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There is also a possibility of scandal-free Manley ascending the stairs again. He's a face the public knows, and has a stead-fast mind of his own.

I heard yesterday that Manley has said he won't run, too bad I think he would have been a decent leader.

Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province

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Normanchateau,

"You seem to have conveniently forgotten your original point."

Okay, we'll see if we can run through this again...

"Earlier in this thread you argued that Harper should fire Martin-appointee McKenna simply because he represented the old "Liberal Dynasty". Notwithstanding that he's a proud Tory, Segal is also a Martin-appointee." :rolleyes:

1) I argued Harper should fire McKenna because he is supposed to renew Canada-US relations and McKenna was appointed by a government that was unabashedly anti-American.

2) Segal was appointed to a Senate position by Martin who, like Trudeau, appointed members of other political parties to the Senate.

"And do you believe that Segal should have run Harper's campaign while receiving a six figure salary from all Canadians instead of being on the CPC payroll? Obviously Harper sees no problem with this but integrity never was one of his strengths. :)"

I admit it does appear to be conflict of interest, but Segal never hid his loyalty to the Conservatives when he accepted the Senate position. I should add that as long as he does his job in the Senate then I think all will be well.

"Those who stand for nothing fall for anything."

-Alexander Hamilton

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