normanchateau Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 I think Rae will face an uphill battle. What are your objections to Dion other than he's a Liberal? Why do I see Dion as easy to beat for the Conservatives? The tough to understand English hurts him on the campaign trail. (While it worked for le petit 'gar, it doesn't work for a university professor to speak the most common offical language in the country so poorly.) He isn't well liked in his home province. He has very little appeal to centrist Canadians. He is the only serious candidate who is truly less charismatic than Harper. I agree with you completely on the first and third points. On the second point, true, but neither was Chretien. Unless the Liberals (or Conservatives) pick a leader who appeals to separatists, the BQ will continue to win the most seats in Quebec. On the fourth point, I disagree completely. In the one (and admittedly only) radio interview I've heard with Dion, he actually came across as having charm, insight and a sense of humour. Quote
Canuck E Stan Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 I honestly still stand behind Kennedy as the most candidate most able to make gains for the Liberals. In Ontario, he's very strong. In the West, he's strong. He's a little weaker in Quebec, ....... With Kennedy, Quebec stays as is, and Ontario is a pick up of a few... maybe a couple in Edmonchuk. I'm on side with Kennedy too,poor on the French but he's someone new and doesn't have the baggage the others have. Younger than most he has potential for more electione over the others. If round two gets bitter he may the compromise for all of them. Quote "Any man under 30 who is not a liberal has no heart, and any man over 30 who is not a conservative has no brains." — Winston Churchill
Ricki Bobbi Posted November 5, 2006 Author Report Posted November 5, 2006 I'm on side with Kennedy too,poor on the French but he's someone new and doesn't have the baggage the others have. Younger than most he has potential for more electione over the others. If round two gets bitter he may the compromise for all of them. He's far more than a 'little weaker' in Quebec. Take a look at the super weekend results excepting Quebec and Kennedy is by far the second choice. His pathetic 11 delegate sin Quebec killed him. But he's young and can spend the next six to eight years working on his French and building support in Quebec. Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
Guest Warwick Green Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 Are they really going to lose a lot of seats in Ontario with Rae? I remember the bastard because Bill 40 made my job a lot harder. But do Ontarians still remember the socialist interregnum enough to go out and vote against him?IMO, both Rae and Iggy are soiled goods and Libs are now looking at Dion and Kennedy. I don't know about that. Rae and Iggy control a majority of the delegates between them. Only on first ballot. Delegates will be deserting Iggy in droves on the second ballot. If the Libs are uncertain about another Quebecer or an "unknown" like Kennedy they may hold their noses and go for Rae but Iggy is done like dinner. Quote
normanchateau Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 Only on first ballot. Delegates will be deserting Iggy in droves on the second ballot. If the Libs are uncertain about another Quebecer or an "unknown" like Kennedy they may hold their noses and go for Rae but Iggy is done like dinner. For the sake of the Liberals, I hope Iggy is toast. For the Liberals to select him as leader will do them as much harm as the Cons did to themselves in selecting Harper. Quote
Ricki Bobbi Posted November 5, 2006 Author Report Posted November 5, 2006 Only on first ballot. Delegates will be deserting Iggy in droves on the second ballot. If the Libs are uncertain about another Quebecer or an "unknown" like Kennedy they may hold their noses and go for Rae but Iggy is done like dinner. I don't know if a lot will be deserting Iggy, but he doesn't have much room for growth. IF Kennedy appears to have any momentum going into the second, or subsequent, ballot look for the Quebec delegation en masse to form their own quelqu'un mais Kennedy movement.... Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
Guest Warwick Green Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 Only on first ballot. Delegates will be deserting Iggy in droves on the second ballot. If the Libs are uncertain about another Quebecer or an "unknown" like Kennedy they may hold their noses and go for Rae but Iggy is done like dinner. For the sake of the Liberals, I hope Iggy is toast. For the Liberals to select him as leader will do them as much harm as the Cons did to themselves in selecting Harper. If they do elect Iggy and he emulates Harper, presumably he will become PM. Quote
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