The Media Is Lefty

[lost&outofcontrol]

Oh I'm not arguing that the media isn't bias. I'm arguging you don't have to watch it if you don't like it. There is news for everyone in this country.

But there isn't. We are all fed the same crap with little to no variance in news reporting. It's all the same old crap hidden behind a shroud of "unbiased" journalism. There is barely any difference between the major news outlet from Fox news, cbs, bbc etc... Almost no(or barely a blurb) news outlet carried the Chicago protest from last week. Did you know that over 200 000 people showed up? Did you know that 2 British soldiers were caught by Iraqi police in "Arab" clothing with a car full of explosives. The British military had to rescue them by busting in. Did you know that there are reports of Iraqi taxi drivers getting pulled over at check points for "inspection" just to get their cars back with explosives strapped to the under side of their cars ? (obviously most of my stories are from a leftist vantage point but I'm sure you could find stories from the other side)

We only get to see a small part of the spectrum. Not because the authorities force it on us but because (insert controversial images & story here) might offend certain people and lose ratings(and money) to a competitor.

I want the journalist to attack Bush or John Kerry and I want them to tell me why. I'll make my own decision on who to believe. I want news channels to be communist-libertarian-conservative-liberal-facist-anarchist.

My two lefty cents + a rant

[geoffrey]

If you know all of this, then obviously the information is available.

[lost&outofcontrol]

If you know all of this, then obviously the information is available.

Most people don't go hunting for news from obscure websites, they stick to the main news channels.

[geoffrey]

If you know all of this, then obviously the information is available.

Most people don't go hunting for news from obscure websites, they stick to the main news channels.

And thats our responsibility to spoon feed them what they want to hear why?

[lost&outofcontrol]

And thats our responsibility to spoon feed them what they want to hear why?

No, it is the responsibility of the news channels to actually report the news, not only what they want us to hear.

Did you read my little rant ?!

[Riverwind]

No, it is the responsibility of the news channels to actually report the news, not only what they want us to hear.

News channels have one responsibility: make money for their shareholders. If that goal can be accomplished by reporting news in certain ways then they will do that. A public broadcaster is a little better because it does not have the profit motive, however, even a public broadcaster has to deal with a different set of biases.

[JerrySeinfeld]

No, it is the responsibility of the news channels to actually report the news, not only what they want us to hear.

News channels have one responsibility: make money for their shareholders. If that goal can be accomplished by reporting news in certain ways then they will do that. A public broadcaster is a little better because it does not have the profit motive, however, even a public broadcaster has to deal with a different set of biases.

It's a little different when you hide under the guise of objectivity but secretly share your biases with all of your colleagues behind the scenes.

Face it. The newsmedia is, by and large, leftist propaganda.

Then when one or two stations sprouts up to spit into the extremely strong lefty wind (ie. Fox), they get lambasted by the left as extremist and biased.

What a joke.

[BubberMiley]

Face it. The newsmedia is, by and large, leftist propaganda.

Why do you suppose the multinationals that own the media would use it as a leftist propaganda tool?

And on a local note, why do reporters repeatedly go to right-wing organs like the Canadian Taxpayers Federation and the Frontier Centre for Public Policy for comment on stories but never equivalent left-wing organizations?

[JerrySeinfeld]

Face it. The newsmedia is, by and large, leftist propaganda.

Why do you suppose the multinationals that own the media would use it as a leftist propaganda tool?

And on a local note, why do reporters repeatedly go to right-wing organs like the Canadian Taxpayers Federation and the Frontier Centre for Public Policy for comment on stories but never equivalent left-wing organizations?

I dunno - ask George Clooney, Michael Moore, Stephen Spieberg.....lol they all work with Multinationals too. Doesn't seem to affect the lefty propaganda they spew.

[BubberMiley]

They all make movies that put bums in seats which make money. Things that make money attract investment.

How is a left-leaning news source more profitable than a moderate or right-leaning news source. Are the masses a bunch of enraged socialists that demand bias?

[JerrySeinfeld]

They all make movies that put bums in seats which make money. Things that make money attract investment.

How is a left-leaning news source more profitable than a moderate or right-leaning news source. Are the masses a bunch of enraged socialists that demand bias?

So you agree that as long as you sell papers and get viewers the big bad "multinationals" don't care?

If that's your comment then your previous comment about multinationals has no merit whatsoever.

Try to stay consistent.

[BubberMiley]

I think money trumps ideology every time. Explain why it would be profitable for them to forgo their ideology to offer news coverage that is biased to the left.

[JerrySeinfeld]

I think money trumps ideology every time. Explain why it would be profitable for them to forego their ideology offer news coverage that is biased to the left.

If you think the board of directors of General Electric sits around and puts forth an agenda for NBC news you're living in a dreamworld.

You said it yourself, its the bottom line that matters. The chairman of GE has no interest in Matt Lauer's politics as long as people like his face and flip it to NBC every morning.

There is a blurred line between "news" and "entertainment" in the western countries. Newstypes hobnob with hollywood types all the time.

Now if you're telling me hollywood isn't one of the biggest cesspools or lefty "progressive" bias around, then you're definitely even more delusional than I thought.

[BubberMiley]

If you think the board of directors of General Electric sits around and puts forth an agenda for NBC news you're living in a dreamworld.

I think corporations always hire people to represent their interests, and their primary interest is making money. Socialism isn't profitable and therefore wouldn't be and isn't promoted.

You said it yourself, its the bottom line that matters. The chairman of GE has no interest in Matt Lauer's politics as long as people like his face and flip it to NBC every morning.

Matt Lauer? You mean the host of the Today Show? Doesn't he exclusively cover soccer mom stories?

Now if you're telling me hollywood isn't one of the biggest cesspools or lefty "progressive" bias around, then you're definitely even more delusional than I thought.

Actually all I said was Hollywood is out to make money. You projected the rest--the first stage of dementia.

[JerrySeinfeld]

If you think the board of directors of General Electric sits around and puts forth an agenda for NBC news you're living in a dreamworld.

I think corporations always hire people to represent their interests, and their primary interest is making money. Socialism isn't profitable and therefore wouldn't be and isn't promoted.

You said it yourself, its the bottom line that matters. The chairman of GE has no interest in Matt Lauer's politics as long as people like his face and flip it to NBC every morning.

Matt Lauer? You mean the host of the Today Show? Doesn't he exclusively cover soccer mom stories?

Now if you're telling me hollywood isn't one of the biggest cesspools or lefty "progressive" bias around, then you're definitely even more delusional than I thought.

Actually all I said was Hollywood is out to make money. You projected the rest--the first stage of dementia.

Your lefty conspiracy theory doesn't hold water.

The movies and newsmedia are mostly small pieces of large publically owned corporations. They are left leaning.

'nuff said.

[BubberMiley]

What lefty conspiracy theory? That corporations are interested in making money? Uou just pull debate points out of a hat: conspiracy theory, delusional, etc. They don't need to be relevant, I guess. You're right. That is enough said.

[Montgomery Burns]

Riverwind:

2) Most people who take the time to investigate the issues end up supporting Democrats because the Democrat position on the issues makes the most sense when the propganda is discarded and the facts are considered.

The Funniest Quip of the Day™.

If only those dumb flukey Americans would take the time to investigate the issues, then they wouldn't have voted Republican in 5 of the last 7 presidential elections.

Typical leftist elitest arrogance.

So out of touch...that's why the Democrats have a fetish for polls. Makes them feel better than voting day.

[Riverwind]

If only those dumb flukey Americans would take the time to investigate the issues, then they wouldn't have voted Republican in 5 of the last 7 presidential elections.

Does not mean much. A large number of people in the US don't care about most issues and would happily vote for Bezulbub if he promised to cut taxes and ban abortion.

To me fair, those kinds of voters exist in Canada to but they tend to vote Liberal.

[Montgomery Burns]

I think money trumps ideology every time. Explain why it would be profitable for them to forgo their ideology to offer news coverage that is biased to the left.

It is the liberal (even Marxist at times) universities who churn out these journalists. You make it sound like there are no leftwing corporations. Democrats/Liberals own/run lots of corporations. You are stereotyping by suggesting that all corporations must have a conservative/rightwing ideology.

You know that the MSM is biased to the left. You're not a dumb guy. Like Argus stated earlier, the left complains about the FNC, and that's about it. I have the FNC and it leans right but it not far-right. There are more conservative hosts than liberal hosts, but the panels are always balanced. It only seems like GOP-TV compared to the CBC, BBC, CBS, NBC, ABC, CTV, CNN, etc, who repeatedly try to paint the Bush administration in a bad light. While acknowledging the latest "controversy", the FNC tends to let the Bush administration give its side of the story.

[Riverwind]

While acknowledging the latest "controversy", the FNC tends to let the Bush administration give its side of the story.

Fox figured out that there is a niche for news targeted at people with right leaning views. That does not mean Fox is more balanced or objective - it just has a different target audience in mind.

[Montgomery Burns]

While acknowledging the latest "controversy", the FNC tends to let the Bush administration give its side of the story.

Fox figured out that there is a niche for news targeted at people with right leaning views. That does not mean Fox is more balanced or objective - it just has a different target audience in mind.

But most media studies have put the FNC closer to the centre than most of the MSM. Their panels are always balanced. You think it's balanced when you watch Chris Matthews show with its 4-liberals panel? If you haven't watched the FNC, you can still watch Fox News Sunday (morning) on your regular Fox station. Chris Wallace (Mike Wallace's son), who is center-left, hosts a panel of 2 liberals and 2 conservatives.

[geoffrey]

Fox's gets a bad rap. A few bad apples there, that have no problem showing their completely unabashed support of Bush, are all people see when they think Fox.

If all you saw of CNN was Lou Dobbs, you'd be ready to call them the Communist News Network.

I don't personally like watching Fox because their views are much like mine. I can't stand watching things I agree with, what the hell is the point. I'd much rather watch CBC where I can see and understand the other side of the issue.

I'd recommend some of those on the left do the same by watching some Fox and seeing where the others come from.

Isolating yourself among only those that agree with you is sure to lead to a stagnation of your arguments.

[lost&outofcontrol]

If all you saw of CNN was Lou Dobbs, you'd be ready to call them the Communist News Network.

There is a massive difference between someone who might lean towards the left and a communist. Lou Dobbs isn't one of them, he may be left leaning from your vantage point put at worst/best he's center right. Some of you righties have to understand that just because you're a lefty doesn't necessarily make you a commie. You can be a social Democrat, socialist, Leninist, communist, Marxist, and anarchist. Not all ideologies on the left wants the abolition of capitalism.

[geoffrey]

If all you saw of CNN was Lou Dobbs, you'd be ready to call them the Communist News Network.

There is a massive difference between someone who might lean towards the left and a communist. Lou Dobbs isn't one of them, he may be left leaning from your vantage point put at worst/best he's center right. Some of you righties have to understand that just because you're a lefty doesn't necessarily make you a commie. You can be a social Democrat, socialist, Leninist, communist, Marxist, and anarchist. Not all ideologies on the left wants the abolition of capitalism.

It was a joke. Hehe haha.

[lost&outofcontrol]

It was a joke. Hehe haha.

I know but alot of people on this board doesn't realize this.. I think. Just because you are leftist doesn't mean you're a commie nor does being on the right make you a fascist.