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You have only beclowned yourself naively trusting the IDF and other extremist Jewish organizations while claiming HRW and Amnesty International are biased. It appears you can’t bear to criticize Israel. You’ve exposed yourself as a liar, a (feeble but enthusiastic) apologist for the worst Israeli militarists. https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/press-release/2021/06/israeli-police-targeted-palestinians-with-discriminatory-arrests-torture-and-unlawful-force/

https://progressive.org/latest/human-shields-excuse-war-crimes-zunes-210617/ “Despite repeated claims by both Israel and the United States, there is absolutely no evidence that any of the more than 3,000 Palestinian civilians killed in Israeli military operations against Gaza since 2008 were a result of Hamas using human shields. Investigations of the most recent round of fighting are still ongoing. But detailed investigations following the 2008-2009 and 2014 conflicts by Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International, the United Nations Human Rights Council, and others have failed to find a single documented case of any civilian deaths caused by Hamas using human shields. Not one.” If you are not an apologist for the Israelis let me give you an opportunity to criticize Israeli abuse of children, Zionist ethnic cleansing, Israeli discrimination, etc. Go right ahead.

We both know you are lying. You have been posting ridiculous desperate justifications for Israeli militarism and atrocities for several pages. If you weren’t so dumb I’d say they were paying you.

Why do you defend Israelis killing Palestinians? Why do you support Israeli use of Palestinian children as human shields and Israeli abuse of children? Do you think people will conclude you are sick in the head? https://www.cbsnews.com/news/un-report-accuses-israeli-forces-of-using-palestinian-children-as-human-shields-abusing-children-in-custody/ Do you believe that such behavior is acceptable? These aren't complex questions and you've been afraid to answer them all along. Why is that? Are you ashamed of your position? Do you feel the Palestinians are right, but you hate them or something? What possible reason could you have? You realize your refusal to address this just makes the Palestinians look like the good guys here.

The U.S. taxpayers have been forced to make enormous payments to Israel. https://www.counterpunch.org/2004/01/16/an-interview-with-benny-morris/ What do the American people get in return? Only dopes and traitors would support such welfare payments.

Zionist ethnic cleansing: https://www.counterpunch.org/2004/01/16/an-interview-with-benny-morris/ Ignorant apologists always ignore these facts.

Does the IDF pay you to justify their atrocities? I think not. You try hard but you don’t have the necessary mental skills. We’ve seen how you take the word of the IDF and other extremist Jewish sources who promise the atrocities are all the fault of the victims.

From the sites you linked to: “More than 4,360 unguided rockets and mortars were fired, Israel says, killing 13 people there. Some fell short, killing Palestinians in Gaza. At least 260 people were killed in Gaza during the 11 days of fighting.” “It based its conclusions on an investigation into Hamas rocket attacks that killed 12 civilians in Israel.” “In all, some 254 people were killed in Gaza, including at least 67 children and 39 women, according to the Gaza Health Ministry.” Even an intellectually challenged individual such as yourself can notice the difference. The Israelis have most of the military power, thanks to the U.S. taxpayer, so most of the victims are Palestinians. The Israelis deserve most of the criticism. Why do you waste your time serving as a lame apologist for Israeli child murderers?

Israeli bigots in action: https://imeu.org/article/discrimination-against-palestinian-citizens-of-israel Supporting Israel makes the U.S. look bad and what do we get in return? Smart conservatives are wary of Israel. Unfortunately there are some low IQ, thick skulled, low forehead, dense, simpleton, ignorant conservatives out there.

I’ll never understand why conservatives serve Israel so avidly even though Israel betrays the U.S. https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1994-12-28-mn-13774-story.html Are you guys dumb or are you traitors? Maybe just Israelis in disguise?

There’s no question the Israelis and their lobby pushed the U.S. into a war not in our interests. https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v28/n06/john-mearsheimer/the-israel-lobby And yet fools still apologize for Israeli apartheid and Israeli bombings.

I am pointing out the premises of your questions are wrong. Questioning your sources (like the IDF) is not the same as lying about human shields. Hamas is not initiating violence because the Israelis had earlier committed many violent acts. Now will you answer my questions or will you run away again?

I am guilty of quoting widely acclaimed prominent human rights organizations that some Israeli apologists on Wikipedia don’t like.

HRW and Amnesty International are very important human rights organizations. Maybe HRW coverage of the conflict in Kashmir is insufficient and maybe HRW is occasionally skeptical of people in uniform but what source do you feel is less biased and more valuable? Did you notice in the Wikipedia article HRW was also accused of rarely criticizing “human rights abuses by the United States and its allies”.

Why do you say the Palestinians initiate the violence? The Palestinians make feeble attacks on Israel which kill few Israelis, but these attacks can be thought of as retaliation against earlier Israeli attacks. https://ifamericansknew.org/stat/rockets.html Do you think the Algemeiner is anything close to a neutral source? Should we trust all non-neutral sources? https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2018/6/18/the-fallacy-of-israels-human-shields-claims-in-gaza/ https://www.trtworld.com/magazine/busting-the-myth-of-palestinian-human-shields-in-gaza-46645

Wow you did not understand the first link I posted at all. The genocidal Young Turks were strongly influenced by the prominent atheist thinker Comte. They hated religious folk. https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/modern-intellectual-history/article/abs/positivist-universalism-and-republicanism-of-the-young-turks/35DC3948EEA899AE046DBA3EB9BD9923 Hitchens was too busy enjoying second or third helpings to personally kill Muslims, but he was a powerful voice advocating war. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/christopher-hitchens-dead-iraq-war_n_1154152 Communists kill in the name of the largest atheist sect. Hatred of religious folks is central to Marxism. https://books.google.com/books/about/Storming_the_Heavens.html?id=nC2LSv5QNYkC

The non-Muslim population of Israel is one of the least religious groups on the planet. https://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/11-countries-with-highest-atheist-population-376433/?singlepage=1 And remember that includes Muslim Palestinians living in Israel, most of whom are religious. So you are defending non-religious individuals committing atrocities. For psychological reasons you can’t accept the evidence for Israeli brutality. I suggest you look at the facts. https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/06/04/israel-50-years-occupation-abuses https://theintercept.com/2022/08/10/israel-gaza-bombing-death-images/

Some scholars think: “the epistles of Paul contain creedal summaries of early Christian beliefs which possibly date as early as 35-40 C.E.” Website: https://carm.org/evidence-and-answers/an-analysis-of-the-pre-pauline-creed-in-1-corinthians-151-11/ Wow you are completely wrong, so many have been killed in the name of atheism! Atheists sometimes feel religious folk are inferior or backward and must be liquidated in the interest of progress. Many Communists have felt this way, the genocidal Young Turks felt this way, more recent atheists like C. Hitchens and S. Harris have felt this way too. https://www.salon.com/2021/06/05/how-the-new-atheists-merged-with-the-far-right-a-story-of-intellectual-grift-and-abject-surrender/ https://mondoweiss.net/2012/06/sam-harris-uncovered https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-59595952 https://www.history.com/news/joseph-stalin-religion-atheism-ussr You really should admit your error.

You have shown us you are a liar. You refuse to answer my questions. Do you admit that the Israelis discriminate against Palestinians? A yes or no would be great. Has the IDF been caught lying? Can you acknowledge that the Zionists raped and massacred Palestinians during Zionist ethnic cleansing? Have the Israelis killed far more than the Palestinians? Did the Israelis help push the U.S. into the Iraq war? What’s it like to be a lying apologist for mass murder? Check out this website: https://mondoweiss.net/2012/06/sam-harris-uncovered Quote: Consider the findings of human rights groups like Amnesty International’s investigation into the Gaza war of 2008: What about the assertion that Arabs take cover behind their own children? Amnesty finds that although Hamas rocketed Israeli towns during the war, that: The co-author of the influential Goldstone Report for the UN Human Rights Council, Desmond Travers, has said:

In what sense are the Israelis Jewish? Many have a tenuous genetic relationship to the ancient Hebrews. Even fewer are religious. Many are hostile to theism of any kind. Many hate Christians. And yet some Christians are stupid enough to back Israeli brutality.

Elements of the corporate media are a proven source of pro-Zionist pro-apartheid propaganda. Yet you believe them.

Israelis use human shields. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/un-report-accuses-israeli-forces-of-using-palestinian-children-as-human-shields-abusing-children-in-custody/

Wow the IDF blames their enemy. Hardly surprising. Do military bureaucrats sometimes lie to justify their brutality? You know the IDF lies as much as you do. https://www.haaretz.com/2011-01-09/ty-article/the-idf-uses-propaganda-like-an-authoritarian-regime/0000017f-eac3-dc91-a17f-fecfe0520000 https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/israeli-tv-admits-no-rockets-were-ever-fired-unrwa-schools-gaza-during-cast-lead Another question for you to ignore: Does Israel ever attack non-military targets? https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/07/15/israel/palestine-unlawful-israeli-airstrikes-kill-civilians “Israel’s rhetoric is all about precision attacks but attacks with no military target and many civilian deaths can hardly be considered precise,” said Sarah Leah Witson, Middle East director at Human Rights Watch. More questions which you can’t answer: Why do you feel the Muslims instigate the attacks against Israel? Didn’t the Zionists begin the conflict when they ethnically cleansed the Palestinians? Do you admit that the Israelis discriminate against Palestinians? A yes or no would be great. Can you acknowledge that the Zionists raped and massacred Palestinians during Zionist ethnic cleansing?

You wrote: “Generally violent conflict is instigated by the muslims. And usually in a fashion where retaliation will result in civillian casualties on purpose.” I’ve asked you to prove your statement and you have failed to do so. Please try to refrain from making bigoted dishonest statements on behalf of those dropping bombs on helpless civilians. Do you admit that the Israelis discriminate against Palestinians? A yes or no would be great. Check out this interview: https://www.counterpunch.org/2004/01/16/an-interview-with-benny-morris/ Can you acknowledge that the Zionists raped and massacred Palestinians during Zionist ethnic cleansing?

So you don’t have proof for your belief that Palestinians are responsible for Israeli bombing deaths. Do you acknowledge that Israel discriminates against Palestinians. https://mondoweiss.net/2015/06/database-discriminatory-israel/ Do you acknowledge that the Israelis engaged in ethnic cleansing? Which side does more killing? https://ifamericansknew.org/stat/rockets.html