PolyNewbie Posted January 24, 2007 Author Report Posted January 24, 2007 kimmy:Dude, there's no "New World Order". Tell George Bush & David Rockefeller that. Quote Support the troops. Bring them home. Let the bankers fight their own wars. www.infowars.com Watch 911 Mysteries at http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8172271955308136871 "By the time the people wake up to see the bars around them, the door will have already slammed shut." Texx Mars
Riverwind Posted January 24, 2007 Report Posted January 24, 2007 I keep saying you are wrong and asking what books you have read about money or where you have learned anything about money and banking.My explaination is straight forward - it is pretty obvious to me that banks will need pay money whenever they create money. If you disagree then provide a counter argument with more substance than 'you are wrong because some books I read say so'. Incidently, I don't care how many books you read - you obviously did not learn anything by reading those books if you cannot come up a coherent counter argument in your own words. I keep pointing out that even John Kenneth Galbraith thought the USA was controlled by the bankers.Quotes without context are meaningless. Quote To fly a plane, you need both a left wing and a right wing.
PolyNewbie Posted January 24, 2007 Author Report Posted January 24, 2007 Riverwind:My explaination is straight forward - it is pretty obvious to me that banks will need pay money whenever they create money. If you disagree then provide a counter argument with more substance than 'you are wrong because some books I read say so'. So, what books have you read about banking ? Are you just making your argument up from what you think should be true ? You obviously do not know a single thing about any of this. Quote Support the troops. Bring them home. Let the bankers fight their own wars. www.infowars.com Watch 911 Mysteries at http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8172271955308136871 "By the time the people wake up to see the bars around them, the door will have already slammed shut." Texx Mars
Riverwind Posted January 24, 2007 Report Posted January 24, 2007 So, what books have you read about banking ? Are you just making your argument up from what you think should be true ? You obviously do not know a single thing about any of this.I know enough that I can explain what is going on and why bankers have to pay to create money. The fact that you cannot provide a counter explaination strongly indicates that you don't know much about the topic.My argument not an opinion - it is a fact. When bankers lend money it has to go somewhere. When you follow the trail of money you realize that it must end up back in a bank. If it is in a bank then a bank must pay interest on it. It is not too hard to understand. Quote To fly a plane, you need both a left wing and a right wing.
Jenna Posted January 24, 2007 Report Posted January 24, 2007 polynewbie, i am so completely on the same page as you are. i have so much to say about this, that i dont even know where to begin. 9/11 was an inside job, pretty much everything is an inside job, and it's high time that people woke and and began to realize the real deal. it's disturbing to know that not only are people not speaking out as they should be, most of them don't even know about it or are unable to comprehend. new world order a conspiracy? ha. ugh, theres so much to say, and its all so important. i feel overwhelmed, enlightened, horrified, angry and hopeful all at once. here's a fine list of resources by denying the truth, you are hurting us all, not just yourself - New World Order - North American Union - 9/11 inside job - alex jones - aaron russo - fema camps - war on the middle class - bilderburg - canadian criminal code - prof. steven jones - nafta - canadian action party - government lies - illuminati - bohemian grove - martial law - police state - charlie sheen speaks out on 9/11 - david icke - Texe Marrs - Jerome Corsi - iraq lies - the amero - keith olberman - erasing the borders - www.infowars.com - www.prisonplanet.com - www.spp.gov <------ gov't website for the north american union im scared. Quote I'm one of those Canadians that's still Canadian.
PolyNewbie Posted January 24, 2007 Author Report Posted January 24, 2007 so am I. Quote Support the troops. Bring them home. Let the bankers fight their own wars. www.infowars.com Watch 911 Mysteries at http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8172271955308136871 "By the time the people wake up to see the bars around them, the door will have already slammed shut." Texx Mars
Jenna Posted January 24, 2007 Report Posted January 24, 2007 god help us all Quote I'm one of those Canadians that's still Canadian.
Riverwind Posted January 24, 2007 Report Posted January 24, 2007 here's a fine list of resourcesby denying the truth, you are hurting us all, not just yourself Most of the 'resources' you list are full of factual errors, deliberate lies and half truths. The only thing that is scary that people are actually dumb enough to believe the rubbish that these guys peddle. Quote To fly a plane, you need both a left wing and a right wing.
PolyNewbie Posted January 24, 2007 Author Report Posted January 24, 2007 What have you read about money and banking Riverwind ? Quote Support the troops. Bring them home. Let the bankers fight their own wars. www.infowars.com Watch 911 Mysteries at http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8172271955308136871 "By the time the people wake up to see the bars around them, the door will have already slammed shut." Texx Mars
Jenna Posted January 24, 2007 Report Posted January 24, 2007 here's a fine list of resourcesby denying the truth, you are hurting us all, not just yourself Most of the 'resources' you list are full of factual errors, deliberate lies and half truths. The only thing that is scary that people are actually dumb enough to believe the rubbish that these guys peddle. how does it feel to be pitied by the informed? Quote I'm one of those Canadians that's still Canadian.
Riverwind Posted January 24, 2007 Report Posted January 24, 2007 What have you read about money and banking Riverwind ?There you go again - evading the real issue. My explaination is rational and logical. If you disagree the you must present a counter argument that demonstrates what is missing or omitted from my explaination. The fact that you refuse to offer such a counter argument clearly indicates that you do not have one. Mostly likely because my explaination is correct. Quote To fly a plane, you need both a left wing and a right wing.
Jenna Posted January 24, 2007 Report Posted January 24, 2007 please try to argue with this, i beg you to prove me wrong. any information seen on this clip can be found easily if more evidence is needed. why is it that when you type 9/11 into a search engine, more "conspiracy" references come up than anything else? in fact, i find it difficult to obtain mainstream media views about it these days bush doesnt seem like a puppet to you? doesnt seem like hes possibly working for someone else with their own agenda? police state and fema camps dont exist? wake up. sheeple. Quote I'm one of those Canadians that's still Canadian.
Jenna Posted January 24, 2007 Report Posted January 24, 2007 it's all so painfully obvious that i'm truly shocked when i find myslef still running into people like you what does it have to take another "terror attack" well pay attention, because one is coming watch out for those oh so dangerous iranians. mark my words non believers, you will remember us when this all comes trues and we save your idle asses. Quote I'm one of those Canadians that's still Canadian.
guyser Posted January 24, 2007 Report Posted January 24, 2007 it's all so painfully obvious that i'm truly shocked when i find myslef still running into people like you You should get out more often then! Quote
Riverwind Posted January 24, 2007 Report Posted January 24, 2007 -- Quote To fly a plane, you need both a left wing and a right wing.
Jenna Posted January 24, 2007 Report Posted January 24, 2007 extensive damage? uh no silverstein blatently said he "pulled" wtc 7 because of the "loss of life that was suffered that day" oh so the explosives just happened to be in there already? oh, ok also, show me the plane from the pentagon, and explain to me how it would crash into the building, disinigrate, and make a 10 foot hole in the wall. and explain to me why rumsfeld said that the pentagon was hit by a missile. honestly though feel ridiculous Quote I'm one of those Canadians that's still Canadian.
Jenna Posted January 24, 2007 Report Posted January 24, 2007 http://youtube.com/watch?v=PabIGMy0uNg i cry for you fools Quote I'm one of those Canadians that's still Canadian.
guyser Posted January 24, 2007 Report Posted January 24, 2007 Jenna, Silverstein is the owner , or rather leaseholder for the WTC. So, tell me how he managed to get almost $2B from the insurance companies when all they would have to do is deny the claim as they could call you and Poly to explain it to them? How come the Re-Insurance market almost collapsed in the wake of 9-11 ? Why wouldn't someone somewhere have done something? Quote
Riverwind Posted January 24, 2007 Report Posted January 24, 2007 All of your arguements have already been made and completely debunked. If you want to find answers then you can find them on the net and in the 9/11 threads on this forum. I would suggest you start here. Quote To fly a plane, you need both a left wing and a right wing.
Jenna Posted January 24, 2007 Report Posted January 24, 2007 lol @ why actually silverstein received 7 billion and cheney just happened to be the ceo of haliburton, also raking in billions you have yet to answer my vaild questions concerning 9/11 why was steel melted thousands of degrees higher than jet fuel can burn at? why did the support structure just melt away? the biggest steel beams manufactured, just melted and stayed at 3000 degrees for 6 weeks? tell me how they melted please why was the man made explosive, thermate, found in both towers, and then also in wtc 7 seems he used the same type in all 3 buildings? WHERE IS THE PLANE THAT HIT THE PENTAGON? how could a bunch of dudes with box cutters highjack 4 planes and successfully crash them into nyc? why did norad stand down instead of shooting those planes down? why did bush sit for 20 minutes in a classroom after being told? how could both towers collapse from fire, and fall at free fall speed? they did the shabbiest inside job ever, and they still managed to fool people instead of just disagreeing, look into what youre saying ok next youll be telling me about how wonderful martial law is Quote I'm one of those Canadians that's still Canadian.
Riverwind Posted January 24, 2007 Report Posted January 24, 2007 why was steel melted thousands of degrees higher than jet fuel can burn at?No one claims that steel melted - steel looses a lot of strength when it is heated. Normal hydrocarbon fires from carpets and office equipment can heat steel enough to cause it to weaken. However, fires did not cause the collapse on their own. The fires combined with the structural damage from the plane caused the collapse.All of your questions have been answered in this forum already. I don't think you will find many people who want to repost the same arguments. The information is available if you are willing to look for it. If you are not willing to look then that suggests that you are more interested in believing in a paranoid fantasy that finding out the truth of the matter. Quote To fly a plane, you need both a left wing and a right wing.
guyser Posted January 24, 2007 Report Posted January 24, 2007 actually silverstein received 7 billion No thanks , I will stand by my $2B (actually about $2.2B) for the destruction of the towers .I am not talking about other payouts , just the building. What does Cheney have to do with this? Quote
Jenna Posted January 24, 2007 Report Posted January 24, 2007 haha you seem upset funny how that always happens im looking at your "answers", and have noticed that most are just speculation, like yours as far as suggesting what i should and should not talk about, i believe this subject fits in nicely with the title of this topic, and ill say what i want to if you are tired of explaining, and dont want to talk to me about it, then refrain from doing so youd be a good candidate for fox news Quote I'm one of those Canadians that's still Canadian.
guyser Posted January 24, 2007 Report Posted January 24, 2007 No one claims that steel melted - steel looses a lot of strength when it is heated. Normal hydrocarbon fires from carpets and office equipment can heat steel enough to cause it to weaken. Jeez, its not that I want to get in the camp with our resident conspirators, but this steel burning is part of the problem with the findings. It seems there "would not be enough" heat to melt it like the commission says, but other factors had to be at work. But there is plenty of steel that survived , tons and tons of it. All stored at Freshkills in NJ. Quote
Jenna Posted January 24, 2007 Report Posted January 24, 2007 cheney is making billions off of this war through haliburton, and 9/11 was a pretext for war look into 9/11 insider trading my goodness. and about the steel, it makes no sense, and neither does gigantic explosions that turned concrete into a fine dust what on earth was exploding, and why do so many witnesses to it report hearing 3 or 4 of them if you watch the footage of it, there are clearly explosions going off, and they had nothing to do with that silly plane and buildings dont collapse when only one corner is hit that plane looked like a hot wheels plane compared to that building sorry, buildings, both of which, collapsed the exact same way, and also the same way wtc 7 did, with silversteins go ahead, the same friggin day you must question that? Quote I'm one of those Canadians that's still Canadian.
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