Tory Mps That Support Merger

westcoast99 · September 26, 2003

Tory MPs against a merger with the Alliance:

Edited August 11, 2015 by Gugsy

Neal.F. · September 26, 2003

Politics makes starnge bedfellows, doesn't it? Elsie Wayne arch so-con on the same team as Scott Brison and Andre Bachand, and Jolly Joe himself the three most notorious social Liberals in caucus.

I suspect that Gary Schellenberger's objection results from the bitterly contested by-election that he won. There was some serious mudslinging between his and Marian Meinen's respective camps.

I suspect Elsie's case is all about brand loyalty.

Unfortunately this is one oif the few matters on which I disagree with her. her opposition only helps to ensure the ultimate burial of the conservative movement in Canada, as many will come to terms with the Liberals at that point, which will result in more left liberals leavingby the back door and votinmg for the NDP, and ensuring that what's left of the alliance after the next election is third, or even 4th party. Imagine Jack LAyton as leader of Her Majesty's Loyal opposition!!!!

The Tories are at the point where if they go it alone, they will lose party status, and perhaps face complete obliteration. A pyrrhic victory for the Alliance.

I Think Brison and Clark are lost causes. Clark doesn't matter anyway, since he's retiring. Cal center will go to Jim prentice, a pro-merger candidate. Like the other JC, it would be best for all if he retire sooner rather than later.

Brison and Svend should statrt a new party: The rainbow coalition.

Bachand will have to see the light sooner or later. If he defects to the lieberals, he might get re-elected, he would do well to remember , however, that the major reason he squeaked back in again, was because he didn't pull a Price/StJacques/Harvey move and sell his soul for the govt. backbenches. jean Charest, the man on whose coattails he rode into office , might be helpful in persuading him to stay. After all if Keith Martin has a place in the CA, Bachand will survive as an MP for the new entity.

As for the undecideds, the only one who I think MIGHT be a problem is pro-gay/proabort Rick Borotsik. Both Mssrs Thompson and Doyle are pro-life.

The bottom line is, it's either dance together or hang together.

Rob1963 · September 26, 2003

I think you will find that REX Barnes, John Herron, nad Gerald Keddy are not in favour. Where did you get your info?

westcoast99 · September 26, 2003

He endorsed Prentice at the Tory convention and has been quoted as saying "If we're going to defeat the Liberals, we need co-operation among the right very quickly."

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Neal.F. · September 26, 2003

Let's put it this way.... if they are NOT pro merger, then whether they realize it or not, they are pro-Liberal.

And Pro-one-party-rule.

The PCs either have to merge, or be wiped out. It is certain they will Not keep party status against martin, in their current financial state, and it is possible they may actuallty lose every single seat they have.

BOth Parties have something the other needs, the giving of which ensures not only survival, but under the right leader possibly government.

If they do not get it together, the PCs will be obliterated, and the CA probably reduced.