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Justin Trudeau the Worst PM Since Pierre Trudeau?
tworivers replied to bush_cheney2004's topic in Federal Politics in Canada
Junior, well for those who can not see through his fake persona and terrible acting(public speaking)there is no hope for you and you are doomed to be star struck the rest of your life. If you have to mention Harper to defend him then you are doomed to be blind the rest of your life. If you think he makes a difference in the world then you are doomed to see rainbows and unicorns the rest of your life. Fact is that junior is just another liar politician but with good looks and pretty words who has no idea about how much harm he is doing to Canada and if you have to ask what harm there is no pointing out the obvious to you. This is not a game or about a model with uh terrible public speaking posture , but about what his reckless policies will do to Canada 20 years from now and what he is setting in motion will have very dire effects for us and in those 20 years we will become divided to the point of civil war or a major breakup of Canada but then the sunny ways crowd will never see that until it is to late. -
I will ask you to go back and reread history again as you seem to have missed a few centuries. Islam is a huge problem , like Sharia law or many of there beliefs that are way outdated from this world. I find the hypocrisy of Islam is like looking at the Spanish Inquisition except it is now 2016.
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http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/calgary/ten-x-nightclub-shooting-1.3397548#commentwrapper http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/vancouver-police-chief-constable-speaks-on-hate-motivated-pepper-spray-incident-1.3397228?__vfz=profile_comment%3D10131300002215#vf-4985700002270 As I was saying just a week ago , multiculturalism is a huge failure. This will only get worse unless the political correctness goes away and we can have an open conversation about the values , history and who we are in Canada. We are not the middle east or a Muslim country, Canada has been hijacked because of people wanting to look so kind in the eyes of the world and now the truth is so distorted that even mentioning another culture is forbidden and people here have had enough. If you want to come here 1. English and French are the languages...PERIOD. 2. Canada has a history and it should be compulsory for schools to teach that as it was not that long ago. 3. Equality is for everyone just not ethnic groups who use this to leverage their agenda here in this country. 4. Religion is not law here and never will be. I know there are more but this would be a good start. I have never seen tension like this here and if the bleeding hearts continue to bully others with the racist card this will only escalate and it will be made in Canada and I am sure when it happens it will be a surprise to the bleeding hearts when in reality they don't see what is right in front of them just like the invisible homeless now.
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So we have a group of Muslims beheading people , raping woman and telling us all they want most of us dead. 9/11 , Paris so on and so on . This threat is real boys and girls and people here in Canada will only wake up when many die . Then all of those who are saying this is not real , this is not all muslims , this is just sad but don't get angry with them will change there tune if someone they are very close to is killed in an attack. Just because you think it will not happen changes nothing and bad things do happen to good people and yes even Canadians. I have lived in many places in this world , not just visited for a month or 2 but lived there and I can only tell you that this is real and we should be a whole lot more protective of our own here . Now I can already hear the bull coming from a few about this is happening because of blah blah blah nice words but meaningless . I used to think we could all get along and live in harmony but that is not going to happen in my lifetime and it is easy to turn the other cheek when someone you don't know is killed by these murdering cowards.
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They were beheading and gutting each other long before anyone from here went over there and I see you are still into the conspiracy theory bull instead of actually seeing what is and has happened over the last 100 years....pity really. Oil in a word so if you think we are installing dictators and are looking for someone to blame ..look in the mirror or read and learn. To be honest which I know you righteous really hate , if it was not for growth in industry and money over here they would still be throwing rocks at each other and riding camels , that is not a racist statement but true as before the oil boom they were a stagnant culture.
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The sad fact is that nothing will happen with the refugees until something really horrible happens. I have been very fortunate in my life to be able to not just see places but live there for a year or so. I spent 11 years in the USA and had just flown out of New York that morning on my way to Alaska . The date was 9/11 . After that I worked overseas in Ukraine and then the UAE. now I have seen many things but what I remember most is how radical people were in the Arab countries and how we had to live in a compound because there were people (muslims) who wanted to kill us. Now the belief in those countries is not even close to what we perceive they are ,it is worse. Now most of those refugees coming here will not live our way , will not associate outside there denomination and will do little to help anyone outside there own group. You can say some story about how you heard it is untrue and how you seen a story on the news that that says they are just like us but they are not and there view of how the world will be is very very different from ours. I will say again that when people come here to live they will have to adopt our culture and history and our way of life , what they do at home is their business but outside that they should expect to have the same rights and freedoms the rest of us have with no one above anyone else and this is our biggest problem ....Multiculturalism is a total failure and a lie but we will have to learn that lesson the hard way because of all the people who read about sunny ways and nothing on the worlds history.
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Listen to what a lot of people are saying and yes most would consider that racist. As I said before , we need to sit down here in Canada and talk about what exactly we as a society will accept into this country . Multiculturalism is a failure and a dream . If people try to talk and the only thing others can say is "your racist" then we have even a bigger problem which will not go away and in a short time will become a gaping hole that will get to big to ignore and yes I am talking violence right here in our Canada. You can only push so far and then people will push back, the pushing back will depend on how honest and open the dialogue is .
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I never said I was a Conservative which I am not . It would seem you have jumped on the refugee band wagon I see . As for your comments on the homeless here is just disgusting while preaching peace and those poor refugees deserve to be here and we should spend billions on them . You would not happen to be a policy adviser to the Liberals now would you ? I find that people like you say one thing over and over which is " I am right and those who disagree are racist bigots ". Yes you disguise it but that is what it is. One day soon we will have to have an open conversation on Muslims and what we will allow in Canada because if we do not we will not like the results. Homeless here well I will not look for your caring words or donations which is alright as it shows how hollow most like you are yet there are many who try and help them without the spotlight or the PM selfies or the big dollars the refugees coming here are getting. I do not think wasting billions on anything is a good idea but to state that the billions created this is not a very enlightened statement especially coming from a country who relies on oil so heavily and if you do not understand this statement I suggest you go back and read. After reading and understanding all this.......welcome to the real world.
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So you did not answer the question I asked so I am guessing the homeless here are doomed and not an issue or important as the refugees because of policies there? If you feel so strongly about those refugees then donate all your worldly goods to them and live in a box , I am sure you will feel very good with yourself .
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I live next to many Muslims here in Surrey. Talk with most of them close to us. One thing is I never feel like I am close to them , we have a business which they do not use because they will stay within their community for most things meaning they buy from other Muslims. I lived north of 60 for many years close to the First Nations people in the Yukon and Alaska , I am proud of that and have more respect for the elders of those people than most around. The one question I get asked most of all by the Muslims here is if it is true that the Indians (their referral) practice Black Magic and worship the ground and sky. I asked where they heard such a thing and they say that is what they are taught here in their schools and from what they have seen. I called them idiots for talking out of both sides of their mouth's as they are the first ones to cry prejudice but strange how that prejudice can work both ways. Oh and they do not consider the First Nations people very intelligent FYI. Just wanted to mention this as I found it offensive but who do I get to see it stop.
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That does not change the facts I was talking about and good luck with that idea. Here is another one that needs to change in Canada , multiculturalism has failed so we need to adjust our thinking.
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Yesterday , like everyday , I gave some homeless folks food and some warm clothes. One of the homeless talked to me which is rare because most people usually ignore or call them lazy so they are scared for their safety. I asked her what happened that she and her son live on the street. Long story short they fell not through the crack in our system but the gaping hole that is there and they are all but forgotten. She is trying to work 2 minimum wage jobs and the 15 year old son delivers papers. Now here in Surrey BC we do not have the funding or the space for most poor and homeless people. There are no politicians here getting there picture taken with them and they are invisible , so my question is to all these folks here who want to help the refugees in other countries... When will we help our own people as we seem to be able to find billions for them to come here and what ignore the problem here we have had for many years ?
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Baseless opinions how quaint , I wrote what I have seen and heard and whether you believe me or not doesn't change the fact . I would suggest looking into this yourself and asking these questions but most are afraid to and find it easier to ridicule others . Being that I did not record thes conversations it is impossible to "prove " them to you and even if I could I do not think you would listen. Yes this is my opinion based on the many we have talked to and I am sorry that you feel threatened by it.
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If I have to explain the story to you then you have missed the point or you are in total denial about Muslims disliking others. There are many like them and I have talked with many so I would suggest you be direct and honest when you talk with any group . Problem is when you ask a question here in Canada lately that does not subscribe to the mainstream thinking you get branded a racist , called names and generally be put aside. I do not apologize for asking if immigrants here think they are Canadian or if they want to see this country more like they belive it should be. Sooner or later this will have to be answered and hopefully in a peaceful way which I doubt given the anger I see on either side here on these pages. I worked in the USA for 11 years across 8 states with the last 6 years in Alaska.Ukraine and Russia for 2 years then in Chile for a year I speak with many people from all cultures and we have had some very candid conversations which we find very constructive and informed on both sides. Anyone reading this read my first post as I will not write out again what I said to save space. We need to keep our ways here and those who come here will have to conform to it . I have to fly out for work monday and will not be back until mid January so I want to wish all a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year it is still ok to say Merry Christmas right ?
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My first post here so bear with me. I do not condone violence on people because of what they believe. Having said that we are at a cross roads here in Canada where many are getting frustrated with people becoming citizens in Canada and then trying to change the values to what they left behind. I have a chance to talk with many people across 3 provinces and I hear the same stories. Canada has a history going back a long long while , and it may not all be good it is our history . Now being we are talking about Islam let us look at seperate Islamic schools here in Canada where they do not have to teach Canadian history or much of anything about Canada but it is more focused on the middle east and their past religious occurances . I will remind folks that Islam is not a race of people but a religion which has gone terribly wrong and a lot of innocent people are being killed because of that religion. That conflict in Isalmic states has been going on long before there was a US or Canada so the blame does not fall squarely on that block. In the conversations I mentioned earlier one thing shocked me many times , many people from that part of the world , even though they have Canadian citizenship , do not think of themselves as Canadians. That is a huge problem being as we are all Canadians first and then whatever else after but Canada is number ONE. I do not blame the immigrants I blame multiculturism which is a failed experiment plus our politicians who pander to special interest groups, Trudeau , both senior and junior , are no different. Now after reading this you can play the ,he is a racist card , or we can do what needs to be done and that is have an open conversation about it without the posturing because if we do not we will have more and more attacks like this because that is the only way to be heard and I am not agreeing with that kind of action but this has all happened before if you read history at all. In closing I would like to tell a story which happened last June when we were invited out to our neighbors for supper. They are Muslim and are now Canadian citizens who have been here 15 years. We were talking about my life in the Yukon where I trapped and knew many First Natons people. Her father is a holyman for their Mosque and she asked me a question that nearly floored me , she asked why they practiced black magic and if they could talk english. That is when a light went on and I asked if she had ever met anyone from First Nations and she answered , we do not associate with those kind of people .