NDP dumps Hargrove

[geoffrey]

Some key points from "Democracy Watch" on the topic of where the money is coming from:

* the Liberal Party receives four times more money from riding associations and candidates than all the other parties combined (Bloc - $2,040 received from ridings, $0 from candidates; Conservatives - $64,986.36 from ridings, $0 from candidates; Greens - $0 from ridings, $172.97 from candidates; Liberals - $260,685.47 from ridings, $282,082.87 from candidates; NDP - $0 from ridings and candidates) and as a result, the Liberals are, in effect, hiding the identities of donors that donated 20% of their total donations until mid-2006 (because riding associations and candidates only disclose their donors once per year);

* the Liberals have many more donors donating more than $1,000 than all the other parties combined (Liberals - 141 (plus 39 groups of donors with the same family name who donated a combined total of more than $1,000; Bloc - 1; Conservatives - 36 (plus 7 groups of donors with the same family name who donated a combined total of more than $1,000); Greens - 3; NDP - 5 (plus 3 groups of donors with the same family name who donated a combined total of more than $1,000));

* the average donation to the Liberals was 3-5 times larger than the other parties (average donations were Bloc - $66.10; Conservatives - $90.23; Greens - $62.26; Liberals - $314.84, and; NDP - $64.57);

* the Conservative Party has a base of individual donors that is much larger than the other four parties (the Conservatives received donations from 28,624 individuals, 3.3 times more than the NDP (which received donations from 8,663 individuals), 5.29 times more than the Liberals (which received donations from 5,409 individuals), 15.19 times more than the Bloc (which received donations from 1,884 individuals), and 40.03 times more than the Green Party (which received donations from 715 individuals), and;

* the Conservatives raised the most money ($2,647,633.36) of any of the parties in the first three months of 2005, followed by the Liberals ($2,245,743.17); NDP ($559,352.48); Bloc ($126,577.73), and; Greens ($44,691.37).

Source: (News release: Secret 2005 party donations, Democracy Watch, May 30,2005)

[lost&outofcontrol]

Searched for this information for an hour and found nothing on topic. My understanding is that Liberals have much more to lose than either the CPC or the NDP, in fact corporate money for the Tories and union money for NDP are a surprisingly small percentage of their overall campaign donations. Both rely heavily on small individual donations under $500. Maybe someone else can confirm this.

Some key points from "Democracy Watch" on the topic of where the money is coming from:

Thx for the info guys. It's interesting if not odd that the party which has been in power for most of this century is getting contributions from less people than even the NDP ! It's also great to know that at least the conservatives and the ndp are getting most of their funds from the actual people they represent.

[tml12]

Does anybody have a % breakdown of donations from individuals/corporations/etc.. I've been trying to find that info for a while. The elections Canada website only give the breakdown per donation.

Cheers

Searched for this information for an hour and found nothing on topic. My understanding is that Liberals have much more to lose than either the CPC or the NDP, in fact corporate money for the Tories and union money for NDP are a surprisingly small percentage of their overall campaign donations. Both rely heavily on small individual donations under $500. Maybe someone else can confirm this.

That is true.

[wellandboy]

Basil whined on Canada AM this morning that this was done without talking to him first nor giving him an opportunity to defend himself. Sucks to be you, Buzz.

[tml12]

Basil whined on Canada AM this morning that this was done without talking to him first nor giving him an opportunity to defend himself. Sucks to be you, Buzz.

Layton apparently disagreed with the decision according to today's Montreal Gazette.

[Spike22]

What the hell is Buzz on anyway? By the way how do you get a name like Buzz? I had a friend nicknamed Juice and he was continually tanked. Is Buzz really buzzed 24/7? Judging by the asshole and what he has done lately he has to be. A serious crackhead.

[stignasty]

What the hell is Buzz on anyway? By the way how do you get a name like Buzz? I had a friend nicknamed Juice and he was continually tanked. Is Buzz really buzzed 24/7? Judging by the asshole and what he has done lately he has to be. A serious crackhead.

Now I remember why I rarely view these boards.

[Canuck E Stan]

The hipocrisy is evident in all parties, in that sense it is a failure on Canucks part to recognize such hipocrisy a failure to address it.

Slavik44,

First of all, the title of this thread is: NDP dumps Hargrove, Union leaders membership yanked.

Second of all,Mike Shield of the CAW said it was hypocritical of the NDP to ban Buzz(Basil)Hargrove and not Toronto Mayor David Miller,here is the quote again:

But executive member Mike Shields, a top CAW official, countered the party was acting hypocritically since other prominent NDPers had done the same thing but are not facing expulsion.

"Toronto Mayor David Miller, who is an NDP member, actively endorsed some Liberal candidates," Shields said.

This thread is not about hypocracy in all parties,it's about the NDP and Buzz.

Shields says the NDP are hypocritical in cutting his membership.

I was stressing Shield's point.

There is no failure on my part in recognizing hypocracy in all political parties.

That's not the topic on this thread.

If you think it warrrant's a thread,start one and we can discuss the issue.

In the meantime,my question is as that of Mike Shields of the CAW,why are the NDP being hypocritical in only banning Buzz and not Miller?