Cop Charged With Torture

[BayLee]

Time to get stories straight I would suspect.

Or complete a full investigation instead of coming to a quick conclusion.

Just as in New West BC

When the cop,Todd Sweet blew away the passenger in the non moving vehicle,he fired radomly at the vehicle filled with young people,killing the one.

I'm not going to respond since you can't come up with a link, so as in the previous came you are simply hiding some facts from us.

An investigation takes time my ignorant friend.

You're hiding facts from us again which is why you can't give us a link. I know you're pissed off about a speeding ticket or something, so the last thing you want is for police to be given due process, but for the rest of us, lets see all of the facts.

God you are stupid.

There was no investigation done in 5 days.In fact the investigations in these case happened months later.

If a cop says he opened fire on a non moving car because he feared for his fellow cop,you say so,or someone says so for you.The families have a right to know right away why their loved one is dead.you dont have a spokesman say 5 days later what your reason was.

Obviouslly it was time spent getting the story correct

As for links,look it up yourself.Everyone knows about Todd Sweet New West BC cop who has been going around killing and beating up people.The stories are there by the dozens on this batsard

I am assuming of course that you know how to Google

[BayLee]

Over the past year the Vancouver Police Department (VPD) has occupied an unprecedented place in the corporate media, as many particular incidents of brutality have been exposed. Although this extensive media coverage has obviously outraged the VPD it has not significantly limited their brutality. The vast majority of police attacks, of course, go unreported.

At times the media will promote false solutions to the problem of police brutality, but more often than not they will actively assist the police in covering up brutality, as we have most recently seen with the cruel beating and attempted frame-up of eight East Vancouver residents on February 29. Immediately after clubbing, pepper-spraying and breaking the ribs of the residents as punishment for having the audacity to question why the police were arresting someone, the cops ran straight to all the corporate media outlets in town, clearly showing that they understood the transparent nature of what they had done and the need to cover their asses by building up a bullshit story in the public eye and the courts.

The police operate in an atmosphere of near-impunity, because brutality – the illegal use of force – is part of their job description. Maintaining this oppressive society would be impossible without the police, without their batons, pepper-spray and hand-cuffs.

The VPD can fire two of the cops involved in the Stanley Park beatings while the cops who killed Jeff Berg and Frank Paul and beat Kulwinder Parhar remain untouched. Politicians and political activists can whine about how “nasty” these “awful” police are until they’re blue in the face, and VPD gangsters will continue to cruise around busting skulls without fear of any real consequences.

Jeff Berg - On October 22, 2000, there was an allegation of a marijuana grow-op rip-off which may have involved Jeff and three others. Jeff was in a vehicle in a rear alley near the scene, and as the car started to leave the area, a police vehicle rammed the car, causing it to spin, pinned against a garage. Jeff exited the vehicle, and according to civilian independent eyewitness reports, stood behind the vehicle, hands and feet spread, motionless. It is alleged the officer advanced towards Jeff from behind, gun drawn, while Jeff was frozen in surrender mode. Witnesses claim he was struck in the head / neck area with the officer's gun, and while Jeff was laying motionless on his side, the officer continued by kicking Jeff repeatedly "soccer-ball style" in the head, testicles, and torso. This is cruel and unnecessary force by any estimate. One eyewitness alleges the officer then chose to drag Jeff's lifeless body face down across the pavement, and was so appalled he began videotaping in case other violent episodes erupted. The tape clearly shows the police standing idly by while Jeff lies motionless bleeding on the alleyway, showing no concern whatsoever for his traumatic condition. Jeff's family believes it is grossly negligent for the attending officers to withhold immediate assistance to aid a victim. Jeff was revived later at the scene by paramedics, but died of his injuries on October 24, 2000 after being removed from life support. The internal investigators assigned to this case were, in the family's opinion, biased and insistent on minimizing the event. The police maintain that Jeff was violent, a scuffle ensued and as a result Jeff just "collapsed". The family was not satisfied with this explanation so they assembled a team of licensed private investigators to knock on doors and look for eyewitnesses, which were found. They now form part of the Police Complaint Commissioner's file. VPD concluded their internal review late December 2002, after Crown Counsel reviewed VPD's file and ruled there would be no charges laid.

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[BayLee]

And then there is the famous Guns And Roses riot in Vancouver.

Yes a bunch of punks rioted and the cops were called.

The cops ordered the crowd to disperse.

Robert Parent,40 years old most certainly wanted out of there and was more than willing to leave.

Instead,he was attacked and rammed in the mouth by a cop baton ,losing several teety and needing imediate surgery.

All this was caught on camera and broadcast extensivly on TV.

The cop who did it,never charged

Reason given.

Cop said he feared Parent was attacking him,as the tape clearly shows was not the case

The cop who decided the correct action was taken by the cops was non less than Sgt. Kieron McConnell

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In February 1999, McConnell was one of three Vancouver cops acquitted of allegedly assaulting the son of a former MLA outside the Roxy nightclub in August 1997.

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A bit of a pattern as you can see .

Look out for your brothers and sisters

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[PolyNewbie]

He was arrested for a beer...?...right...??....okey dokey there Poly.

Right. He had an open beer in a parking lot at a hockey game. He was dead 20 minutes after they arrested him took him "downtown" shot to the back of the head execution style done in self defense.

[Canadian Blue]

As for links,look it up yourself.Everyone knows about Todd Sweet New West BC cop who has been going around killing and beating up people.The stories are there by the dozens on this batsard

You're the one who's giving us these stories, it's telling that you can't even provide us with basic information.

God you are stupid.

There was no investigation done in 5 days.In fact the investigations in these case happened months later.

If a cop says he opened fire on a non moving car because he feared for his fellow cop,you say so,or someone says so for you.The families have a right to know right away why their loved one is dead.you dont have a spokesman say 5 days later what your reason was.

It takes time to collect all of the necessary information to be released to the press. I'm sure the police officer was distraught after it happened. They need all of the information.

By the way, I can't be that stupid since I've already shown how you have lied about the case, and failed to disclose some facts important to the case. Before you make personal insults you should consider backing up your arguments instead of sounding like an irrational heretic who hates pretty well anybody that ensures your safety.

Right. He had an open beer in a parking lot at a hockey game. He was dead 20 minutes after they arrested him took him "downtown" shot to the back of the head execution style done in self defense.

I figure he had the real story behind 9/11.

Listen people, it's obvious that Baylee has a problem with authority, thats why he can't provide us a single link. I mean really, it's the ravings of someone who is ticked off about getting a speeding ticket or going to jail for something they did.

[BayLee]

Listen people, it's obvious that Baylee has a problem with authority, thats why he can't provide us a single link. I mean really, it's the ravings of someone who is ticked off about getting a speeding ticket or going to jail for something they did.

That is just such a stupid tired thing to say for trying to discredit someone who is just showing how BAD cops can be.

And again about the links.

As I said,look it up yourself.

Maybe you need instructions?

OK..

Go to google,and type in officer todd sweet.

or Ian Bush.

Or Guns and Roses riot.

Or Jeff Berg.

Or Richmond RCMP and kiddie porn.That was the lattest story

Gee,just type in Vancouver police department.You will get all kinds of sh1 t on those people

Or try this one..batterers in blue

You can do it.

I know you can

[PolyNewbie]

guyser:They are having a bit of a hard time coming up with the truth, and since you were there obviously, it would be a big help. Thanks, let us know how it goes will you?

It was in the papers.

[guyser]

guyser:They are having a bit of a hard time coming up with the truth, and since you were there obviously, it would be a big help. Thanks, let us know how it goes will you?

It was in the papers.

Yes it was inh the papers, but what I am saying is that your version of events is different. Thats why I said to you to go and help them out.

Umm....once more perhaps?

He was arrested for having a beer....right...???....

(oh god please dont answer yes! -my cranium can only take so much)

[Canadian Blue]

That is just such a stupid tired thing to say for trying to discredit someone who is just showing how BAD cops can be.

No, it's called common sense. I have never had a problem with the police because I use common sense, and don't break the law. You obviously hate the cops because of a speeding ticket, or because you can't take responsibility for some stupid decision's you made in your life.

And again about the links.

As I said,look it up yourself.

Maybe you need instructions?

No, you need to back up your arguments, if you fail to do so then I'll report that you're trolling the boards. So far you have based all troops, and all police officers, I'm wondering who you'll bash next.

Go to google,and type in officer todd sweet.

That's your job, you are the one saying all police officers are evil and pigs, thus you have to back up your arguments.

You can do it.

I know you can

Well if you continue on, and call all police officers pigs again, then I'll simply report you for making derogatory and hateful remarks. Either way, back up your own arguments, I am sure you can.

I find that in high school included, the people who usually hated cops were the ones who were either unintelligent, dope smokers, or kids who broke the law constantly.

If you want to go to a site with likeminded people go to copwatch.com

He was arrested for having a beer....right...???....

He was arrested for obstruction, something which Baylee conveniently forgot to tell us, along with all of the other facts with regards to the case.

[Canadian Blue]

Baylee, for your consideration:

RESEARCH YOUR POST

If you are stating a fact, be prepared to back it up with some official sources (websites, links etc). It is also important to structure your post in a way that everyone can understand. That means writing complete sentences and paragraphs with the appropriate grammar. If for some reason, you enjoy writing long confusing sentences and paragraphs riddled with poor grammar and spelling mistakes, your post, and therefore your opinions, will likely be discarded. Therefore, it is in your best interest to make sure that your post includes sufficient sources and contains a well-researched and well-organized argument.

http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums/index.p...&CODE=01&HID=17

[BayLee]

That's your job, you are the one saying all police officers are evil and pigs, thus you have to back up your arguments.

Well if you continue on, and call all police officers pigs again, then I'll simply report you for making derogatory and hateful remarks. Either way, back up your own arguments, I am sure you can.

aving a beer....right...???....

He was arrested for obstruction, something which Baylee conveniently forgot to tell us, along with all of the other facts with regards to the case.

If Ian was not drinking beer he would not have been arrested.If not for a rookie cop who was embaressed in front of many people,he would not have been arrested.

As for...

"Well if you continue on, and call all police officers pigs again,"

"you are the one saying all police officers are evil and pigs"

I will give you one post to show where I said and did that.

Or admit you lied when you typed that.

Or I will report you for lieing about what another poster said and posted

I think that can be said to be against forum rules

[Wilber]

BayLee

I think calling these people things is appropriate.

I think PIGS is a better word but some people for whatever reason dont approve of that term

[guyser]

....and thus the sounds of crickets in the wilderness.

[Canadian Blue]

If Ian was not drinking beer he would not have been arrested.If not for a rookie cop who was embaressed in front of many people,he would not have been arrested.

Actually, he would have either way for lying to a police officer, it's called obstruction.

I will give you one post to show where I said and did that.

Or admit you lied when you typed that.

Or I will report you for lieing about what another poster said and posted

I think that can be said to be against forum rules

Reference to Wilber's post. It has been shown that you simply have a hatred of all police officers, in saying that you aren't providing criticism, all you are doing is spreading hatred for all police officers.

Many a cop ,if not most,think they are better than the average citizen.

Most are not.

In fact most are just nobodies on a power trip

Once again, your obvious hatred is being shown.

Do you just have a problem with authority in general?