B. Max Posted October 29, 2006 Report Posted October 29, 2006 A word of advise for Israel. Watch your back, looks like you might have to build a few more nukes. http://www.stangoodenough.com/2006/10/27/i...re-jews-stupid/ Quote
jbg Posted October 29, 2006 Report Posted October 29, 2006 A word of advise for Israel. Watch your back, looks like you might have to build a few more nukes.http://www.stangoodenough.com/2006/10/27/i...re-jews-stupid/ I have always had great hopes for the connection of Jews to Canada since my days, in 1967-8, having a delightful Hebrew School teacher from Montreal. It's great, finally, to see a country get out ahead of the US in supporting Israel. Stephen Harper has shown unmatched courage in this regard. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
Rue Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 I have consistently defended Israel on this forum against quite a few posters. I have volunteered in Israel. But sorry on this issue, myself like many Jews and non-Jews, believe, for their to be a comprehensive peace settlement in the Middle East between Palestinians and Israelis, there will need to be a 2 state solution. I think its unrealistic to believe Jewish settlers can continue to live in the West Bank. No I doubt any non-Jew gives a damn about history and the fact that Jews originate from Judea and Somaria and it was seized from them, etc. No they don't care. But I am not talking about past history. I am talking today in the present tense from a purely practical and pragmatic point of view. Palestinians have to live in their own country, its inevitable, and part of it has to be the West Bank. The presence of settlers in the West Bank only exasperates tension and gives terrorists an excuse and pretext to engage in violence. Sorry I respectfully disagree with anyone who feels the settlers remaining in the West Bank is going to do anything but add fuel tot he fire. As I also understand the majority of Israelis polled agreed that settlers should be removed as part of any comprehensive peace solution and Sharon made it clear he was willing to do just that. Quote
Higgly Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 I have always had great hopes for the connection of Jews to Canada since my days, in 1967-8, having a delightful Hebrew School teacher from Montreal. It's great, finally, to see a country get out ahead of the US in supporting Israel. Stephen Harper has shown unmatched courage in this regard. Harper is clueless when it comes to the Middle East. His policy is driven by the desperate need to get votes in Toronto (where he has been shut out) and to get funding for the Conservative Party. He is part of the problem, not the solution. Canadians are not as dumb as he thinks. Quote "We have seen the enemy and he is us!". Pogo (Walt Kelly).
ft.niagara Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 Harper is clueless when it comes to the Middle East. His policy is driven by the desperate need to get votes in Toronto (where he has been shut out) and to get funding for the Conservative Party. He is part of the problem, not the solution. What is the problem? What is the solution? Do you know? What is wrong with tailoring your policies to the people you want to vote for you? Any dips@it would do the same, including you. Quote
Higgly Posted November 5, 2006 Report Posted November 5, 2006 Harper is clueless when it comes to the Middle East. His policy is driven by the desperate need to get votes in Toronto (where he has been shut out) and to get funding for the Conservative Party. He is part of the problem, not the solution. What is the problem? What is the solution? Do you know? What is wrong with tailoring your policies to the people you want to vote for you? Any dips@it would do the same, including you. Canadians have repeatedly shown in polls that they want a neutral stand on the Middle East. The pro-Israel community is very, very loud but smaller than those who disagree with it. Canadians in general do not favour one side or the other. They believe that Canada can best serve the interests of peace by staying neutral. Harper is misguided on the issue. Quote "We have seen the enemy and he is us!". Pogo (Walt Kelly).
B. Max Posted November 5, 2006 Author Report Posted November 5, 2006 Harper is clueless when it comes to the Middle East. His policy is driven by the desperate need to get votes in Toronto (where he has been shut out) and to get funding for the Conservative Party. He is part of the problem, not the solution. Canadians are not as dumb as he thinks. Actually I think far to many are even dumber than he thinks. Quote
lost&outofcontrol Posted November 8, 2006 Report Posted November 8, 2006 ... No I doubt any non-Jew gives a damn about history and the fact that Jews originate from Judea and Somaria and it was seized from them, etc. No they don't care... By holding this position Canadians should give back Canada to Aboriginal Peoples, right? Most of Africa should be given back to actual Africans, right? Quote
jbg Posted November 10, 2006 Report Posted November 10, 2006 ... No I doubt any non-Jew gives a damn about history and the fact that Jews originate from Judea and Somaria and it was seized from them, etc. No they don't care... By holding this position Canadians should give back Canada to Aboriginal Peoples, right? Most of Africa should be given back to actual Africans, right? Then you agree that the Israelis' supplantation of the so-called "Palestinians" was not wrong? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
lost&outofcontrol Posted November 10, 2006 Report Posted November 10, 2006 By holding this position Canadians should give back Canada to Aboriginal Peoples, right? Most of Africa should be given back to actual Africans, right? Then you agree that the Israelis' supplantation of the so-called "Palestinians" was not wrong? Short answer - On the surface I think it is incorrect for one "People" to supplant another through force. Long answer - If we go back far enough, we are not indigenous to any geographical area outside of Africa, but we create propertied geographical areas once we establish the notion of private property. This leads to the separation of the outside world as being one [and we being a product of reality and not the idealist reverse] into being what is mine and what is yours. Quote
JerrySeinfeld Posted November 10, 2006 Report Posted November 10, 2006 This forum is getting lame. Why can't someone start a good thread. Quote
jbg Posted November 11, 2006 Report Posted November 11, 2006 This forum is getting lame. Why can't someone start a good thread. I have started plenty of them. They have a way of being ignored. Maybe you have me on "ignore", Jerry. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
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