Aboriginals in the New World were beat here by Europeans

White Doors · December 11, 2006

The premise was that Europeans were in fact here first and then interbred with the Asians that came later. DNA evidence backs it up as does archeological evidence.

When will we put this 'natives' red herring to rest?

Equal rights for all!

Slavik44 · December 11, 2006

The premise was that Europeans were in fact here first and then interbred with the Asians that came later. DNA evidence backs it up as does archeological evidence.
When will we put this 'natives' red herring to rest?

Equal rights for all!

I didn't see the show, but are you talking about the theory that suggests the clovis culture in North America sprung from the Solutrean Culture of Europe...which transplanted itself to North America by fishing along the Ice sheets? If that is the theory you are referrign to, it is a stretch to claim it is prooven and supported by both Archeological and Genetic evidence. I have seeen one documentary on this theory. However, it was designed in a way to make the archological evidence more convincing then it really was. Of course there could be new information that the documentary you saw made you aware of in which case I would be interested in hearing it. Or it could be that you are talking about a completely different theory, of which I would still be interested in hearing it, thanks.

Anyways one problem with documentaries, is that they really are not documentaries so much as they are arguements for a point. Take Faranheit 9/11 its labelled as a documentary, but I wouldn't go around and calling it fair, balanced, or accurate.

Posit · December 11, 2006

You have some 'splainin' to do...

People were in the Americas more than 20,000 years before they reached Europia. There is more likely a chance the Europe was populated by natives than the other way around....

seabee · December 12, 2006

I also saw a documentary that showed the Chinese discovered America more than 70 years before Colombus, and that this presence is proven by DNA evidence found in today's Amerindians. Nice hypothesis, but like that of the "Europeans" being the first native, it is, at this stage, hypothetical, nothing more, maybe tentalising, to some for political rather than scientific motives, but it will take more than a few generations and many more significant archeological and anthropological finds to convince the scientific community as a whole that these hypotheses are well-founded. Just remember how not so very long ago the few scientist that predicted global warming were qualified as "quacks"; even now, as the phenomenon is starting to devastate us, there are still some who don't believe it.

And one should always beware of scientific hypotheses that are quickly detoured for political puposes, especially when the purpose is to abolish existing and acquired rights of an identifiable group within sociely.

jdobbin · December 12, 2006

The premise was that Europeans were in fact here first and then interbred with the Asians that came later. DNA evidence backs it up as does archeological evidence.
When will we put this 'natives' red herring to rest?

Equal rights for all!

Citation?

Slavik44 · December 12, 2006

You have some 'splainin' to do...
People were in the Americas more than 20,000 years before they reached Europia. There is more likely a chance the Europe was populated by natives than the other way around....

Uhmmm...your first premise is questionable your second is a big negative.

1. 60,000 year old sites in The America's

This claim is based on finding what is believed to be tools. But even top archeologists involved in this push to discover early antiquity in America will note that, it is still questionable as to wether these "tools" are human made. Until more evidence comes around, all we can conlude is that we are looking at rocks (that may resemble tools) that got covered by soil more than 50,000 years ago. Far from your claim of definite truth.

2. America populating Europe

Utter Rubbish, the evidence still indicates out of Africa Origins. Even if we did find early sites in North America, it would indicate nothing more then early sites in North America. That by itself does not indicate American settlement of Europe.