[Conservatives May have broken 2011 Election Rules.]

its a waste of money to pursue this.. it will be fought for years and in the end after a million wasted

they'll be fined 20,000 dollars

Canadians need to burn and blow shit up as punishment

let it be known to them that since EC is a POS organization with no real consequences

the only real justice is vigilante justice

[Conservatives May have broken 2011 Election Rules.]

American Left wing activist groups helped left wingers during robocall and American right wing groups

helped right wingers during election .. this has probably been going on for years

I am not offended by any of it

I wonder though if the conservatives who were offended are offended at this?

we know who you are

[Marlins Manager Suspended for Pro-Castro Comments]

Those people that live there had escaped Castros rule.. getting suspended was less than what I would have done. I'd have fired him

you just don't make insensitive comments like that in an area where the issue is very sensitive

[Should Canada acquire nuclear weapons?]

The Americans already beat you to it....we call it Alaska.

soon to be called Canaska

[Should Canada acquire nuclear weapons?]

Canada should just cut a deal with Russia and leave everyone else out of it

[Arizona women would be pregnant 2 weeks before conception]

Lol wut? I really don't know what to say anymore.. it's left me speechless, I just have to laugh

http://rt.com/usa/news/arizona-bill-conception-abortion-387/

Under Arizona’s H.B. 2036, the state would recognize the start of the unborn child’s life to be the first day of its mother’s last menstrual period. The legislation is being proposed so that lawmakers can outlaw abortions on fetuses past the age of 20-weeks, but the verbiage its authors use to construct a time cycle for the baby would mean that the start of the child's life could very well occur up to two weeks before the mother and father even ponder procreating.

On page eight of the proposed amendment to H.B. 2036, lawmakers lay out the “gestational age” of the child to be “calculated from the first day of the last menstrual period of the pregnant woman,” and from there, outlaws abortion “if the probable gestational age of [the] unborn child has been determined to be at least twenty weeks.”

[Should Canada acquire nuclear weapons?]

We will borrow the go to Russian strategy, Let the enemy in, and wait for winter. Lets hope the Americans are unprepared.

and then burn down our own villages?

[Should Canada acquire nuclear weapons?]

I guess there is no point in getting nukes if we are doomed anyway

[Should Canada acquire nuclear weapons?]

The Norwegians and Americans have been basing (not only deploying) single engine F-16s within the arctic since the 70s.

They haven't been in combat yet in the arctic with those jets... there is a possibility Canada will in the next 10 years

[Should Canada acquire nuclear weapons?]

For Canada proper, our current defence treaties (NATO and to a lesser extent NORAD) allow us to fall under the United States and United Kingdom (and a lesser extent the French) nuclear umbrellas.

And what if those are the countries we are feuding with?!

What if U.S wants something we have and tries taking it and the British & French back down from helping us cause of their alliance with the US?

[Should Canada acquire nuclear weapons?]

And, if I'm not mistaken, you are one of the posters bitching about the cost of the F35s--- just think how much you could bitch when the bill came in to develop, manufacture & store the nukes and then to get something to deliver them--- like a fleet of F35s. I guess that would make Canadians

my main problem with the F35s is that it is a single engine jet... and the Canadian arctic is vast, you know that

single engine jets protecting the arctic is a fail. I don't want to spend that much money on single engine jets

too much can go wrong

[Should Canada acquire nuclear weapons?]

Let's look at the big targets.

Any city over 300,000k is a prime target.

The smaller the city, the safer you are!

So move out of Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, Calgary, etc etc...

that is like 14 million people

[In-and-Out Investigation Cost Canadians over $2.3 million]

So when will the Liberal Party pay back the millions they stole from the taxpayers?

the liberal party was not found guilty..

[In-and-Out Investigation Cost Canadians over $2.3 million]

It cost taxpayers more than $2.3 million to investigate the Conservatives fraudulent activities. Since this investigation resulted in a guilty plea, should the Conservative Party of Canada be required to pay back the Canadian taxpayers the cost of investigating their criminal activities?

Yes they should have to pay it all back

[Should Canada acquire nuclear weapons?]

These waters connect to the whole planet's waters so whether you spill stuff here, there or anywhere is pretty much moot.

Which goes to the heart of why the idea of needing to defend ourselves against old style military invasions from Russia is so god damn silly in the first place. The world's just too integrated economically to be worth the trouble to fight old style wars anymore.

As for Americans pushing against our economic exclusion borders, they've been doing that for decades along our southern border that extends out to sea. There is still a small disputed area out here but since Canada pretty much forced all the Canadians who fished there out of business who cares?

Who cares?! That is your argument?

Why not just divy up the arctic and get it over with then cause why should we care

about it

[Should Canada acquire nuclear weapons?]

You know, now that you mention it, why should I care again about the odd boat that's 1000's of kilometres north of me?

Is possessing a bunch of stealth fighters supposed to change our ability to respond to their claim? What's to stop the US from installing a computer virus into the plane's software that makes them tumble out of the sky in case they decide to invade us?

I mean, given the ridiculous things I'm being told I should be fearful of these days, isn't everything probable?

i dont think we want all those ships carrying oil and stuff through our waters

[Should Canada acquire nuclear weapons?]

What I'm saying is that keeping the military as a strategic reserve when nature or manmade disaster strikes is the safest path for Canadians. At least in my mind, defence of Canada includes war, terrorism, Natural and man made disaster. Last year when Winnipeg was in danger, they requested help and I believe 300-400 PPCLI soldiers moved from Shilo to Winnipeg to assist. And with the current state, creating a major national organization to deal with disasters is likely not going to happen

Do you mean like The National Guard in the US?

[Should Canada acquire nuclear weapons?]

The best defense against nuclear weapons is to not live in urban centres

Over 70 % of Canadians live in cities...

[Should Canada acquire nuclear weapons?]

If Canada wants to keep the artic they should spend the money to colonize and develope it. Thats how you secure territory... if we built mines, cities, and ports there then we would have a pretty strong claim. If we dont, theres a good chance we we lose it, or at the very least have to share some it, no matter what we spend on our military.

on the flipside .. we build major communities up there and a pissed off rejected country bombs it

.. we can't just build and expect no push back from dejected countries

[Should Canada acquire nuclear weapons?]

A nuke would certainly be more of a deterrent than some fancy jets whose merits are dubious at best. I wonder why the "we need a deterrent" right-wing crowd wouldn't be all for this?

The F35's are no deterrent to a country with a larger military than our's. Canada's deterrent is south of the border.

I'm a left winger and I am all for it.. I doubt I am the only one!

That is true that for now we are protected by the US influence however US seems to be at odds

with Canada on a few claims so they will not back us up unless we give them some land and or resources in exchange

I say no! We get our own nukes and tell them if they really want what is ours

to come and get it but be prepared to get nuked.. they will back down

[Should Canada acquire nuclear weapons?]

Why you kick my dog?

LOL.. love those memes

[Should Canada acquire nuclear weapons?]

No-- one jet to deliver the one nuke. after that we would all need lead umbrellas & lots of caskets for the 20 million casualties.

Canada getting nuclear weapons is the stupidest idea I've ever heard

and

Developing one would be far more expensive than any number of F35s we could operate.

and

You'd better start exercising so you would be able to get----- your whole head up your ass.

Y u mad

[Should Canada acquire nuclear weapons?]

How many countries besides Russia, America and China have that capability?

Those are the 3 countries we should worry about lol

[Should Canada acquire nuclear weapons?]

'Fraid not.

The official U.S. position (supported by Britain and others) maintains that the waters are a "strait for

international navigation." link

that just proves we need our own nukes

they aren't going to stick up for Canada or give us nukes

[Should Canada acquire nuclear weapons?]

Only if we succumb to the illusion that the only solution to the issues swirling around the Arctic is a military one.

Canada could just as easily be the one who wins the most by simply developing what they already have in the Arctic. As has been pointed out we can either use it or lose it and to me the military approach is a particularly defeatist ass backwards one that comes at who knows how much more cost.

Russia is years a head of us in developing the Arctic .. so are the Scandanavian countries

The liberal governments did not give a crap about the Arctic.. nor would the NDP