Dion Supports Bush on the Environment

[Keepitsimple]

From today's Toronto Star - buried of course, near the end of an article with an unrelated headline:

Dion voiced considerable skepticism that Harper would put together a credible plan but asked the government to come forward with new proposals.

Even U.S. President George W. Bush – whose administration consistently questioned the science behind climate change – put forward "the kind of plan we need everywhere," Dion said.

Link:http://www.thestar.com/News/article/174709

Me thinks there might be another "clarification" forthcoming similar to yesterday's fiasco that saw him supporting the re-admission of Adscam crook Mark-Yvan Cote to the Liberal Party.

[BC_chick]

From today's Toronto Star - buried of course, near the end of an article with an unrelated headline:

Dion voiced considerable skepticism that Harper would put together a credible plan but asked the government to come forward with new proposals.

Even U.S. President George W. Bush – whose administration consistently questioned the science behind climate change – put forward "the kind of plan we need everywhere," Dion said.

Link:http://www.thestar.com/News/article/174709

Me thinks there might be another "clarification" forthcoming similar to yesterday's fiasco that saw him supporting the re-admission of Adscam crook Mark-Yvan Cote to the Liberal Party.

Bush HAS been talking out both sides of his mouth. What's there to retract?

[tml12]

From today's Toronto Star - buried of course, near the end of an article with an unrelated headline:

Dion voiced considerable skepticism that Harper would put together a credible plan but asked the government to come forward with new proposals.

Even U.S. President George W. Bush – whose administration consistently questioned the science behind climate change – put forward "the kind of plan we need everywhere," Dion said.

Link:http://www.thestar.com/News/article/174709

Me thinks there might be another "clarification" forthcoming similar to yesterday's fiasco that saw him supporting the re-admission of Adscam crook Mark-Yvan Cote to the Liberal Party.

And I thought Iggy was king of the award winning one-liners.

[Canadian Blue]

It seems like Dion is nothing but a Bush clone.

[jdobbin]

It seems like Dion is nothing but a Bush clone.

Bush's initiatives have some areas worth a look. Harper has dismissed those ideas. We can't claim that Harper is a Bush clone. And now we can't say Dion is anti-American. Imagine that.

[tml12]

It seems like Dion is nothing but a Bush clone.

Bush's initiatives have some areas worth a look. Harper has dismissed those ideas. We can't claim that Harper is a Bush clone. And now we can't say Dion is anti-American. Imagine that.

Dion is a Quebecer who is a French citizen.

Something tells me appreciation of America isn't high on his list.,

[jdobbin]

Dion is a Quebecer who is a French citizen.

Something tells me appreciation of America isn't high on his list.,

Is your hatred that much that this is all that can be raised as a criticism: that he inherited French citizenship?

As far as what he thinks about the U.S., what evidence that you about his feelings one way or the other on the U.S.?

[tml12]

Dion is a Quebecer who is a French citizen.

Something tells me appreciation of America isn't high on his list.,

Is your hatred that much that this is all that can be raised as a criticism: that he inherited French citizenship?

As far as what he thinks about the U.S., what evidence that you about his feelings one way or the other on the U.S.?

Just a guess...the French (and Quebecers) have been historically anti-American for whatever reason.

[jdobbin]

Just a guess...the French (and Quebecers) have been historically anti-American for whatever reason.

I don't even think you can make that claim with any validity. Lucien Bouchard's children are all American. Quebecers vacation in the U.S. and generally have more favourable views of the U.S. that other parts of Canada.

[tml12]

Just a guess...the French (and Quebecers) have been historically anti-American for whatever reason.

I don't even think you can make that claim with any validity. Lucien Bouchard's children are all American. Quebecers vacation in the U.S. and generally have more favourable views of the U.S. that other parts of Canada.

Quebecers don't care who Lucien Bouchard's children are and do you have polls to prove that Quebecers have a favourable view of the U.S.? Quebecers are more likely than in any other province to be anti-American.

[jdobbin]

Quebecers don't care who Lucien Bouchard's children are and do you have polls to prove that Quebecers have a favourable view of the U.S.? Quebecers are more likely than in any other province to be anti-American.

This 2003 poll indicated 78% of Quebecers like Americans.

http://www.irpp.org/po/archive/apr03/parkin.pdf

[tml12]

Quebecers don't care who Lucien Bouchard's children are and do you have polls to prove that Quebecers have a favourable view of the U.S.? Quebecers are more likely than in any other province to be anti-American.

This 2003 poll indicated 78% of Quebecers like Americans.

http://www.irpp.org/po/archive/apr03/parkin.pdf

In recent history, though, attitudes have changed. Note this article: http://www.mcgill.ca/reporter/37/14/anti-american/

[Canuck E Stan]

This 2003 poll indicated 78% of Quebecers like Americans.

http://www.irpp.org/po/archive/apr03/parkin.pdf

Something a little more recent.

Anti-American obsession: Quebec vs. the U.S.

The "sea-change" in Quebec's attitude towards America was displayed in a 2004 La Presse international survey of ten countries asking which U.S. Presidential candidate was preferred and what the respondents thought of Americans. English Canadians' approval of Americans was 79 percent. Quebeckers' approval ratings were only 52 percent.

Where did this emerging anti-Americanism come from? Haglund identifies two sources: the first is what he calls "The French Connection" and the second is Quebec's historical antimilitarist tradition.

According to Haglund, Quebec's chattering classes take their intellectual cues from France.

People from France are French citizens,Quebec takes it's intellectual cues from France, Dion is a French citizen and from Quebec,therefore, it is highly probable that Dion is anti-American.

[jdobbin]

In recent history, though, attitudes have changed. Note this article: http://www.mcgill.ca/reporter/37/14/anti-american/

I think you have to separate how Quebec feels about American war policy from what they feel about American people.

[jdobbin]

Where did this emerging anti-Americanism come from? Haglund identifies two sources: the first is what he calls "The French Connection" and the second is Quebec's historical antimilitarist tradition.

According to Haglund, Quebec's chattering classes take their intellectual cues from France.

People from France are French citizens,Quebec takes it's intellectual cues from France, Dion is a French citizen and from Quebec,therefore, it is highly probable that Dion is anti-American.

I see no evidence from Haglund that Quebec people take their cues from France. Traditionally, Quebec has been the most pro-American province in Canada even when France didn't like the U.S.

The rest of your claim on what Dion believes his just crap.

[BC_chick]

Just a guess...the French (and Quebecers) have been historically anti-American for whatever reason.

Guess again. The US owes its independence partly to French aid during the war of Independence. The statue of Liberty was a congratulations gift from France as well. The US model of democracy, with the Executive, Legislative and Judicial branch, are taken from the French philosopher Montesquieu.

[tml12]

Just a guess...the French (and Quebecers) have been historically anti-American for whatever reason.

Guess again. The US owes its independence partly to French aid during the war of Independence. The statue of Liberty was a congratulations gift from France as well. The US model of democracy, with the Executive, Legislative and Judicial branch, are taken from the French philosopher Montesquieu.

Well yeah, I know that (I've written academic papers on it) and it's a good thing you do too but that does not mean they like each other now.

[BC_chick]

Just a guess...the French (and Quebecers) have been historically anti-American for whatever reason.

Guess again. The US owes its independence partly to French aid during the war of Independence. The statue of Liberty was a congratulations gift from France as well. The US model of democracy, with the Executive, Legislative and Judicial branch, are taken from the French philosopher Montesquieu.

Well yeah, I know that (I've written academic papers on it) and it's a good thing you do too but that does not mean they like each other now.

It started with Iraq, true. But you did say "historically."

Anyway, details, details....

[tml12]

Just a guess...the French (and Quebecers) have been historically anti-American for whatever reason.

Guess again. The US owes its independence partly to French aid during the war of Independence. The statue of Liberty was a congratulations gift from France as well. The US model of democracy, with the Executive, Legislative and Judicial branch, are taken from the French philosopher Montesquieu.

Well yeah, I know that (I've written academic papers on it) and it's a good thing you do too but that does not mean they like each other now.

It started with Iraq, true. But you did say "historically."

Anyway, details, details....

That is true...I did not mean to come across as harsh. The Americans and the French, in reality, have helped each other out.

I'll give you that one...