Hillary Clinton shows true colors

[B. Max]

"The number of uninsured has grown," said Clinton. "It's hard to ignore the fact that nearly 47 million people don't have health insurance, but also because so many people with insurance have found it's difficult to get health care because the insurance companies deny you what you need."

What see doesn't tell you is that a good portion of those are illegal aliens. With many of the others those displaced by the illegal aliens. Americans would have to get use to having their taxes double or triple while standing in line ups waiting for health care.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2...3349.shtml?s=us

[Canadian Blue]

Dang Mexican's taking all of the good $4.00 an hour jobs.

[B. Max]

Dang Mexican's taking all of the good $4.00 an hour jobs.

That may be your idea of a good job. One is generally paid what they are worth. My guess is you wouldn't work for it.

[Canadian Blue]

That may be your idea of a good job. One is generally paid what they are worth. My guess is you wouldn't work for it.

I wouldn't say Mexican's are worthless.

[B. Max]

That may be your idea of a good job. One is generally paid what they are worth. My guess is you wouldn't work for it.

I wouldn't say Mexican's are worthless.

I wouldn't claim they make 4.00 an hour either.

[guyser]

What see doesn't tell you is that a good portion of those are illegal aliens.

That is because it does not include illegal aliens. Those numbers are for American citizens. Why include them, all they have to do is present at a hospital and receive emergency care.

[B. Max]

What see doesn't tell you is that a good portion of those are illegal aliens.

That is because it does not include illegal aliens. Those numbers are for American citizens. Why include them, all they have to do is present at a hospital and receive emergency care.

Of course it does. Although I question those numbers. Only two years ago they claimed it was thirty million. I doubt American citizen ship climbed by 17 million in two years.

[guyser]

Of course it does. Although I question those numbers. Only two years ago they claimed it was thirty million. I doubt American citizen ship climbed by 17 million in two years.

Nope, those are the numbers for Americans. All estimates I have seen are in the 40 to 45M range. So maybe Hillary padded them a bit but it remains # of Americans without insurance.

Why would Hillary campaign on providing coverage to illegals? She might be stupid, but she aint that stupid.

Those numbers also include people who are changing jobs and that can be three months without insurance.

[Guthrie]

This thread is a pathetic attack.

Bush has failed to protect US borders just like he's failed to bring peace to the Middle East --- both problems are worse for his executive efforts.

Now, what would the right wing Americans think about obtaining the same public health protections as the right wing Canadians have?

[B. Max]

Nope, those are the numbers for Americans. All estimates I have seen are in the 40 to 45M range. So maybe Hillary padded them a bit but it remains # of Americans without insurance.

Why would Hillary campaign on providing coverage to illegals? She might be stupid, but she aint that stupid.

Those numbers also include people who are changing jobs and that can be three months without insurance.

Those numbers include illegal aliens. http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article....RTICLE_ID=43275

While politicians often mention there are 43 million without health insurance in this country, the report estimates that at least 25 percent of those are illegal immigrants. The figure could be as high as 50 percent.

[B. Max]

This thread is a pathetic attack.

Bush has failed to protect US borders just like he's failed to bring peace to the Middle East --- both problems are worse for his executive efforts.

Now, what would the right wing Americans think about obtaining the same public health protections as the right wing Canadians have?

It's not pathetic, it is simply the facts. One big problem I have with Bush is he won't protect the southern border. Infact there has been an invasion and Clinton and the dems want to use it to ram through government health care and jack up taxes. When she, Clinton tried to get government insurance in when Bill was president there was a huge backlash from Americans and the whole idea fell by the way. The last thing Canadians want is another system in the US like the one they flee in this country.

[guyser]

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article....RTICLE_ID=43275

Thanks for the link, but it does seem that "perhaps" World Net is playing games ?

http://www.cbpp.org/8-29-06health.htm

http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/h...-coverage_x.htm

And from the US Census Bureau....

Health Insurance Coverage

Overview

The percentage of the nation’s population without health insurance coverage remained unchanged, at 15.7 percent in 2004.

The percentage of people covered by employment-based health insurance declined from 60.4 percent in 2003 to 59.8 percent in 2004

Seems there are some questions raised by World Net. And to be perfectly honest , even if they supported my viewpoint , I would never use WND as a source.

[Guthrie]

This thread is a pathetic attack.

Bush has failed to protect US borders just like he's failed to bring peace to the Middle East --- both problems are worse for his executive efforts.

Now, what would the right wing Americans think about obtaining the same public health protections as the right wing Canadians have?

It's not pathetic, it is simply the facts. One big problem I have with Bush is he won't protect the southern border. Infact there has been an invasion and Clinton and the dems want to use it to ram through government health care and jack up taxes. When she, Clinton tried to get government insurance in when Bill was president there was a huge backlash from Americans and the whole idea fell by the way. The last thing Canadians want is another system in the US like the one they flee in this country.

I am afraid you have your facts mixed up.

[B. Max]

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article....RTICLE_ID=43275

Thanks for the link, but it does seem that "perhaps" World Net is playing games ?

As you will notice WND sighted a study by Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons.

http://www.jpands.org/vol10no1/cosman.pdf

[B. Max]

I am afraid you have your facts mixed up.

What facts are those.

[Guthrie]

I thought you could figure that out by the part of the quote, of your post, left un-struck

Clinton and the dems want to use it to ram through government health care and jack up taxes.

these, 'facts,' are nonsense

[guyser]

As you will notice WND sighted a study by Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons.

I had read that already. It remains unclear since they use "if" and "could be".

It really does not amend the intent of the OP, I was just pointing out that official Govt sites say otherwise.

[B. Max]

Clinton and the dems want to use it to ram through government health care and jack up taxes.

these, 'facts,' are nonsense

How do you know it's nonsense. Who do you think is going to pay for it. It will be just like this country. On the other hand I doubt that dems will get their hands on the white house.

[Guthrie]

Clinton and the dems want to use it to ram through government health care and jack up taxes.

these, 'facts,' are nonsense

How do you know it's nonsense. ...

OK, then, defend your, 'facts,' -- prove it

[B. Max]

OK, then, defend your, 'facts,' -- prove it

Answer the question and you will have your proof.

[Guthrie]

like I said, 'nonsense'

[B. Max]

like I said, 'nonsense'

Then answer the question.

[Guthrie]

in response to your peddling nonsense you think I should start answering your nonsensical questions --- how sad

[B. Max]

in response to your peddling nonsense you think I should start answering your nonsensical questions --- how sad

I think you should answer the question and be very precise, lest your credibility suffers.

[Guthrie]

Thank you for sharing what you think.

I think, you should get over yourself and quit accusing democrats of wanting to, 'jack up,' tax rates.

or else prove it