Rallies across country urge Ottawa to bring troops home from Afghanist

[watching&waiting]

What ever the number, it was not very large and I am glad to se that we do not have a large numbers of Traitors here in Canada. Since they are so unhappy with the ways of life and the choices our government makes, they should pack up and move to a country they feel better about. Instead they decide to publically display their own views and draw as much attention to it as possible. This not only harms our own troops morale but it emboldens the insurgecy to do more attacks and possibly kill more of our soldiers. Great job people. You really make Canada proud right?

Just as everyone on this site has an opinion of the posters and their own agendas or non agendas, I am sure that by now once again it has been made clear, just how badly this has decended to. I wonder some time at what will the next low be, and then again it will appear. It is no longer funny, being a traitor is not something that one can shed so easily. I suggest that we all just ignore him completely, and that way he will sooner or later just go away.

[jbg]

And these protestors apparently don't value what gives them the freedom to spout their drivel.

[Argus]

Looks like a good place for a machine gun.

I know you don't mean that and would be horrified if it happened, so why say it?

C'mon gerry, they're all leftwing radicals.

What they mostly are are well-meaning fools. Most are not really up on what's going on. Most have simplistic beliefs and simplistic answers without nuance. "We should only be peacekeepers" they whine, even though that era has long-passed, and we haven't really been peacekeepers for many, many years. Military leaders have said repeatedly, most recently the lionised Romeo Dallaire, that the era of smiling, blue-hatted peackeepers ended long ago.

But these people, ignorant of the world, still have stars in their eyes and still want to see us as these tall, noble, shining examples of peaceful intervention. Our mere presence will stop war as all about us stop to gaze on us with awe and admiration. They're horrified by militarism, by Canadians actually shooting at people. They seem to believe that we just need to talk with them, be understanding, and all will be settled.

Like I said, they're well-meaning, but no one would ever allow such people to make important decisions.

[B. Max]

Looks like a good place for a machine gun

I know you don't mean that and would be horrified if it happened, so why say it?

Of course I didn't mean it literally, but I explained that in an earlier post.

[gerryhatrick]

What ever the number, it was not very large and I am glad to se that we do not have a large numbers of Traitors here in Canada.

It's unfortunate that anyone would want to call someone expressing their views on this issue a "traitor".

Those people are Canadians and they make me proud, regardless of their opinions on the mission.

[gerryhatrick]

Of course I didn't mean it literally, but I explained that in an earlier post.

Oh that's right, you meant it as an "expression of contempt". That makes it Ok then to suggest a machine gun be taken to an event....cause you were just sayin....well what you meant was.....not a literal machine gun, huh?

You're not tuned in very well to what is acceptable and what is not.

[Ricki Bobbi]

Oh that's right, you meant it as an "expression of contempt". That makes it Ok then to suggest a machine gun be taken to an event....cause you were just sayin....well what you meant was.....not a literal machine gun, huh?

You're not tuned in very well to what is acceptable and what is not.

So you mean it literally when you tell people to f*ck off here?

Do you really feel you are in a position to be lecturing people on what is acceptable and what is not???

[gerryhatrick]

Oh that's right, you meant it as an "expression of contempt". That makes it Ok then to suggest a machine gun be taken to an event....cause you were just sayin....well what you meant was.....not a literal machine gun, huh?

You're not tuned in very well to what is acceptable and what is not.

So you mean it literally when you tell people to f*ck off here?

Are you inferring that it's equally unacceptable for BMax to threaten large groups of people with a machine gun as it is for me to tell some prick who accuses me of wanting Canada to lose in Afghanistan to #$%K off?

I'll never give up my right to lecture people on the internet when they invoke violence against others Ricki, regardless of how many times you want to bring up the fact that I used profanity on the board. Sorry to disappoint.

[Canuck E Stan]

Recriutment is up twice what it was last year, what's the message here?

Afghan mission not deterring recruitment

[B. Max]

Are you inferring that it's equally unacceptable for BMax to threaten large groups of people with a machine gun as it is for me to tell some prick who accuses me of wanting Canada to lose in Afghanistan to #$%K off?

I'll never give up my right to lecture people on the internet when they invoke violence against others Ricki, regardless of how many times you want to bring up the fact that I used profanity on the board. Sorry to disappoint.

Just more of the same nonsense we've come to expect from you.

[Canadian Blue]

Are you inferring that it's equally unacceptable for BMax to threaten large groups of people with a machine gun as it is for me to tell some prick who accuses me of wanting Canada to lose in Afghanistan to #$%K off?

I'll never give up my right to lecture people on the internet when they invoke violence against others Ricki, regardless of how many times you want to bring up the fact that I used profanity on the board. Sorry to disappoint.

Considering that they wouldn't have that freedom in North Korea, Iran, or Afghanistan before Canadian troops went in it would be a rude awakening for them. As for being proud about what their doing, I feel proud for people who are protesting for a JUST cause, not protesting out of complete ignorance to what were doing in Afghanistan. As for them supporting the troops, I've heard so many of these anti-war types talking about how its an illegal [keep in mind UN sanctioned] war. I also hear too many people talking about charging Canadian soldiers for war crimes for simply being in Afghanistan. Taliban Jack is completely out of it, especially when the Taliban refuses to negotiate with the Afghan government, yet his still says we ought to negotiate.

"Hands off North Korea and Iran!!!" Yet another example of protesters general ignorance about the world around them. Perhaps they would prefer rogue states witha STELLAR reputation have ICBM's that could hit North America and Isreal.

[cybercoma]

"we're putting ten times as much into the military side as we are into aid, and we now have famine and real problems spreading in Afghanistan," he told the crowd through the rain.

"It's time for Canada to take a new path."

It's a little difficult to send in aid and stop famine when you have enemy combatants who attack aid workers, ambulances and anything else that moves. Afghanistan needs to be secured by Afghanis and since they're largely uneducated it's going to take a hell of a long time to teach them what they need to know to do that.

It's time for Jack Layton to pull his head out of his rectum.

[B. Max]

It's time for Jack Layton to pull his head out of his rectum.

I don't know if cat makes a big enough bulldozer for that.

[gerryhatrick]

Are you inferring that it's equally unacceptable for BMax to threaten large groups of people with a machine gun as it is for me to tell some prick who accuses me of wanting Canada to lose in Afghanistan to #$%K off?

I'll never give up my right to lecture people on the internet when they invoke violence against others Ricki, regardless of how many times you want to bring up the fact that I used profanity on the board. Sorry to disappoint.

Considering that they wouldn't have that freedom in North Korea, Iran, or Afghanistan before Canadian troops went in it would be a rude awakening for them.

Why do you bring up the fact that we have the freedom to gather in the street to express our views?

Is that somehow relavent to BMax's threat of violence against Canadian citizens?

None of his fellow rightwingers around here condemn him for his remark, which speaks volumes I suppose.

If I suggested a machine gun should be taken to a Conservative Caucus meeting there would be howls of protest from at least one poster who seems to reserve his outrage only for those whose politics he disagrees with. If any posters who I knew were center or center-left made any such comment I would immediately condemn them for it.

And you see a threat of violence as just an opportunity to give us some gobbldygook about how the people threatened wouldn't have the same freedoms elsewhere.

[Canadian Blue]

It's not a threat of violence. Really get over yourself. But I think alot of people find that those protestors are ignorant, and do undermind our troops be saying were involved in an illegal war and saying that troops should be charged with war crimes.

GH, didn't you say you wanted to ethnically cleanse conservatives?

[gerryhatrick]

It's not a threat of violence. Really get over yourself.

Looks like a good place for a machine gun.

Looks like a threat of violence to me. Pretty clear, actually.

GH, didn't you say you wanted to ethnically cleanse conservatives?

Not even near it.

[jbg]

What ever the number, it was not very large and I am glad to se that we do not have a large numbers of Traitors here in Canada.

It's unfortunate that anyone would want to call someone expressing their views on this issue a "traitor".

Those people are Canadians and they make me proud, regardless of their opinions on the mission.

Traitors, because they are giving aid and comfort to the enemy, radical Islam.

[Canadian Blue]

GH when we find out that he had brought a C7 out to a rally and shot up some people then I'll believe you. If you feel threatened call the RCMP. Do you scream bloody murder anytime somebody makes a comment like that. Besides your not a police officer, or a lawyer for that matter so its not up to you to decide thank god. Alot of people are pissed off at these protesters who seem to side with the Taliban over our own Canadian soldiers based on their complete ignorance of the situation.

Sure it was an innapropriate thing to say, but I'm not going to cry about something continously instead of talk about that actual issue. Have you even said what you would rather have Canda do in Afghanistan?

[Canuck E Stan]

Aparently Master Jack had a dream about Afganistan...and speaking with the Taliban leader Mullah Omar.

Jack's Taliban Dream

[gerryhatrick]

GH when we find out that he had brought a C7 out to a rally and shot up some people then I'll believe you.

So until a threat is carried out it's not a threat? Nonsense.

If you feel threatened call the RCMP.

I don't feel threatened. I do, however, see the comment as a threat. As would any unbiased person. Commenting that a rally would be a "good place for a machine gun" is obviously nothing less.

That kind of comment is not what Canada or any democracy is about. I have pity for the broken mind that would invoke such a hateful spectre of violence against his fellow citizens.

[B. Max]

I don't feel threatened. I do, however, see the comment as a threat. As would any unbiased person. Commenting that a rally would be a "good place for a machine gun" is obviously nothing less.

That kind of comment is not what Canada or any democracy is about. I have pity for the broken mind that would invoke such a hateful spectre of violence against his fellow citizens.

Quit your whinning gerry, and grow up.

[gerryhatrick]

I don't feel threatened. I do, however, see the comment as a threat. As would any unbiased person. Commenting that a rally would be a "good place for a machine gun" is obviously nothing less.

That kind of comment is not what Canada or any democracy is about. I have pity for the broken mind that would invoke such a hateful spectre of violence against his fellow citizens.

Quit your whinning gerry, and grow up.

The poster who thinks Global Warming is a socialist hoax and that a machine gun would be a good item to take to an anti-war rally is telling me to grow up.

Quite my whining? How about you quit your insane ramblings first.

[Canadian Blue]

That kind of comment is not what Canada or any democracy is about. I have pity for the broken mind that would invoke such a hateful spectre of violence against his fellow citizens.

GH, I hear plenty of people make those comments all the time especially about those protesters. I've heard people make much worse comments. The reason why people say it is probably out of irony more then anything else. They are protesting against what we are doing, yet if it wasn't for our soldiers they would probably be living in a dictatorship.

Get what I'm saying, its nothing new.

I don't feel threatened. I do, however, see the comment as a threat. As would any unbiased person. Commenting that a rally would be a "good place for a machine gun" is obviously nothing less.

Then call up the RCMP and immediatly tell them about this threat, its your duty as a citizen. If your not willing to call the police then it obviously isn't all that harmful, and I doubt were gonna see the member gun down a crowd of people.

Despite the fact that they probablty would be gunned down in the countries they are rooting for which is North Korea or Iran if they ever showed signs of descent.

[gerryhatrick]

That kind of comment is not what Canada or any democracy is about. I have pity for the broken mind that would invoke such a hateful spectre of violence against his fellow citizens.

GH, I hear plenty of people make those comments all the time especially about those protesters. I've heard people make much worse comments. The reason why people say it is probably out of irony more then anything else. They are protesting against what we are doing, yet if it wasn't for our soldiers they would probably be living in a dictatorship.

Get what I'm saying, its nothing new.

It's irrelavent that you claim to have heard people make "those comments", which is to threaten violence, all the time. It makes it no less despicable.

[Canadian Blue]

It may be despicable, but he has a right to say it. You might not agree with such an extreme expression but thats how some people express their opinion. I doubt the member would seriously enjoy gunning down protesters, he just is angry as hell at them. To tell you the truth so am I, they are completely ignorant about what were doing and what 42 Canadian's died for. They think this is an illegal war, even though it was sanctioned by the UN, they think were committing war crimes even though we follow strict ROE's. As well having signs saying "Hands off Iran and North Korea" doesn't really help them out either. Would protesters rather see those regimes with nuclear weapons. Especially since Iran wants to wipe Israel off the earth.

You get my point...

Theirs much worse been said, I wouldn't mind shipping them to Iran or North Korea for a month so they can see what its like to live in one of those regimes. Especially Jack Layton, then he'll soon find out what REAL human rights abuses are.