Gay Rights Decision - More $$

[Craig Read]

Something about the polluted air in the GTA perhaps but the liberal judges in Ontario are going out of their way to enforce weirdness and dismantle society. Sharia law, Gay Rights, Gay Marriage and now retroactive social payments to same sex couples [back to 1985]. Once again without Parliamentary debate, a referendum, or any precedent, extra legal liberal processes are changing some fundamental aspects of Canadian life:

Such benefits will now be retroactive to April 17, 1985, when equality guarantees were included in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

The period from 1985 to 1998 is significant because of the devastating effects of AIDS on the gay community, lead counsel Douglas Elliott said in court hearings in the fall.

The Crown had contended that providing benefits retroactive to Jan. 1, 1998, was generous, and in step with the evolving legal status of same-sex relationships.

But on Friday, Justice Ellen Macdonald ruled against the federal government.

"I can find nothing generous in codifying a mechanism for discrimination that has been in existence since at least the advent of the charter," Macdonald said.

One lawyer involved in the case said the judgment will affect 1,500 gays and lesbians, with survivor benefits worth about $100 million.

Quebec was the only province not represented in the $400-million lawsuit because it operates a separate pension plan.

Not to mention the costs involved in a province that is drunk with debt, deficits and over-taxation.

Merry Christmas !

[Lost in Manitoba]

I laughed when I heard this on the radio, thinking what the reactions on this forum might be. For all of you that think it's stupid and not a just ruling, look at the bright side; Martin will have to make some sort of comment on it, and if the Canadian public is not with him, it is one more vote for the United Right come election time.

[Cameron]

Not to mention the costs involved in a province that is drunk with debt, deficits and over-taxation.

Merry Christmas !

What a shitty christmas present. You guys in Ont. are going to have a ball trying to balance the books.

[Hugo]

Oh, yes, and I just read that hot on the heels of this balderdash comes Howdy Doody's plan to cancel tax credits for parents sending their children to private schools - retroactive to January 2003, of course. This moron has barely sat down in his new office and already the blunders and broken promises are beginning. I remember his TV ads - "I won't lower your taxes, but I won't raise them either." Except if you are in business, or unless you send your kids to a private school, in which case, dig deep - Dalton needs more money to give to bereaved homosexuals.

Radio CFNY called him a "turd burglar" the other day and chastised Ontario for having elected him, although I remember them (hypocritically) poking fun at Ernie Eves alone before the election. It hasn't taken him long to begin alienating his former supporters, this clown will be lucky if he survives to the next election at this rate and I can't say I'm sorry. I didn't vote for him, and for those nitwits who did, well, you got what you deserved.

[Craig Read]

Yes extra legal processes designed to destory the soul of Ontario. We suffer from an egregious debt of $110 Billion and in Toronto we are saddled with $2.6 billion in municipal debt - or say combined each person including babies and grandmothers, is on the hook for $11,300 in debt and another $6-7.000 in off balance sheet liabilities [mostly in energy and health care] that is apparently illegal in private firms but okay for public gov'ts.

On a per tax payer basis the total debt/unfunded liabilities for someone living in Toronto is closer to $40.000 or 70 % of the average yearly salary.

Question: How will this get paid down?

Answer from Howdy Doody and David Miller:

-More health spending

-$13 billion on the Waterfront redevelopment

-More education spending

-Higher minimum wage which kills part time jobs

-Cancel the Island bridge and development and 300 jobs

-Allow the Feds to ratify and perhaps even follow Kyoto targets = 300.000 jobs to be lost in the GTA

-Annoy the US by allowing Toronto to ship its garbage to Michigan - can't the big boys here even get rid of their own garbage ????

No no reforms. Let's focus and concentrate to make sure that we have Sharia law, Gay equality nay Gay supremacy, no Private education system and higher taxes.

Focus Dalton focus. You can financially and morally and jurisdictionally bankrupt Ontario if you just focus and try hard enough.