Rise Up We Are Canadian!

RScott · September 30, 2003

Canadians are all one big herd of sheep!. We are so passive on government and large corporate policies!!!

We accept things as they are, yeah we moan and drip a bit and bahhhhhhhhh when it hurts a little, but we soon forget and listen to the Big Mother SHEEP and like the big herd we are ACCEPT THINGS THE WAY THEY ARE!!!!!!!

Rise up I say WE ARE CANADIAN! Yeah sure BAhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!! :rolleyes:

sir_springer · September 30, 2003

As a westerner that has been waging war against the intransigence, complascency, indifference, arrogance, apathy, and downright corruption that has become the norm of our federal government for decades...

By supporting, both in time and money, a political party whose entire raison d'etre from the very beginning was to reform the political system almost entirely that has bred such destructiveness and brought this country to the very brink of ruin, both financially and politically...

I can tell you that it is not for lack of effort, political and otherwise, on the part of westerners that this country nevertheless has sunk to these depths for which one can only hang his head in shame, dispair, and disgust.

There will come a day of reckoning in which eastern Canadians will have to decide that this country has to change, to embrace equality of peoples, regions, and provinces...

Or Canada, as we know it, will exist no longer.

Nor should it.

SirRiff · September 30, 2003

There will come a day of reckoning in which eastern Canadians will have to decide that this country has to change, to embrace equality of peoples, regions, and provinces...

huh? which eastern canadians dont want equality?

i grew up in nova scotia and we were all pretty pro equality over there...

now in ontario...and we are all pretty pro equality over here...

so what gives?

Canada definately has a more moderate atmosphere then then US, but we are still moving towards the general institutionalized corruption and inefficiency that comes with all developed democracies where the wealth and power only go up.

but it seems way to big for one person to even care about. too damn vauge and abstract

i dont know why nobody ever makes it a priority to make government efficient. i mean really hiring motivated people, making pay and rewards completely transparent and public so we dont get these expense account scandels. and what the hell is it with Billions of $$ that just go missing? how the hell does that happen?

SirRiff

sir_springer · September 30, 2003

Only one political party in this country has dedicated itself to the cause of reformation of our federal government from the ground up.

And to put an end to the dispicable arrogance and disregard with which the public purse has been decimated by both the Liberals and the PCs for the last 4 decades.

The hurdle that blocks this from happening?

Easterners would rather vote for proven corrupt liars, time and again...

Then vote for a political party with western roots that would bring this neverending regime of crap and garbage to an end.

Apparently crap and garbage ain't so bad so long as power is the reward, eh?

And Ontarians, and to a slightly lesser degree Quebeccers, have the power.

Over the colonies from whom they reap their wealth.

Colonialism is alive and well...but only in Canada. The rest of the world is trying to get past it.

And I'm not kidding, either.

RScott · September 30, 2003

Only one political party in this country has dedicated itself to the cause of reformation of our federal government from the ground up.

You make a point, but all governments are corrupt and beat to their own drum. To be in goverment is to be corrupt, if your not corrupt going in you sure as hell will be before you come out.

We all agree we need change, but we won't have change untill their is a government for the people by the people, that is true democracy. But we don't have a democracy, it is a perceived democracy shoved down our throats by a socialist government.

When man wants to rule a country because he cares about the people and not for the lust of political might, self vanity and greed, maybe one day democracy will show it's true colours.

sir_springer · September 30, 2003

I would counter that ultimately people get the government they deserve.

What we now have in Canada is one huge region of the country perpetually stuck with a government they don't deserve...but are forced to endure regardless.

Why?

Because the "system" is specifically and craftly designed to keep it this way, power at the center. It is now all but impossible to amend the so-called "constitution" to change this system, for before it can be changed those with the power have to concede.

And power is rarely, if ever, conceded away, is it?

(Except, historically speaking, when staring into the business ends of a bunch of rifles or the like, eh?)

There is nothing to be gained by merely chanting that old mantra about how all politicians are corrupt and self-centered. Now and again, great politicians rise up to alter the course of history for the better...all too rare, I might agree.

If I suspected as much of the Reform/CA, I would not be a supporter.

On the other hand, if one is looking for "perfection", one will find it in the dictionary somewhere between "pedantic" and "petty".

Perfection does not exist, for politics by its very definition is about people, with all their weaknesses and imperfections.

If you want change, then go to work for that political entity that truly is offering change.

And if you want the status quo, then work for those who promise to maintain it...or do nothing, same difference.

People continue to vote Liberal because they fear change...or in this case, because they listen to those who will move mountains to maintain the status quo, which favors them. And they will use whatever means at their disposal, most effective of all, fear.

So they call Stock Day a "scary social conservative", who is bound to inflict his personal views based upon his religion on the entire country.

Or they cause people to wonder about Manning's religious views. Apparently Catholics don't have religious views, or so it is inferred.

Or they dig up nine second sound bites about "firewalls" and paint murals of speculation and doubt about Harper...even though he was suggesting for Alberta not one iota more than Quebec already enjoys.

And so it goes on and on...

And easterners say, "That Reform/CA/Stock Day/Manning/Harper" is too scary for me...even though they have not one fricking clue about what they speak, other than what the Liberal's mutts in the media have told them to believe.

The enemy, my friend, is apathy.

And from where I sit, the apathy amongst eastern Canadians is by all appearances, staggering and thoroughly incomprehensible.

I am not exagerating one bit when I tell you that people out here wonder endlessly as to just exactly what...if anything at all...is going on in the heads of easterners. Just how bad does it have to get before the rest of this country finally wakes up to the reality of it all?

It is truly remarkable, I kid you not.

Craig Read · October 1, 2003

Good post.

We all agree we need change, but we won't have change untill their is a government for the people by the people, that is true democracy. But we don't have a democracy, it is a perceived democracy shoved down our throats by a socialist government

As one Economist put it, in Canada, the sheep mentality means that private initiative, individualism and especially profits are BAAAAAD.

Pre 1965 we had less gov't than the Americans. Maybe ask Grand-Dad if he felt 'less' Canadian then, then he does now with huge gov't, big debt and suffocating taxes.

I doubt it.