper sometimes goes against his word. Income trusts and fixed election dates come to mind. However, you somehow now think that ending the registry entirely is impossible.
The whole registry although I've never seen a full assessment of the entire thing.
Geez, we're back to the 'hidden agenda' again.
"unpopular choices early in their mandate" ? You do realize it's been several years...
I don't believe the Tories have hidden their feeling towards the registry. It is why I don't think it is impossible that the whole thing could go but not in without a majority.
Who did you ask and in what capacity ?
Think I already said I asked people in this forum to assess or to push for an assessment of the effectiveness of the registry.
For myself, I am pushing to get the MPs on the committee to look at the effectiveness in general and called my local MP to ask the committee to call witnesses. I have asked in the capacity as a constituent and taxpayer.
Although opposed to the registry when it was started, I do want to hear if it is useful and effective now. If it is found that the registry is useless, end it. But I want to know if that applies to the registry entirely. If one part of it is useless, why not all of it?
And you have been told time and time again it, the arguement, was always based on the LONG GUN REGISTRY which has always been refer to by its opponents as "the" gun registry.
But why? If the argument is that the registry is useless for long guns, why is it useful for handguns? If it is unreliable, costly and generally ineffective for one, why not the other?
The Tories follow the constitution, but I would like you to direct me to the line in the consitution where it says that the Pm can't follow the wishes of the people that that senate seat is suppose to represent. It is Common courtous and respect for the consitutency.
My view is that it bypasses the Constitution. It can't be forced on the provinces nor should it be forced on the federal government.
However, can you cite any source where a government official has said they want to end the handgun registry?
I said Tories have argued about the effectiveness about the registry in general. I cited Van Loan just making that argument. It is why I believe the Tories given a majority could make the same argument on handguns. Do you think that is completely impossible and if not, why not?
Sometimes government make unpopular choices early in their mandate knowing that it probably won't figure as much later on. I think that this may be such a case.
I know the Liberals won't end the database nor any other party but I do believe the Tories given the history of their arguments on registry could do it if it came as part of a package of crime bills on illegal gun use.
It's pretty simple Dobbin. As long as people go through the proper process of getting a license, and having it renewed....I don't care if people have a rifle or shotgun.....they have a useful purpose and cannot easily be concealed.
A rifle is hard to conceal. A sawed off shotgun not too difficult.I DO care if someone has a handgun and every single one should be registered.....and if they are not, the law is being broken.
But is it effective? The Tories say the registries are not effective and that the problem is with illegal handguns.
You are saying that the handgun registry is effective? Do you know for certain that it is?It has always been difficult to get licensed for a handgun and it should continue to be that way. Every single handgun should be accounted for. That's why the handgun registry must and should continue. There is not that need with long guns. As to how effective the handgun registry is with regards to immediate access and value by the police - I can't speak to that. I still maintain that the most important piece of information is whether an individual has a license to own a gun.....that means proceed with utmost caution.
Think that has been my argument. It is the licence that should first be looked at and tracked at all times. I am not convinced on a central database but want further study to confirm that.
My belief is that the Tories don't believe in it either but are not interested in studying the matter. It is why I think the argument that the database is useless would come after winning a majority. You seem to think it is childish to think that is possible.
If I saw a logical assessment that the database was both useless and costly and there were other choices available, I'd support the change.
As I have said many times here, I did not support the registry. However, I wanted to hear a full assessment on it before acting in haste.
I believed it was going to be expensive to run a central database on guns when licences seemed more important for policing.
LOL - next thing you know there will be "soldiers in the streets - with guns" along with all the other gun-happy maniacs!
One again, why the personalizing? I don't believe I have attacked you.
I have asked why the handgun registry is useful if the Tories believe the registry in general cannot be relied on. I've said I believe the Tories will end that handgun registry if they have a majority using the argument that it is ineffective. I keep hearing that is impossible but have not heard a good reason why.
Maybe the Liberals should learn how to respect the wishes of others, maybe they would be elected to a few more ridings if they did.
Maybe the Tories should respect the Constitution. They might win a majority if they did that.
Where are the Liberals?
I suspect in fourth place in one of the ridings. In the other, they may squeak out a third.
I think the NDP hurt themselves with some voting to end the gun registry. The BQ could win big.
That wasn't the tories it was/is the province of Alberta wanting its wishes respected within this countries federal government.
Unfortunately, the provinces don't get to decide their senators. If they do want that, they should ask for constitutional hearings instead of bypassing the process.
It probably does make him happy, because that way he knows his Liberal check is in the mail. If he doesn't scream, he doesnt get paid.
Why is that you consistently act out? I don't believe you need a check to act the way you do. It is in your nature to personalize.
It's not only that it's useless, but a complete waste of resources. 2 billion dollars could have been better spent in other ways. As one who wants to nickle and dime the construction of any new prison, you should be on our side of the issue.
Think I've said numerous times that I opposed the registry. Still, I'd like to see a full assessment of it before simply ending it.
My feeling is that if the long gun registry is useless and costly, it probably holds true for the hand gun one as well. But I wouldn't end it unless I was dead certain that a better approach could be made.
So what? They could ditch the handgun registry - but why would they? Nobody has asked for that, and I doubt that many people want that. The Tories want to be re-elected just like everybody else - they will do what their constituents want them to. Otherwise, the other party will get elected the next time and reinstate whatever registry you want...
But, shout 'secret agenda' from the rooftops as much as you want if it makes you happy.
I have said there is nothing secret about it. The Tories says the registry is useless. If it is, why keep it?
I personally think the issue should be studied but I was opposed to the idea of the registry in large part because I believed it was going to be expensive and not as useful as records on gun licences.
My view includes the handgun registry. I want to know if is truly and wholly useful.
I don't want to end either if they can be shown to be effective. However, my feeling is that neither of them is and that the focus should be on licencing.
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What the heck is happening with this party?