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2 hours ago, Saudi Monitor said:
Islam grants fundamental equality and liberates women from the exploitative unjust system of secular liberalism and capitalism.
“I do not waste the deed of any doer among you, be they male or female. The one of you is as the other” (Quran 3:195)
“And women shall have rights similar to the rights against them, according to what is equitable” (2:228)
A man asked the Prophet (saw): What do you say (command) about our wives? He replied: “Give them food what you have for yourself, and clothe them by which you clothe yourself, and do not beat them, and do not insult them.”
Never argue from a position of authority as most people do not care about anyones holy book. I care more about what people do.
I can provide nearly countless examples of women who were arrested after being raped in Islamic countries.
Women can't even drive in Saudi Arabia. Sounds like a bastion of freedom
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26 minutes ago, jacee said:
That isn't the law here.
Sidebar: It cracks me up that the extreme right in Canada, who consistently and vehemently opposed women's rights, same sex...
Answer my question please. Dont change the subject. Dont make false arguments and strawmen.
Please answer my question.
Sidebar: Please provide quotes of me opposing those things please. Otherwise admit here that I never said those slanderous things.
Thank you.
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Im not only posting to you. Just fyi.
So do you dispute my claims or not? If you do Ill provide sources proving my points. Since the burden is on me.
If you dispute my claims yet refuse to accept my sources proving my points then you are not being fair. And you only wish to hear your own bias and refuse to hear responable argument.
Do you wish to shut down all debate that disagrees with your points sir?
Thank you.
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6 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:
Squawk away. It's like me running around singing "imagine no possessions"... they're all interesting ideas but the law isn't going to change.
Not only is it illegal to refuse service based on discrimination, it's terrible business.
Isnt 'squawk away' trolling and against the rules?
So youre a mod breaking the forum rules?
'Is this the example a new member is to follow? Im new here so im curious.
Thank you.
Since when is it the concern of our government to ensure business run profitably?
Explain how people have a right to my time and labour please.
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34 minutes ago, jacee said:
It's a human rights issue.
I do support anyone's right to practice their religion as they choose, or freedom from religion, within the law.
I agree. So how are homosexuals right to live, the most important human right, less important the right of Muslims to practice Islam?
The Laws in Islamic Nations makes it a capital crime to put Homosexuals to death. This is a law of Islamic nations. Since you support the practice of Islam within the law. You support this law?
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@jacee why do support Islam and Islamic nations?
Youre a proud leftist from what I understand. If Im wrong please correct me.
Homosexuality/Trans is punishable by death in Islamic nations.
Women are not treated equally in Islam. Basically have few rights within Islam.
Both of these are important to feminists and basically any western person. How do you yourself justify your support of Islam given these above facts.
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On 1/1/2019 at 3:29 PM, Michael Hardner said:
2. No, you can't. We follow the Civil Rights precedents set in the US, legally, for this. Business operating in the public realm can't discriminate against groups.
I dont care about gay people. The same as I don't care about straight people.
However I do believe that business owners do not have to bake a cake for anyone. No one has a right to my time. No one has a right to my labour. No one has a right to my money.
Otherwise your idea is theft. Theft of my time, labour and money.
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On 3/17/2019 at 10:10 AM, GostHacked said:
The other notion is that Hardner should denounce anyone who has been on Rebel Media.
Why should this be the case?
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Things I care about.
Spending
Taxes
Social justice
Crime
Immigration
Abortion
Outside of these things. The rest shouldnt matter to real conservatives.
Also a person may personally feel one way on a subject but doesnt want laws changed to support their own feelings.
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1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:
1. There are 3 flavours: those who try to be objective, those who claim to be objective but pursue an agenda, and those who are just propaganda and are not even truthful.
I think its hard for a media outlet to be straight up propaganda. Not even cbc does this. I would've said cnn. But they did run propaganda re. Covington School coverage. And are now being sued for some $250 million.
I would think most fit into the second option listed.
I prefer to just have the facts. Hard data. I don't need some poli sci grad telling me what they think as I dont care and am likely smarter than they are. Most pundits on tv can only see whats in front of them instead of the real game being played.
TV news and newspapers are mostly garbage for the sheep. Which is why these mediums are dying and almost dead.
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On 3/15/2019 at 7:53 PM, jacee said:
Far-right nationalists can no longer be thought of as a fringe group. They're leading one of the major terrorist movements of our time.
https://www.macleans.ca/opinion/new-zealand-mosque-shootings-far-right-extremism/
6 people killed in Quebec.
Now 49 killed in New Zealand.
If the far right terrorists want to go fight ISIS, they are free to do so. Murdering innocent people praying in a mosque is a coward's act.
And all of these violent white supremacists are free to kill where and when they choose BECAUSE THE POLICE AREN'T WATCHING THEM!
And in Canada, it’s not clear how seriously police and intelligence agencies take the threat of far-right extremism.
https://globalnews.ca/news/4188139/far-right-extremely-small-csis/
Get your shit together RCMP & CSIS!
6 in Canada. Ok. Why is not enough being done in Toronto and Winnipeg about murders in those cities?
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6 minutes ago, Saudi Monitor said:
I agree with you, and to remind you, vast majority of muslims want peaceful and mutually beneficial co-existence . However handful of crazy "people" people should not let all of us down.
The great myth. Its not just a handful though. Is it? Its millions of Muslims.
Pew research poll
1.8 Billion Muslims worldwide.
% of muslims who have a favourable view of ISIS?
Im counting ' I dont know' as positive. If you dont know if isis is bad you support them.
Pakistan alone 71% of the population supports ISIS.
200 MILLION in Pakistan means
142,000,000 Pakistanis support ISIS. Thats one country.
IM on my phone. Ill make a better post later.
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1 hour ago, jacee said:
All funding for terrorism is directed at 'Islamic' radicals
But police don't prevent white supremacist terrorist attacks because they don't look for white supremacists. They only look for 'Islamic' terrorists.
Do you have some paper that shows all funding going to hunt Islamic radicals and that white terrorists are ignored?
I remember the 80s and 90s when defeating skinheads and other white national groups was very important. Heritage Front snd Western Guard cone to mind. I havent heard of any groups like this in a while.
Do you have proof that white nat groups are a big problem like the Islamic groups? One incident doesnt tell me we have a huge problem on our hands. Islamic groups have murdered thousands in the last few years and the left still refuses to admit Islamic groups are an issue. So I guess unless white groups kill millions, they arent a problem?
When do groups become a problem? At what murder count?
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Ok. Cool. I appreciate the response. I dont disagree with you entirely btw.
I dont read Rebel at all. Im still on their mailing list so I see the headlines. Sometimes they have a point. Other times less so.
Id much prefer it if news outlets wete honest about their bias. Instead of purporting to be giving neutral coverage.
Also, i firmly agree with you on all humans being biased. It's incredible hard to be completely unbiased in coverage.
I look forward to more exchanges with you. Thank you for well thought out replies.
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1 hour ago, jacee said:
How many victims of 'Islamic' terror attacks were Muslims?
Id appreciate an answer to my post first please. Then we can move the conversation along and address some of your concerns.
Thank you.
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2 hours ago, eyeball said:
No, its because violence is a completely natural reaction to the decades of
Exactly. You just proved my point Eyeball. Thank you.
Muslims are part of a victim group according to the leftist victim flow chart heirarchy.
White people can never be victimized according to the social justice programming.
I appreciate your honesty. Seriously.
Thank you.
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11 hours ago, bcsapper said:
No antidote for you...
Antidote for what my sir?
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11 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:
Who has killed more in Canada - Muslim terrorists or home-grown hate killers
Is it because Muslims are part of the accepted victim class and whites are not?
Is that why people excuse the violence of Muslims?
According to the heirarchy people lower can only be victimized by groups higher.
Eventhough whites are only 20% or so of the worlds population.
Social Justice, which is being applied all over this forum by posters goes like this. Your action may or may not be punished according to what we think your identifiable group deserves. That is racism. That is evil.
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20 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:
I don't think it works that way. It has to be clear to the person that it's unwanted.
Thats the issue i have with vagueness sir.
Its getting to the point that even asking a girl for a kiss can be viewed as sexual harrassment. This is whats happening on college campuses now. Its insane.
1 in 4 women are raped at college? Give me a break. Its due to the overly broad sex assault standards.
Im on my phine. Once im on my laptop. Ill post some sources for us to look at.
My apologies for not providing them yet.
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28 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:
1. "In other words you see no media bias whatsoever."
2. I should have answered "what are you talking about ?". I made no comment on media bias - I went back and it wasn't even being discussed.
3. The point came from out of nowhere. I don't recall seeing media coverage of him, ie. the news.
You're welcome ?
Ok. I'll break it down below. Sorry.
You stopped supporting or following or watching P after he appeared on Rebel. Due to a journalistic bias perceived by you.
So since youre so seemingly against media bias. I want to know if you feel other media outlets in Canada are biased.
And basically do you continue to support these outlets by consuming their content?
Thats what I was getting at in the earlier post of mine.
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Dude.
The left says just about anything that opposes their tslking points is hate speech and racist.
Go to any University for confirmation.
Pro Israel? Hate monger and racist.
Pro Life? Against Women.
Want immigration controls? Racist.
Anti transgender labels differing from biology? Transphobic and homophobe.
Concerned about Islam? Islamophobic.
These terms are just clubs to use as a cudgel to shit down debate. They use these terms when you disagree with them. Usually the left lacks facts.
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7 minutes ago, jacee said:
You have much to learn about our system of government, and the checks and balances on power that are intended to sustain democracy and avoid fascism.
Maybe check into other systems too, and then design your own.
It is the left who are fans of fascism. The left wants to compel the government to enforce laws at the end of a gun or baton. I'd call that fascism.
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4 minutes ago, jacee said:
I'm not your googler.
Do your own research.
But Muslims are a qualified victim class right? White people are not. According to the left wing victim flow chart.
I was editing the post when you posted this terse reply.
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16 minutes ago, jacee said:
Far-right nationalists can no longer be thought of as a fringe group. They're leading one of the major terrorist movements of our time.
https://www.macleans.ca/opinion/new-zealand-mosque-shootings-far-right-extremism/
6 people killed in Quebec.
Now 49 killed in New Zealand.
If the far right terrorists want to go fight ISIS, they are free to do so. Murdering innocent people praying in a mosque is a coward's act.
And all of these violent white supremacists are free to kill where and when they choose BECAUSE THE POLICE AREN'T WATCHING THEM!
And in Canada, it’s not clear how seriously police and intelligence agencies take the threat of far-right extremism.
https://globalnews.ca/news/4188139/far-right-extremely-small-csis/
Get your shit together RCMP & CSIS!
How many has Islamic terrorists killed?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks
I'll help you. It's a wiki. Not imperical but good enough to say more than 50.
Thousands in listed terror attacks, thousands injured. Countless islamic murders as well. But Muslims are a victim class right and white people are not according the left wing victim flow chart. Right?
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Time to take on far-right terrorists
in Federal Politics in Canada
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You didnt say 'Canadian' law in your original posted response.
So I ask you again. Do you support those laws in Islamic states?