"Entitled to my entitlement"

[Canuck E Stan]

Dingwall gets $418,000 in settlement

The federal government has paid David Dingwall, the former president of the Royal Canadian Mint, a compensation package for his forced resignation.

The government said it is following a binding arbitration ruling by paying Dingwall, also a one-time Liberal cabinet minister, $417,780 along with associated pension benefits.

The arbitrator, George Adams, ruled Dingwall's resignation last fall was involuntary and therefore the government has a legal obligation to pay him. The Liberal government had maintained that Dingwall had resigned.

Forced Resignation? Resignation last fall was involuntary?

The slimeball managed to convince the arbitrator he didn't resign,but was forced out.Lying Liberal government told us different.

George Adams with other people's money, what a great arbitration,all completed three days before the election. :angry:

[tml12]

Dingwall gets $418,000 in settlement

The federal government has paid David Dingwall, the former president of the Royal Canadian Mint, a compensation package for his forced resignation.

The government said it is following a binding arbitration ruling by paying Dingwall, also a one-time Liberal cabinet minister, $417,780 along with associated pension benefits.

The arbitrator, George Adams, ruled Dingwall's resignation last fall was involuntary and therefore the government has a legal obligation to pay him. The Liberal government had maintained that Dingwall had resigned.

Forced Resignation? Resignation last fall was involuntary?

The slimeball managed to convince the arbitrator he didn't resign,but was forced out.Lying Liberal government told us different.

George Adams with other people's money, what a great arbitration,all completed three days before the election. :angry:

Thank goodness the Liberals are gone.

I love when Dingwall made us pay for his "therapeutic massage" in Sweden because it was meant to help him "cope with the difficulty of his long flight."

Really, though I disagree with their ideology, I respect people voting NDP. Voting Liberal? Where do Liberal voters draw the line?

[shoop]

Thank goodness indeed. Probably the best possible outcome. Had the government forced the issue Dingwall would have gone to court and it probably would have cost the government millions in court and legal fees.

Disgusting weasels like Dingwall deserve the just desserts of pure karma. He will get what he deserves one day.

Thank goodness the Liberals are gone.

I love when Dingwall made us pay for his "therapeutic massage" in Sweden because it was meant to help him "cope with the difficulty of his long flight."

Really, though I disagree with their ideology, I respect people voting NDP. Voting Liberal? Where do Liberal voters draw the line?

[tml12]

Thank goodness indeed. Probably the best possible outcome. Had the government forced the issue Dingwall would have gone to court and it probably would have cost the government millions in court and legal fees.

Disgusting weasels like Dingwall deserve the just desserts of pure karma. He will get what he deserves one day.

Thank goodness the Liberals are gone.

I love when Dingwall made us pay for his "therapeutic massage" in Sweden because it was meant to help him "cope with the difficulty of his long flight."

Really, though I disagree with their ideology, I respect people voting NDP. Voting Liberal? Where do Liberal voters draw the line?

I still don't understand why no one took into consideration the fact that the man had no credentials whatsover to be head of the Mint and take almost $600,000 in money before he leaves...this is a disgraceful blot on the history of Liberal corruption in Ottawa... :angry:

[tml12]

Thank goodness indeed. Probably the best possible outcome. Had the government forced the issue Dingwall would have gone to court and it probably would have cost the government millions in court and legal fees.

Disgusting weasels like Dingwall deserve the just desserts of pure karma. He will get what he deserves one day.

Thank goodness the Liberals are gone.

I love when Dingwall made us pay for his "therapeutic massage" in Sweden because it was meant to help him "cope with the difficulty of his long flight."

Really, though I disagree with their ideology, I respect people voting NDP. Voting Liberal? Where do Liberal voters draw the line?

I still don't understand why no one took into consideration the fact that the man had no credentials whatsover to be head of the Mint and take almost $600,000 in money before he leaves...this is a disgraceful blot on the history of Liberal corruption in Ottawa... :angry:

By the way, this is really random, but is your time zone two hours behind mine Shoop??? Because I notice your quote of my post is two hours before the time I wrote it...

[tml12]

Oh I see how this works...you are quoted in the time zone you live in.

That is very clever...apparently I am computer illiterate...

[geoffrey]

Oh I see how this works...you are quoted in the time zone you live in.

That is very clever...apparently I am computer illiterate...

I was just looking at that thinking, wow tml really is a day ahead of the rest of us.

We'll I've figured out my career path. Head some government agency, quit, and get a huge cheque. Why not?

Who needs ethics when you have entitlements?

[tml12]

Oh I see how this works...you are quoted in the time zone you live in.

That is very clever...apparently I am computer illiterate...

I was just looking at that thinking, wow tml really is a day ahead of the rest of us.

We'll I've figured out my career path. Head some government agency, quit, and get a huge cheque. Why not?

Who needs ethics when you have entitlements?

Well it is 12:40AM here so I technically am a day of you out west...

And if you get a government job, surely you'll hook me up...after all, out relationship is non-partisan all the way, right?

[geoffrey]

Oh I see how this works...you are quoted in the time zone you live in.

That is very clever...apparently I am computer illiterate...

I was just looking at that thinking, wow tml really is a day ahead of the rest of us.

We'll I've figured out my career path. Head some government agency, quit, and get a huge cheque. Why not?

Who needs ethics when you have entitlements?

Well it is 12:40AM here so I technically am a day of you out west...

And if you get a government job, surely you'll hook me up...after all, out relationship is non-partisan all the way, right?

Your French is probably way better than mine. Chances are I wouldn't even get a government job in Calgary considering how bad my French is.

[donwing]

That's enough money to cover the cost of about 322,000 packages of chewing gum or about the same amount of money a family of three on social assistance in Atlantic Canada would draw over 35* years.

http://www.atlanticcanadalive.com/content/view/12/2/

[geoffrey]

That's enough money to cover the cost of about 322,000 packages of chewing gum or about the same amount of money a family of three on social assistance in Atlantic Canada would draw over 35* years.

http://www.atlanticcanadalive.com/content/view/12/2/

While social assistance is a ridiculous concept in Atlantic Canada to the extent that its used now, I do agree I'd rather have families getting the money than Dingwall.

Doesn't matter, the guy is destroyed. I don't know many companies that'd want him on a board and he won't work for the government again. So yup, lets just get rid of the guy and never hear about him again.

[shoop]

Dingwall supposedly sits on *several* corporate boards at the moment. Don't think they would give him the boot. While I *wish* he was destroyed, I severely doubt that he is.

While social assistance is a ridiculous concept in Atlantic Canada to the extent that its used now, I do agree I'd rather have families getting the money than Dingwall.

Doesn't matter, the guy is destroyed. I don't know many companies that'd want him on a board and he won't work for the government again. So yup, lets just get rid of the guy and never hear about him again.

[geoffrey]

Dingwall supposedly sits on *several* corporate boards at the moment. Don't think they would give him the boot. While I *wish* he was destroyed, I severely doubt that he is.

While social assistance is a ridiculous concept in Atlantic Canada to the extent that its used now, I do agree I'd rather have families getting the money than Dingwall.

Doesn't matter, the guy is destroyed. I don't know many companies that'd want him on a board and he won't work for the government again. So yup, lets just get rid of the guy and never hear about him again.

I didn't know that. Most corporate boards would be scared of holding such questionable material from a corporate governance perspective. Wouldn't look good to investors.

[shoop]

Every since Enron, etc. companies are having a tough time recruiting board members. Sure the money is nice but not if you are going to get your ass sued it isn't. Besides most companies don't *really* care what their shareholders think of their board members.

I didn't know that. Most corporate boards would be scared of holding such questionable material from a corporate governance perspective. Wouldn't look good to investors.

[Argus]

Dingwall gets $418,000 in settlement

The federal government has paid David Dingwall, the former president of the Royal Canadian Mint, a compensation package for his forced resignation.

The government said it is following a binding arbitration ruling by paying Dingwall, also a one-time Liberal cabinet minister, $417,780 along with associated pension benefits.

The arbitrator, George Adams, ruled Dingwall's resignation last fall was involuntary and therefore the government has a legal obligation to pay him. The Liberal government had maintained that Dingwall had resigned.

Forced Resignation? Resignation last fall was involuntary?

The slimeball managed to convince the arbitrator he didn't resign,but was forced out.Lying Liberal government told us different.

George Adams with other people's money, what a great arbitration,all completed three days before the election. :angry:

Come on. Surely you know how these things work. The Liberals decide on a settlement, then hand-pick an "arbitrator". Either they pick an arbitrator who they know will do as he's told, or they simply don't challenge any of the key "facts" introduced by the other side. Presto, you have an award that they can claim they didn't have anything to do with. "Oh, it's not our fault! It's the arbitrator!". It's the same way they get the courts to do their work for them. They hand-pick liberal judges on the one hand, then when they go to court to "fight" against something, they put on a really poor case so the "other side", the one they want to win, will win. It's not too difficult, really.

[fellowtraveller]

It should be easy to determine if the termination was voluntary or not. if he submitted a letter of resignation, it was voluntary. If he didn't, he was fired and entitled to compensation under the terms of his contract. Pretty straightforward.

A senior official in the Prime Minister's Office said neither Prime Minister Paul Martin nor any other campaigning politician knew about the Dingwall settlement until Saturday, when officials in the Privy Council Office issued a news release

That is NOT straightforward. The PMO and Martin would know the results of the arbitrators ruling 30 seconds after he made it. This is highly political stuff and the Liberals knew the effect it would have on the election - not that Dingwall got money, but that they had lied about the affair in Parliament repeatedly.

Would this news have changed the election results?

Should Harper ask the Ethics Comissioner to investigate former PM Harper and other MPs for lying to the House?

[gerryhatrick]

Why are the conservatives allowing this?

CORRUPTION!

Come on Harper, I thought you were going to deal with this?

[shoop]

So Dingwall getting paid off is a failure on the part of the Conservatives?

Wow, glad to see you are happy the Conservatives won Gerry!

btw What exactly should they do? This appears to be the most cost-effective decision they could make. It is about staying within a budget ... isn't it?

Why are the conservatives allowing this?

CORRUPTION!

Come on Harper, I thought you were going to deal with this?

[geoffrey]

It should be easy to determine if the termination was voluntary or not. if he submitted a letter of resignation, it was voluntary. If he didn't, he was fired and entitled to compensation under the terms of his contract. Pretty straightforward.

A senior official in the Prime Minister's Office said neither Prime Minister Paul Martin nor any other campaigning politician knew about the Dingwall settlement until Saturday, when officials in the Privy Council Office issued a news release

That is NOT straightforward. The PMO and Martin would know the results of the arbitrators ruling 30 seconds after he made it. This is highly political stuff and the Liberals knew the effect it would have on the election - not that Dingwall got money, but that they had lied about the affair in Parliament repeatedly.

Would this news have changed the election results?

Should Harper ask the Ethics Comissioner to investigate former PM Harper and other MPs for lying to the House?

It would have cost the Liberals a few seats most likely yes.

The ethics comissioner is a waste of time, you might as well just have Martin investigate himself, he's proven to do a better job of that than Shapiro.

[Spike22]

He is entitled to a swift kick in the arse. What a pompous assh_ole like the rest of the Lib ministers. What a collection of dimwits. It is a sad case when the queer is one of the best ministers. At least he knows some good restaurants.

[tml12]

He is entitled to a swift kick in the arse. What a pompous assh_ole like the rest of the Lib ministers. What a collection of dimwits. It is a sad case when the queer is one of the best ministers. At least he knows some good restaurants.

That CPC commercial where a smug and full-of-himself Dingwall is sitting there saying "I am entitled to my entitlements" comes up in my mind and makes me want to vomit. He is entitled to being put in jail for abusing the Mint.

Sad...really sad.

[geoffrey]

Political expediency tends to come at a high price.

[tml12]

Political expediency tends to come at a high price.

Does it ever...