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  4. Does B.C. 2020 look like Orwell's 1984?

    in Provincial Politics in Canada

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    Where did I say these effects aren't worthy of acknowledgement ?

    You do acknowledge the damage caused by government crackdown then? Can we agree these measures have done more damage than the virus?

    All governments do this. Are you saying that common practice excuses government oppression?

    Being cited often does not make a quote invalid. since you failed to answer the question here is some background for you.

    While Canadians struggle with government-imposed restrictions on their movements, their businesses and their employment, and face fines or even jail time for failing to quarantine properly, the Liberal government of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau continues to do its best to shield itself from parliamentary accountability during the pandemic.

     

    Rather than finding creative ways of allowing Parliament to function under the circumstances, the Liberals — aided and abetted by the NDP — have instead opted to suspend all regular House of Commons sittings until at least Sept. 21, thus keeping debate, scrutiny, and accountability severely limited.

    After five years in power, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has succeeded in normalizing corruption in Canadian politics. That was a key finding in a Global/Ipsos poll of 2,000 Canadian adults, taken Aug. 17-18 and released last week. Most Canadians surveyed — 56% — agreed, “The WE charity scandal shows that Prime Minister Trudeau and his government are corrupt

     

    It seems wrong that in a minority government, the opposition should be so sidelined and hobbled — even in a pandemic situation.

     

    After five years in power, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has succeeded in normalizing corruption in Canadian politics. That was a key finding in a Global/Ipsos poll of 2,000 Canadian adults, taken Aug. 17-18 and released last week. Most Canadians surveyed — 56% — agreed, “The WE charity scandal shows that Prime Minister Trudeau and his government are corrupt

     

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  5. Does B.C. 2020 look like Orwell's 1984?

    in Provincial Politics in Canada

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    27 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

    1. I concur.
    2. Is your point that it's not a problem or that it is ?  I can't tell.  
    3. This is ridiculous hyperbole.  I can't take you seriously when you try to equate a contemporary democratic government with Big Brother.  It's just shrill hysteria, whether or not you think that the response to Covid is out-of-scale.
     

    Hyperbole (exaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally.)

    I do think that covid is a problem. It doesn't seem that increased domestic abuse, increased drug overdose deaths,  withholing our children's education and the government spending multiple billions of dollars while deliberately crippling the economy is worthy of your acknowlegment, but it seems you think that all this is a ridiculous  exaggeration. I did mean for this to be taken literally and  there seems to me that there is an imbalance here.

    The government is legislating personal choices and using law enforcement to impose their will. This doesn't make you even a little bit nervous?

    Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. Which do you think is stronger, politicians desire for power or their fear of being corrupted?

  6. Does B.C. 2020 look like Orwell's 1984?

    in Provincial Politics in Canada

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    17 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

    What absolute rubbish.  As we are all to die eventually, all attempts to safeguard life can be seen as only postponing the inevitable. 

    Why bother with a law proscribing murder?  They are going to die anyway.

    Murder implies intent. Automobile accidents cause more deaths than the virus. If you drive a car you are just as guilty of murder as a teenager socializing with his friends, or a child attending school.

  7. Does B.C. 2020 look like Orwell's 1984?

    in Provincial Politics in Canada

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    2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

    I don't remember 1984 having the government prosecute people for germ-spreading raves.  This is called hyperbole, or exaggeration.   

    Every government in the world is taking drastic steps to mitigate the risks and over 9,000 are dead in Canada.  

     

    Small point, but covid is not a germ. "Every government in the world is taking drastic steps to mitigate the risks''', same as 1984. "9,000 are dead in Canada", that is about 3% of expected deaths taken over a full year this could be a 6 % increase in mortality rate. People think that the government actions are  meant to prevent deaths, they are not, the intent is to let people die tomorrow instead of today.

    Damage by virus 6% increase in death rate, damage by government actions, generational debt, loss of majority of small businesses, increase of domestic abuse, increased deaths by drug overdose, increase of mental health issues, separating families  through border closures compromised education of our children. On balance the government is doing more damage than the virus.

    In 1984 the government controlled the population by repression and intimidation. in B.C. 2020 the government has told people to stay home, and has criminalized the normal operation of restaurants and other small businesses,  shut down much of our live entertainment and professional sports, and run a campaign to shame people for social  interaction. The real cost is quality of life and personal freedom. Life is more than not dying, the cost is too high for the privilege of dying tomorrow.

    Government seeks power and control, doctors want to save us from harm, the media wants to tell a story and sell toothpaste. Terrorize the population and lock them up, and they all get what they want.

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