jdobbin Posted August 24, 2006 Report Posted August 24, 2006 http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/ed...dd-cfa0382fc324 Looks like the "waiting times guarantee" that was promised during the election has just vanished. Didn't the Conservatives say the Liberals had passed the buck to the provinces during the election? Hmm. Quote
jbg Posted August 24, 2006 Report Posted August 24, 2006 http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/ed...dd-cfa0382fc324Looks like the "waiting times guarantee" that was promised during the election has just vanished. Didn't the Conservatives say the Liberals had passed the buck to the provinces during the election? Hmm. Health is supposed to be a provincial responsibility, from what little I know about Canada (remember I'm an ignorant Yank). Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
jdobbin Posted August 24, 2006 Author Report Posted August 24, 2006 Health is supposed to be a provincial responsibility, from what little I know about Canada (remember I'm an ignorant Yank). This is what some Liberals argued during the election. But the Conservatives made it an election promise anyways. Quote
Ricki Bobbi Posted August 24, 2006 Report Posted August 24, 2006 It is a provincial responsibility. The only way the Feds have power in the area is if the provinces and territories insist on taking Federal money for health care. Which they all do... Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
jdobbin Posted August 24, 2006 Author Report Posted August 24, 2006 It is a provincial responsibility. The only way the Feds have power in the area is if the provinces and territories insist on taking Federal money for health care. Which they all do... There was a fund provided by the federal government to help pay for things like MRI equipment but too many hospitals did stupid things like buy snowblowers and the like. I thought during the election that it was a stupid promise to make and now a conservative paper has finally called them on it. The provinces will continue to cry about waiting lists and money but every time they get access to money, they often don't use to break the logjam. Quote
Ricki Bobbi Posted August 24, 2006 Report Posted August 24, 2006 They definitely did get called on the promise, but it was about as easily as the Post could have gone on them. At least the National Post isn't getting huge sums of public money to advance their agenda .... *cough* *cough*. What national news outlet am I thinking of? I thought during the election that it was a stupid promise to make and now a conservative paper has finally called them on it. Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
jbg Posted August 24, 2006 Report Posted August 24, 2006 They definitely did get called on the promise, but it was about as easily as the Post could have gone on them.At least the National Post isn't getting huge sums of public money to advance their agenda .... *cough* *cough*. What national news outlet am I thinking of? I'm not a Canadian, but just guessing.............. The CBC? Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
jdobbin Posted August 24, 2006 Author Report Posted August 24, 2006 They definitely did get called on the promise, but it was about as easily as the Post could have gone on them.At least the National Post isn't getting huge sums of public money to advance their agenda .... *cough* *cough*. What national news outlet am I thinking of? You'd still have the liberal media to complain about that is also protected through ownership restrictions and magazine mail subsidies. Quote
Ricki Bobbi Posted August 25, 2006 Report Posted August 25, 2006 What are you saying? Seriously, I don't get your point at all. Has anybody here actually complained about ownership restrictions and mail subsidies being used to advance an agenda? I *know* I haven't made that argument anywhere here. A little support for statements like that would be nice. You'd still have the liberal media to complain about that is also protected through ownership restrictions and magazine mail subsidies. Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
jdobbin Posted August 25, 2006 Author Report Posted August 25, 2006 What are you saying?Seriously, I don't get your point at all. Has anybody here actually complained about ownership restrictions and mail subsidies being used to advance an agenda? I *know* I haven't made that argument anywhere here. A little support for statements like that would be nice. Didn't say anybody here was complaining about ownership restrictions and postal subsidies. But CTV and Global which has been criticized as being too liberal as well have been protected by ownership restrictions. These networks argue for CBC to be cut while they stay protected. If the Conservatives intend to cut the CBC, they may as well go after the whole media industry. Quote
Ricki Bobbi Posted August 25, 2006 Report Posted August 25, 2006 Where are you seeing these criticisms? Aren't the CTV and Global just asking for a level playing field? One set of rules to apply to all? Is there something wrong with the rules being the same for everybody? Didn't say anybody here was complaining about ownership restrictions and postal subsidies. But CTV and Global which has been criticized as being too liberal as well have been protected by ownership restrictions. These networks argue for CBC to be cut while they stay protected.If the Conservatives intend to cut the CBC, they may as well go after the whole media industry. Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
jdobbin Posted August 25, 2006 Author Report Posted August 25, 2006 Where are you seeing these criticisms?Aren't the CTV and Global just asking for a level playing field? One set of rules to apply to all? Is there something wrong with the rules being the same for everybody? Both networks have been criticized by Conservatives in recent months in regards the press gallery problems. CTV and Global are not asking for a level playing field. They want CBC to drop commercials, be forced out of sports and news, have their funding cut or the network dropped altogether. And for themselves, they want Canadian content eliminated and ownership restrictions dropped so they can sell their networks. This is what Asper asked for at the last CRTC meetings. Quote
Ricki Bobbi Posted August 25, 2006 Report Posted August 25, 2006 Sources for any of these? It's easy to spread innuendo like these without support. Can't really debate, what you have *heard* or *read* without hearing or reading it myself. Both networks have been criticized by Conservatives in recent months in regards the press gallery problems.CTV and Global are not asking for a level playing field. They want CBC to drop commercials, be forced out of sports and news, have their funding cut or the network dropped altogether. And for themselves, they want Canadian content eliminated and ownership restrictions dropped so they can sell their networks. This is what Asper asked for at the last CRTC meetings. Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
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