1 out of 3 workers in Canada a civil servant?

[guyser]

bk59, this means no to your question if proof is available.

Yes I certainly have. Provinding these cites would be too time consuming. We have excess labor which drives down the prices and creates under employment for the private sector.

Of course anyone would know that Alberta has been dropping wages since there is an over abundance of workers and nothing really going on in alberta.

Jennie

Our private sector lags FAR behind other developed nations in the amount of resources put into training their own workforce.

Cite?

[bk59]

Yes I certainly have. Provinding these cites would be too time consuming. We have excess labor which drives down the prices and creates under employment for the private sector.

I'm going to have to agree with guyser on this one. mikedavid00, your answer is the classic answer that someone would get when someone else doesn't have anything to back up what they are saying, but doesn't want to admit it. Would you accept a statement like this:

"I have proof that seven different species of aliens have all visited Canada over the last month. I have proof of this, but providing these cites would be too time consuming."

How time consuming would it be to link to data showing unemployment and data showing immigration and then making the appropriate comparison?

I'm further suggesting that when 1/4 or 1/3(as I see it) people who work at all have to fund that much of the work force, it's double worse on us private workers and we get less take home money.

What are you talking about here? It doesn't make sense. You are saying that 1/3 of people who work are funding the work force? And this means less take home? Please explain.

Factor in demand of housing due to immigration and bam. Our quality of life as a Canadian just tanked over 15 years.

Again, I'm not willing to accept that the demand for housing is driven solely, or even mostly, by immigration. Please show some justification for this statement.

Just yesterday on the CBC this ethnic legal organization (more gov't employees IMO) filed a report saying that visible minortities have grown in poverty over 300% in the last 6 years or so.. I can't remember and I'm at work so I can't look up the cite right now. This is because there are too few jobs, far too much labor, and those jobs that are around are very low paying.

That's OK. I can wait for the cite. Feel free to link to it whenever you get the chance.

[jennie]

Jennie

Our private sector lags FAR behind other developed nations in the amount of resources put into training their own workforce.

guyser

Cite?

Good point! It was a report that I read some years ago, I think from the OECD. Couldn't find the exact one, and this one is a bit dated but ...

http://www.statcan.ca/english/studies/75-0...-pdf/e-9042.pdf

The effectiveness of Canada's private and public training effort is thus the key determinant of our ability

to meet the growing skills gap. In terms of assessing our training performance, a number of trends should

be highlighted:

l on a per-employee basis, Canadian firms spend less than half as much on training as American

firms;

l only 31% of Canadian firms do any formal training;

This is a bit more recent. They have delved into what sectors of the workforce are getting training or not ...

http://www.statcan.ca/english/freepub/89-5...-XIE1998001.pdf

The odds of receiving employer support for training clearly increased

sharply for workers where job tasks included a lot of reading, writing or calculation compared

with workers whose jobs had little need for such skills. The ratios indicate that there were

much wider differences between countries with respect to literacy uses (Figure 9B) compared

with literacy scores (Figure 9A). U.S. personnel most engaged in workplace literacy practices

had an 11 times higher probability of receiving financial support from an employer for

education or training than those who used workplace literacy practices the least. This ratio,

while high, did not differ significantly from the weighted average. The odds ratio was

significantly lower in Canada. The wide range in probabilities (5.5 to 16.6 odds) reflected

important cross-national differences.

Nothing too shocking ... but the lower rate of on the job training in Canada compared to the US seems to be consistent ... and holding.

Edited September 7, 2007 by jennie

[mikedavid00]

Canada's ability to accommodate immigrants lags behind its ability to admit them.

So CANADA IS HERE TO ACCOMADATE IMMIGRANTS??

LOl!

WHo brainwashed you??

What Koolaid have you been drinking???

[jennie]

So CANADA IS HERE TO ACCOMADATE IMMIGRANTS??

LOl!

WHo brainwashed you??

What Koolaid have you been drinking???

My meaning was ...

Canada admits more immigrants than it can employ adequately.

[Leafless]

My meaning was ...

Canada admits more immigrants than it can employ adequately.

I agree and this surely is the fault of immigration officials who allow unqualified immigrants into this country.

Of course the answer to this is to only allow immigrants from democracies similar to Canada with the the same values and educational standards as Canada.

[jennie]

I agree and this surely is the fault of immigration officials who allow unqualified immigrants into this country.

Of course the answer to this is to only allow immigrants from democracies similar to Canada with the the same values and educational standards as Canada.

That is not the issue at all. The immigrants who come ARE qualified ... as doctors, teachers, pharmacists, etc.

The problem is Canada lets them in because of their education and qualifications, but then turns around and DOES NOT ACCEPT THEIR QUALIFICATIONS for work, so they are not employed in their professions.

I must say I do not agree with your second idea, because you mean ONLY WHITE PEOPLE, right? (Let's be clear.)

Edited September 8, 2007 by jennie

[Leafless]

That is not the issue at all. The immigrants who come ARE qualified ... as doctors, teachers, pharmacists, etc.

The problem is Canada lets them in because of their education and qualifications, but then turns around and DOES NOT ACCEPT THEIR QUALIFICATIONS for work, so they are not employed in their professions.

I must say I do not agree with your second idea, because you mean ONLY WHITE PEOPLE, right? (Let's be clear.)

Let's be clear.

Who does not accept their qualifications for work as doctors, teachers, pharmacist?

I think you are totally wrong anyways, as I have observed MANY ethnics working as pharmacist, doctors, teachers, etc.

I think you are out to lunch.

Edited September 8, 2007 by Leafless

[mikedavid00]

My meaning was ...

Canada admits more immigrants than it can employ adequately.

Yes.

And that's why we should let people in only under work permits or investors. (like every other country in the world).

And we also should select people based on skills. If we need manual labor workers, then that's what should he coming here under 'unskilled worker' like the US has.

You wouldn't see many people from Asia at all coming here at all becuase they feel they are educated and above this type of work.

Canada would see people coming from mostly just Portrugal, Brazil and Mexico. All Christians.

And there would be about 20,000 people a year coming which is a more than 10x decrease in people.

Housing prices would correct themselves, universities would be easier to get into, and education requirements for jobs would decrease drastically.

Canadians would be bigger homes, have nicer cars, and then have more children.

And hosptial wait times? What hospital wait times? That would just be a thing of the past.

No politiicians pandering promisis for religoius schooling either.