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15 hours ago, taxme said:
Hello liberal. It is not the average Joe and Mary six pack white people who are/were doing all of this so called raping and pillaging of the earth or starting wars or were involved in the slave trade business then and now. It has always been just a few white, black and Jews and corporate zionist bankster elites who are doing all of that today and who were involved with what happened in the past. Stop trying to blame the average white guy/gal who goes to work every day just to try and make ends meet and are being forced to live under those scum mentioned above. It is not the ordinary white guy/gal who has gone out there and started wars, pillaged the earth or got involved in the slave trade. The enemy you need to expose are the ones mentioned above and stop blaming the ordinary white person. Wake up and expose the real criminals and not the innocent ones.
So, are you white? You did not answer in my last post? Why or what are you afraid of? Just asking.
The average white benefits from this, when half the white population is on stolen land, and almost all whites benefit from stolen slave labor.
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On 7/2/2018 at 1:15 AM, loveistheonlyway said:
30-50 years? Dear God, can we shorten that? I think I'd be dead before that happens.
Hey, I've been talking to some guys on this other site and they say that it's only a minority that hates them, is that true? What good response should I give them? Also this bcsapper says that he hopes that, that never happens. Can you talk to him please and make him realize the truth?
Most whites are pro-trump, simply because he displays a racist attitude, the rest don't matter.
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On 7/1/2018 at 10:47 AM, turningrite said:
The reference to Hillary Clinton is weak. Prior to the 1980s or perhaps the 1990s the ideological delineation between Republicans and Democrats was not the same as today. The Republican Party was the party of Lincoln and for most of its modern history, until recently, was relatively progressive by the standards of the day. The Democratic Party, on the other hand, was often resistant to civil rights, particularly in the Southern states, where the "Solid South" constituted a significant socially conservative voting bloc for it into the 1960s. When Hillary Clinton was younger, today's "red state" South was conservatively "blue" in its political affiliation. My mother, who was born and raised in the North, was a registered Republican voter prior to moving to Canada at the beginning of the 1950s. Until that time, and for a few decades thereafter, the generally moderate Republican Party was far different from the often reactionary and hyperpartisan institution that's recently emerged. It might be more accurate to say that the Republican Party moved away from people like Hillary Clinton rather than they left it. Oh, and Hillary married a Democrat, so she had further incentive to switch.
Actually you strengthen my point, Hilary worked on Barry Goldwater's campaign who promised to overturn civil rights laws and restore segregation in the 60s. Most people become more liberal as they get older and wiser, she started off as a strict segregationist in favour of goldwater.
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On 7/1/2018 at 4:37 PM, taxme said:
Why don't you just be honest here and admit that you hate white people. No matter how I much I have showed you that non-whites were just as bad and inhuman to their own or other people you walk right back to blaming white people again as the real problem. If you are white why do you want to attack and mock and try to make yourself look bad. Leave that for non-whites to do. Like I have said many times, white people are their own worse enemy. BTW, are you white? Just asking if you dare?
We live under a system of global white supremacy, whites are in charge of running the whole world into the ground.
On 7/1/2018 at 4:37 PM, taxme said:PS: Apparently in some Arab and African countries slavery still goes on to this very day. But yet all you seem to want to do and cannot seem to get away from is constantly want to harp on how white people were ONCE slave owners. We are not slave owners anymore. Get with the times will you, liberal. If you want to go after slave owners than go after those Arab and African slave owners of today. I doubt it that you would ever do that. You probably fear being called a racist so it is much easier to attack white people as slave owners because you know that you will have the back of the left wing liberal media in Canada, right?
Of course it does, the largest number of slaves in Africa are the 200,000 African children enslaved by the French white chocolate companies on cocoa plantations.
On 7/1/2018 at 4:37 PM, taxme said:White people used the earth for their needs to live and survive on. There are plenty of nonwhite people from all over the world who are raping the earth for their own use to live and survive on. So, what's your point here? Maybe you should think before you speak. It does work well you know to do so.
Whites are number 1 in planet raping, looking at all the top polluters per capita, WHITE!
On 7/1/2018 at 4:37 PM, taxme said:It sure looks like Africans and Arabs invented slavery. The white people were no more or no less as brutal or inhumane to their slaves than African or Arab slave owners were to their people. What? Do you think that African and Arab slave owners took their slaves out to dinner every night and read them stories before bed time?
To be fair, the Africans did not have chattel slavery but the Arabs were brutal, but the Arabs never genocided slaves like whites did. Also how does bad arab behavior justify evil white behaviour?
On 7/1/2018 at 4:37 PM, taxme said:What more do you want white people to do for what they have done? We already kiss their butts and have tried to make up for their past white sins but all we still get today is more reminding and constantly attacked for our past sins by those same people and you every day. Enough already. You already have made this white man start to get angry over this constant blaming me for what others did centuries ago. Are you trying to ignore the fact as to what is happening to white people in South Africa where women are being raped and hundreds of white South African farmers have and still are being murdered by the black South Africans? Their white lands are being stolen by the communist black government.
Pay back the indians, africans who you stole land from and enslaved. White people in SA set themselves up for that for centuries of murdering, looting, and killing natives, the locals know them best, they are probably getting what they deserve. I seen two white guys in SA kidnap a native throw him in a coffin then slap a rattle snake and toss it into the coffin and bury the man alive. I use to live beside a white south africa who use to brag to me about all the locals and natives he use to kill, maybe they really do deserve what they are getting.
On 7/1/2018 at 4:37 PM, taxme said:Africans and Arabs are still fighting to keep slavery alive in some of their countries. I never see or hear from our politicians or the left wing lying liberal media in Canada ever show any global opposition to what is still going on today. Why don't you try and expose this more?
I believe it was on CNN but of course the whites who invaded libya for its oil won't use those same powers to stop slavery, so it shows that whites are willing to murder non-whites for money but not to even get non-whites freedom from slavery.
On 7/1/2018 at 4:37 PM, taxme said:In those days an education was not the norm or all that necessary to have but neither was it in non-white countries either. it's always been that way that the elite never ventured beyond their homes. And that happens in all countries black or white to this day as in the past. Hello. In those days it was dangerous for anyone to go off and search for new land to visit. You are being a racist here because you constantly want to try and promote hatred and maybe even violence towards white people. As we already know thanks to your not so bright wisdom here that whites were not all acting like angels in the past but neither were non-white leaders like Genghis Khan who marched across many countries and enslaving and murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent people and did commit genocide of other people in his conquest for world domination. It's time for you to wake the hell up and try and get the other side of the story for a change and quit with the hatred that you appear to have against white people. White people have done plenty of good and great things for world kind but people like yourself appear to want to look for the bad things only about what white people have done in the past and never the good. Enough already of your racism.
Who did Genghis Khan genocide?
White people have done more bad than good to most people, including other white people, look at czech and ukraine and food apartheid?
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18 hours ago, betsy said:
I think you got that the other way around. Young ones tend to be liberals - but as they age, they end up becoming conservatives.
Nope, this was debunked by studies, people who are conservatives end up being liberals because they see when cons take power they are complete hypocrites. Most of the old liberals are like Hilarly Clinton, started out as conservative republicans, saw all the hypocrisy and jumped ship.
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15 hours ago, taxme said:
Indeed, there were many people involved in the slave trade but all the left wing liberal media like to talk about is the white involvment in the slave trade business. 1. The native Indians could not bring in foreign firms and use their resources to get rich because the native Indians at the time did not even know that white people existed until the white man showed up. Duh.
True, but in North America it was a white dominated and run thing, other than the jews I'd suppose. The whites kept Africans in slavery for so many centuries after they had left the old world, it is obvious why whites are thought of as the slavers. The natives would not have been rich at that time in the sense with think of, but then again the Aztec's sure did have a lot more gold than the whites. So even if they didn't know somethings the whites knew, they would have had enough gold to eventually modernize their country, no different than what the arabs did in the 1990s-2000s. Poor places with widespread illiteracy but resource rich so could bring in foreign firms to mine their resources and got rich off of royalties.
15 hours ago, taxme said:2. Well, we are here now so live with it. Maybe if you don't like it here now maybe it is you who should leave? At least white people did something with the place that has benefited you, eh? The native Indians can't go back to anywhere because they were born here. They were not immigrants just like me. We both were born here.
White people only raped the earth.
15 hours ago, taxme said:3. Indeed, there has been many different races of people of different backgrounds that were involved in the slave trade business. But all I ever hear from the left wing anti-white liberal media is that slavery was the creation of white people. And because of it many white people now go around an have been made to feel guilty over what other white people did in the past. White people should not feel guilty for what others did in the past. They had nothing to do with it. Should white people fell guilty over what Stalin did to his people and his trying to dump communism on the world? It is only people like yourself who are always out there trying to make white people feel guilty about past white sins. Enough already. I am pretty sure that native Indians and other races of people had their own versions of Stalin. Whites were the cruelest my azz. What the Muslims do to other non-Muslims and even their own is dam cruel. White people don't go around chopping heads off or throwing gays off of roofs blindfolded. You better start to think before you speak. Curious? Are you white? Just asking so I know as to where and to whom I am dealing with here. Over to you.
I'm not sure who created slavery, but whites were among the most brutal in their practice of it. Also whites practiced it for a long time and were running the institution in the Americas and that is where we are. White people should feel guilty about slavery and colonialism and land theft because it was wrong and they continue to benefit off of it today. Whites do that back then and they use to do it. Are you forgetting the white muslims in yugoslavia?
15 hours ago, taxme said:4. What the hell are you talking about? Whites indeed had plenty to do with stopping slavery. Hello or goodbye.
No, they didn't. Whites fought very hard to maintain slavery in the face of global opposition. Let us not forget that France, England and Spain all invaded Haiti after the late 1700s to try to REINSTITUTE slavery after it had been abolished!
15 hours ago, taxme said:5. It was with white brains, intelligence, ingenuity, creativity, artistic and generally very good and hard workers that have made North America wealthy. Indians didn't even have or use money to do business with. And what the hell did Indians do that you would consider to be greater than what white men/women have done to North America anyway? The white people did not come to North America to loot because at the time they did not know as to what there was too loot. They were just looking for a new land to discover to live and build on and which made Indian lives more civilized and made better for them all. Sure white people did bad things but white people are not the exception to doing things bad. Why don't you tell us about some of the bad things non-whites have done to their own people and the world? Go ahead make your day.
It was not white brains or intelligence, over 90% of the whites coming here were illiterates, the smart and rich whites stayed in Europe because the Americas was a dangerous, lawless, violent, disease ridden uncouth place by European standards back then. Indians had gold, ie Aztecs. Aztec pyramids are pretty good, living in peace and harmony. Not mass murdering and genocide people from other continent. Not being racist. Not enslaving and murdering hundreds of millions of people across 3 continents.
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21 hours ago, loveistheonlyway said:
So I keep asking the world if America is evil, why doesn't the world destroy it but so many keep saying that's not necessary because they are destroying themselves anyways...... but when? It's not going to take too long right?
Trump is doing a very good job, hopefully he gets a 3rd term, China has already surpassed USA economically under Trump and diplomatically USA allies are turning to China. Probably in 30-50 years.
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Lol, they have the conservative party, loyal lapdogs.
If they invaded, obviously we'd fight back, we'd lose. The EU and world would condemn USA and China would become the global superpower as the USA gets completely isolated politically, diplomatically and economically. Also they'd then add on a bunch of "states" aka provinces, who are left wing and liberal marked by massive ongoing riots. The costs would be terribly high and Canada has a high rate of gun ownership.
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1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said:
I would like to point out to no one in particular that debate and discussion advances the public dialogue and presents closure on bad arguments as well as challenging incomplete ones. If you come to the site to discuss immigration then you do not have all the answers, no matter who you are. Please see the debate as a collaborative effort and a kind of non-zero-sum-game if you like.
There is no winning or losing in this, unless you refuse to play properly.
The "good" thing about times like these is that it allows both sides to examine its fundamentals and explore new ideas, especially with regards to immigration, trade and the culmination of such policies into a future vision.
Of course, I provided multiple sources, there are special loans for immigrants, are you denying this?
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2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:
I haven't noticed you much as a poster, and now I can see that your posts come along with the wave of new posters who are addicted to posting utter horseshit and refusing to post cites. This is where we are with politics now, and the tactic was taken from the strident Marxists of the 60s and 70s and picked up by Fox News to be used in this 'great immigration debate'.
Good luck with your echo chamber.There you go with name calling, I provided sources above and I did source the study I read. Immigrants start businesses more because they have special no interest loans. PERIOD.
"The government implemented the Assisted Passage Loan Scheme to help immigrants from Europe who could not pay their own transportation. Loans were to be repaid over the two years following landing. A version of this loan scheme continues to this day and is used by resettled refugees."
http://ccrweb.ca/sites/ccrweb.ca/files/static-files/canadarefugeeshistory3.htm
I'm sure if locals had access to free loans, we'd do much better as a group.
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1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:
Cite ?
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Wilson/Fish
The Wilson-Fish (WF) program is an alternative to traditional state administered refugee resettlement programs for providing assistance (cash and medical) and social services to refugees."
So much for the lie that the don't get free stuff.
"The purpose of the Wilson/Fish Alternative Program is to provide integrated services and cash assistance to increase refugees (and other Office of Refugee Resettlement populations) prospects for early employment and self-sufficiency. The program also aims to reduce their level of welfare dependence and promote coordination among voluntary resettlement agencies and services providers."
In order to qualify for this benefit program, you must be a refugee who was granted asylum and is now a U.S. citizen. You must also be of Amerasian, Cuban, or Haitian heritage, or a victim of trafficking.
That is the real reason Amerasians are doing so well..
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3 minutes ago, paxrom said:
Its actually true. Its a lot easier for them to get loan. Because they have no credit the government give them this ability.
Additionally, there was a study I read back in business school, where Chinese and Korean immigrants were explaining how all those trade deals are really just set up to help Korean Americans and Chinese American immigrants to make money. For instance, there was a case study where the Korean community leader in USA explained how they had the US government through political pressure give special economic favours for Korean products, which they got to in turn import as the producers in Korea are their relatives, friends, family, village members, or klan members etc. The study talked about how the Koreans used their political power to basically get all non-Korean wigs tariff highly and the Chinese ones banned altogether.
In the case of hispanics, the us government pays illegal immigrants to set up businesses in their home country. Imagine that, a citizen cannot get a loan, but an illegal can get a loan over a citizen and get paid loans to do so.
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49 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:
Cite ?
Facts.
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18 hours ago, taxme said:
1. You are really starting to become an exercise in futility. I am not a settler or an immigrant. I was born here and so that does not make me an immigrant, silly. Look up the word immigrant in the dictionary, silly. Our white Canadian buffoon leaders are a useless bunch of teats. By saying that we are a nation of immigrants is true but that can only be applied to the people who immigrate from other countries too Canada. I cannot be considered an immigrant one bit. We are not all immigrants. Got it now?
Quote2. How would Canada be much any richer if the white man/woman did not come to Canada? It would still be all bush and there would still be Indians killing other Indians.
Well what you would have is a pan Indian state with a low population. Like we see countries who were less developed historically like Germany, Thailand, etc making large gains. Even if the Indians didn't become a state of the art society, with their low population and high resources, they'd be able to bring in foreign firms and use that wealth to get rich. You know, like the saudis and emiratis and Kuwaitis and Qataris do. It didn't matter the illiteracy rate in UAE was over 70% a few decades ago, they had resources to sell and now live a fabulously rich lifestyle.
QuoteWell duh. We all should know that the population of Canada would not be as high as it is today if the white people did not float their way over here from Britain and Europe.
But all those resources and environmental rape that your ancestors did to this country actually gave you a homeland and a home to live and work and play in. If you want to play this Indian victim blame game on white people well maybe you should get the hell out of Canada and go back to where your ancestors came from. That should help save some resources and less raping of the environment. I am sure the native Indians will appreciate you leaving Canada. If you are lucky, maybe they will be at the airport to see you off. Goodbye.
Isn't it you white people who should go back to where they came from, not the Indian people who were here first?
Quote3. Why were blacks and Arabs abducting their own people and selling them off to the highest bidder? They started up the slavery business. Look silly, all races have and done lots of bad things to other people. Today none of what you said is happening today. But it would appear to me as though that you only want to point out the bad things that white people have done in the past but will not admit that other races of people were just as bad. The white man/woman have been paying plenty of reparations and tax dollars for years to make Indians and blacks happy and contented to try and make their lives better.
To my knowledge, white Africans and arabs and jews were running the African slave trade from top to bottom. Arabs were not enslaving other arabs but other non-arabs and non-muslims. Further we don't live in those other countries so its useless to argue about them, and most of those African /arab states no longer even exist as whites destroyed with subsequent colonization. Other races did bad, but not anywhere close to what whites have done. There is no Native Indian version of Hitler, or transatlantic slave trade. Face it, whites are the cruelest. Given that blacks pay more taxes than whites but don't get anything like Indians and whites, I don't see how that is possible.
QuoteWhites did stop slavery, What do you think all the fighting that was going on between the north and the south in the USA was all about? Eventually, the north won the battle and the blacks were freed from slavery. It was not the blacks that built up America, silly. It was the time and effort and money and the ingenuity of white people that really built up America. Do you honestly believe that blacks could have built a railroad from coast to coast or vehicles to drive on roads that were built by white people in vehicles? Even native Indians could ever come up with those ideas. America or Canada would not be where it is today if it were not for white people. Plain and simple. Live with it.
Whites did not stop slavery, they just couldn't sustain it any longer in the face of widespread opposition and rebellions from African Americans armed and fighting off whites. The north fought the south because they feared the fighting would get out of control, spread north and overrun the north. As such, the north then rounded up african americans en masse and mass executed/genocided them after winning the civil war. aka "punchbowls". Whites did not hae ingenuity, that is why they bought slaves. Whites in America didn't even have money either, that is why they had to steal land and kidnap slaves, they couldn't pay for it, Europe dumped its rejects onto the new world. Whites didn't build roads, or railroads,or vehicles, it was all done by african americans. In fact, one of the main arguments from organized labour (white workers) back then was that slavepower was "stealing their jobs".
Actually America and Canada would be more wealthy without white people. Britain, France, Spain and Netherlands looted the wealth of North America for centuries to the point that even the whites here demanded independence from the looting and corruption of white europeans.
Quote4. What case is before the courts? Over.
NCAA, arguing student athletes should not be paid because they are essentially slaves.
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18 hours ago, turningrite said:
I think immigration mainly works well for the U.S., primarily because immigrants have to work and contribute to the economy in order to survive. Unlike Canada, where generous social programs, including publicly funded health care, are available almost immediately to immigrants, this is not the case south of the border. I recently read an article estimating net tax proceeds paid by recent immigrants into tax coffers in the U.S. exceed $60 billion (U.S.) annually. In Canada, on the other hand, it's estimated that recent immigrants constitute a net drain tax drain exceeding $30 billion (CDN) annually. That being said, I think all countries must have secure borders. It's a primary hallmark of effective sovereignty. In the U.S. I think a bigger issue than in Canada (although we're getting there) is the problem of uncontrolled migration and I believe concern about this problem is valid.
Do you even know about the American immigration system which not only gives immigrants free healthcare, education, housing, social grants, funding and business loans but forces the banks to have special immigrant loans with no interest? My ex use to work in a bank in New York and she was telling me how they are required to give X billions in loans to immigrants or else face federal government clampdown.
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17 hours ago, taxme said:
Multiculturalism is genocide towards the host people of any country that implements such stupid socialist/communist programs and agendas such as multiculturalism and diversity. I hate it when I here some one say that I am German, Chinese, African or Sikh who prefer to point out that they are something Canadian rather than just say I am Canadian. Canada does not encourage new immigrants to assimilate but rather prefers to help them not to assimilate and help them to keep their cultures and religions and traditions at the hosts Canadian expense.
And that is Canadian culture! It is you who don't understand Canada.
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17 hours ago, betsy said:
Generation Z comes after the millenials. They're the ones born from 1995. They tend to be more fiscally and socially conservative!
Trump's policies must be resonating with them. It'll be interesting to see how they'll vote in the next election.
Lol, they will learn, most of the left wingers started out on the right wing. Also how many people born after 95 could vote in a 2016 election? You'd have just 3 years, 21, 20, 19, and SOME 18 y/os depending on if they registered to vote. You also have to factor in that Clinton was extremely unpopular with the young people and Sanders was popular but DWS rigged the democrat primary against bernie causing many young to boycott hilary. Plus once Trump's court strips away their abortion rights, they'll turn liberal real fast.
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3 minutes ago, paxrom said:
Interesting perspective. I will say that most Americans want to have a secured border. Where they divide is what to do with the ones already here. Trump is deporting those with criminal background (minor drug offenses too).
Its not about most Americans, it is determined by most donors. And most donors either want cheap immigrant desperate labor who can be exploited and won't sue or whine about their rights or don't even know them to destroy American labor or they are liberal and just want more left wing inclined voters coming from left wing socialist latin american nations. None of that goes with a secured border. Do you understand that most of the farms in the southwest from Calfornia to Texas plus Florida cannot run without illegal labor or raising wages to $20-25 an hour? Hence despite hating brown people, they want them in the country to work for $7 an hour. When you add on the fact that most illegals bring their 5 kids to help pick fruit, the average illegal does the work of at least 3 hard working americans for a fraction of the price.
Also what does it take to secure the border? 1. Border wall from sea to sea. 2. Secure the homelands where the illegals are coming from. 3. Stopping foreign intervention which destabilizes the home nations. The reality is that Americans have conflicting priorities. You don't get a border crisis without Iran-contra. You don't get a border crisis, without American government destabilizing latin America. However, most Americans favor the foreign interventionist wars and cia missions to harm governments they don't like. You cannot destabilize Haiti, Cuba, and Mexican government, then "secure the border". Securing the border starts there.
There really is no divide. The American far left has conceded the point on illegals as the leadership is from California and has forced them too, it wasn't always that way though. Right now, it is just the far right trying to stop the illegals. The center right cannot legalize them, because if the become legal they walk off the farms and compete with regular Americans for better paying jobs and they demand $20 an hour. The left would love to legalize them but probably know they cannot win on that platform. Almost all illegals have criminal backgrounds as crossing the border outside a port of entry is illegal and overstaying your visa is illegal and lying about your purpose to the border FEDERAL AGENTS is a SERIOUS crime (most illegals actually claim to be visiting a family member or cross border shopping then don't go back). Not to mention that once they are here, the illegals then typically use a fake id to get a job, a fake or stole ssn, a fake or stole drivers license and drive without insurance. Illegals basically commit a series of ongoing crimes just to be present in the nation.
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17 hours ago, paxrom said:
As you are all aware immigration is currently a hot subject and can be considered political poison for those in office.
This issue stems back many generations since immigrants first settled here from Europe and every where else since.
Each wave of immigrants left a distinct mark on American society and way of life. Some for better some for worse, but mostly better.
By in large, immigrants are just seeking a better opportunity, the pursuit of life, liberty and happiness. The American dream. This has been true for every wave of immigrants coming here. Unless of course you're a slave.
I would like to hear what are your thoughts on immigration, specifically, who, how and where.
Trump is right on immigration, seal up the border and just say sorry, you cannot come here, you may apply for asylum in Mexico or some other nation. These are mostly economic migrants or not legitimate refugees and asylum seekers. I saw a news story where a woman said she just wanted a good education for her son. Her Daca son graduated university, but she didn't leave the country after they got the education. So they just want money. And America cannot absorb all of latin America who wants to move into USA.
Sadly, there is an unholy alliance between the center left and center right. The center left views the central americans as future voters. The center right and far right view them as cheap labor without rights. Sadly, neither sad actually cares about these people, because if they did they'd stop them from immigrating and stabilize their home nations rather than just letting them all run here.
There is not one good argument in favor of illegal immigration. They claim they are fleeing MS13, but MS13 started in America! Further MS13 is killing many latin Americans here in America.
They claim they are legitimately persecuted in their homeland, but if they are, why didn't they go to costa rica or panama or Argentina or brazil or Mexico for asylum? See they just want to get into an country where the pay is higher! Further if the gangs are targeting everyone, that doesn't make everyone a refugee, unless it is on a prohibited ground (Race, gender, culture,etc).
My only complaint was Trump backed down on separating children, he should have double downed and not backed down.
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On 7/27/2011 at 9:29 AM, kimmy said:
The idea of homogenous Muslim neighborhoods isn't quite the "mosaic" we multicultural-loving Canadians were sold on, is it?
I don't think homogenous ethnic enclaves in our cities is a good idea. People become Canadianized by mixing amongst Canadians.
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Actually that is exactly what a mosaic is.
People become Canadian by staying in their own ethnic group in the Mosaic.
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On 6/27/2018 at 4:11 PM, turningrite said:
White people in North America may in some cases describe their ancestors who moved here centuries ago as settlers, particularly if those ancestors farmed upon arriving. The most common designation for descendants who arrived over the past century and even for many who arrived well before that is "immigrant." My mother arrived in Canada in the early 1950s as a landed immigrant and never referred to herself as a settler. Beyond referring to ancestors who arrived long ago, the term is seldom if ever used by contemporary Canadians to describe themselves - except perhaps by left "progressives" who'd rather defer to Indigenous sensibilities and ideology. Rather, when applied to contemporary Canadians, it's an arbitrarily assigned and quasi-racial designation that often appears intended to denigrate the legitimacy of the Canadian majority and the society it has established. Further, "Indian" land wasn't technically "stolen" because there was no legal structure in place at the time to recognize or enforce ownership rights. Interestingly, many Indigenous activists today assert that they don't even recognize the concept of property rights. In the absence of a legally regulated property regime, the British asserted sovereignty over once Indigenous-occupied lands. It may not have been fair, but history has seldom been fair. Tribal groups throughout history have in every part of the world and among all races simply displaced other tribal groups. And people have been enslaved throughout history by people of many races. History isn't a simple binary contrast between bad Europeans and victimized others. Perhaps you might read up on these things.
History is simple. Bad white man murder, rape, stoleand killed, against the good brown man. White racist of today want to defend said, murder, rape and killing.
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On 6/27/2018 at 3:58 PM, taxme said:
The word settlers was a word used at the time when Canada was being settled. White people do not use that word today because they are not settlers anymore. I am white and I was born here so I am not a settler. I am Canadian born and I am not an immigrant. An immigrant is someone who immigrates to another country. I did not. I guess that I am safe to call myself a native Indian also now.
It is white people's status as immigrants which makes them settlers, as the white leader always say "we are a nation of immigrants" "We are all immigrants".
On 6/27/2018 at 3:58 PM, taxme said:Where would North America be today if it were not for those white "settlers" who came to NA and settled and did something with the place. Do you honestly believe that today the native Indian population want to go back to the old Indian ways and days before the white man/woman came along? I doubt that very much. They have it a lot better because of old whitey today and they dam well know it too.
It would probably be much much much richer. It would be a country with a small population, lots of natural resources without all the environmental rape. Why do they have to go back to anything, it is the whites who came here?
On 6/27/2018 at 3:58 PM, taxme said:Black slavery still goes on in some Arab and African countries today. And all of those past slave owners were black and Arab and were all too willing to abduct and black people and sell them off to the highest bidder. So, don't make it sound like black slavery was a white man's creation. Yes, it was wrong for white people to get involved in the slavery business but it was the white man who eventually stopped the slave trade into America and eventually give the blacks their freedom. But do you see thousands of blacks leaving America for an African country today? Nope, because they know that they have it better living in a white country rather than if they lived in an African country. This constant bashing and trying to constantly remind white people by people like you needs to stop. The slave days are over. Accept and live with it. To continue on with this racism towards white people is as far as I am concerned promoting hatred and maybe even violence towards white people. Give it up.
Why were good white people going to Arab and African nations to buy slaves? And if whites are so good why did they not only keep the slaves enslaved but beat, rape, murder, torture and practice discrimination for hundreds of years in all areas of society against them?
Whites did not stop slavery in the Americas and blacks in Americas largely freed themselves from slavery, most whites supported slavery and fought hardto maintain it.
Already tried, Marcus Garvey, and he was arrested by the American government on the requests of the French ambassador because the French and British viewed it as a threat to have millions of African Americans with recent military training and development experience to return to the continent and fight them and insisted the US government stop them from leaving.
Further many African Americans rightly point out why should they be the ones to leave when they built America, the built the white house, the congress, the supreme court and the capitol, they built UVA and Georgetown and Americas most prestigious institutions.
Slave days are not over because the universities and prisons are trying to defend slavery in a case before the appellate court right now.
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On 6/26/2018 at 10:22 AM, turningrite said:
I've noticed an increasing tendency in mainstream media to adopt the term "settler" in reference both to multi-generational (i.e. Caucasian or white) Canadians as well as to mainstream Canadian society (i.e. "settler society" or "settler culture"). Politicians and ex-politicians, too, have fallen into this odious negative identity trap. I consider the overly broad use of this term to be offensive and in some circumstances derogatory. If it's objectionable to refer to members of visible minorities as "immigrants," particularly when they're second generation or multi-generational, why on earth is it acceptable to characterize white Canadians, whose ancestors in some cases may have arrived in the country over the past few generations, as settlers? Isn't this a form of racial categorization and oversimplification? In many cases, it seems to me to amount to reductionist hypocrisy.
White people called themselves settlers for the longest of time. What, now they don't want to call themselves that anymore because people are holding the settlers accountable for stealing indian land and enslaving african people?
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Its a power grab, liberals just sneaking through a law saying that the government can now for you to take a drug test anytime, without cause, arbitrarily. This is the real reason they want to legalize drugs. They want to say everyone is high, so we got to forcibly drug test everyone with no proof.
Is the term "settler" appropriate?
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No.
We are all humans, it you who is playing identity politics with skin color.