Now that Martin has resigned...

[tml12]

What about Landslide Annie? She was an able enough Deputy PM, and a westerner to boot. She was popular enough in Alberta (really, her loss this time was due to the weakness of the federal campaign and not the strength of her opponnent, the run-of-the-mill reactionary Goldie Laurie Hawn) and, while a Martin loyalist, has enough distance on the inner circle to appear untainted by the scandals of the Quebec wing.

Yeah I feel REAL bad for Landslide Annie... :angry:

http://www.canada.com/national/features/de...f3-90e0298a4e20

[geoffrey]

What about Landslide Annie? She was an able enough Deputy PM, and a westerner to boot. She was popular enough in Alberta (really, her loss this time was due to the weakness of the federal campaign and not the strength of her opponnent, the run-of-the-mill reactionary Goldie Laurie Hawn) and, while a Martin loyalist, has enough distance on the inner circle to appear untainted by the scandals of the Quebec wing.

Yeah I feel REAL bad for Landslide Annie... :angry:

http://www.canada.com/national/features/de...f3-90e0298a4e20

Who the hell gets $100,000/year in pension? I feel some changes are needed, otherwise I need to get elected.

[tml12]

What about Landslide Annie? She was an able enough Deputy PM, and a westerner to boot. She was popular enough in Alberta (really, her loss this time was due to the weakness of the federal campaign and not the strength of her opponnent, the run-of-the-mill reactionary Goldie Laurie Hawn) and, while a Martin loyalist, has enough distance on the inner circle to appear untainted by the scandals of the Quebec wing.

Yeah I feel REAL bad for Landslide Annie... :angry:

http://www.canada.com/national/features/de...f3-90e0298a4e20

Who the hell gets $100,000/year in pension? I feel some changes are needed, otherwise I need to get elected.

Landslide Annie does...as does Martin, Chretien (we even paid his legal fees :angry: ).

I hope the Tories reform it all though unlikely...

[Spike22]

A French Canadian will take over or some old party hack that is bilingual; definitely not someone from the flatlands, BC or the Maritimes.

Now you old hacks dust off those old Redbooks and get going, there is a party leadership race about to start.

Yee Haw

Now lets see what would my platform entail: I think the government should support childcare for all children to the age of 21, pay all their university or other post HS education up to including their PhD's. Eliminate all taxes on booze and smokes, legalize maryjane, let the military members and RCMP grow hair down to their as_ holes, and issue everyone in Canada a small tree, bush or other live plant to help clean up the air and beautify the country. Think I gots a chance ya'll?

[tml12]

A French Canadian will take over or some old party hack that is bilingual; definitely not someone from the flatlands, BC or the Maritimes.

Now you old hacks dust off those old Redbooks and get going, there is a party leadership race about to start.

Yee Haw

Now lets see what would my platform entail: I think the government should support childcare for all children to the age of 21, pay all their university or other post HS education up to including their PhD's. Eliminate all taxes on booze and smokes, legalize maryjane, let the military members and RCMP grow hair down to their as_ holes, and issue everyone in Canada a small tree, bush or other live plant to help clean up the air and beautify the country. Think I gots a chance ya'll?

I'll let you know as soon as I put this bong down.

[normanchateau]

Now lets see what would my platform entail: let the military members and RCMP grow hair down to their as_ holes,

What asexist comment. Women members already have that right. :angry:

[BubberMiley]

I think the Libs would do well with Ken Dryden. Both Habs and Leafs fans would vote for him and that's enough for a majority.

If not, Jack Layton. Unite the left in this country and it would be an undefeatable force that could outlast the provincial Conservatives in Alberta.

[Duke]

IGNATIEF who the hell is he? I had never heard of this guy until this election . Why is he the second coming?

[BubberMiley]

Because he's a smartypants like that trudeau guy. Some people (rarely conservatives) think brilliance is good quality in a leader.

[mar]

Is Belinda Stronach that significant of an individual that she can seriously contest the Liberal nomination. I'm actually in agreement with Norman on this one, that there may have been a lack of urgency to the Tory leadership convention, and this is what lead to perhaps "sub-par" participation in terms of candidates.

By saying this however, implicitly Belinda wasn't even a serious Tory leadership candidate. Given her record of late I simply don't see how anyone could think she is a serious contender. This is especially true when it was the Liberals questioning Harper's experience in this past campaign.

My bets are on Ignatieff and Manley. God help us if we have to listen to that dipshit Tobin in a campaign.

I think Stronach is an attractive package for a leader in some ways. Neither Liberals or Conservatives (in all previous forms) have ever really committed to a female leader (nothing against Kim Campbell but I think she was tokenism). An awful lot of the disaffected PC's are women which could mean votes. One thing she's very good at is appearing natural in public speaking settings. Harper doesn't have it, nor Martin and its a fairly rare ability.

A big negative is her conservative origins (though they would try to make that a plus to bring in disaffected PC's) and relative lack of political experience. On the other hand she just survived a vicious, white hot attack by the Conservatives in the national media and in her riding and still won her seat fairly convincingly. That may say something about her abilities as a campaigner. Sometimes voters just like a candidate...call it charisma or whatever. I don't think she'll be selected as leader but I can see reasons for serious consideration.

Everybody agrees Ignatieff is smart, but if you're gonna be typed an intellectual in politics, you have to have "the common touch." Trudeau was brilliant but he could also tell a joke, give a great speech making it sound like he was making it up as he went along and deliver wicked one liners at a moment's notice. I haven't seen enough of Ignatieff to be sure, but he strikes me as too much the academic in how he comes off. Two recent examples of smart leaders who came off badly when they spoke in public were Al Gore and John Kerry, both of whom are engaging, funny and relaxed in a 1-on-1 but seemed stiff, pompous and remote in public events.

I'll leave our ambassador to the court of the boy king for those who've seen more of him than me. He may be the guy as he seems a "safe" choice. Purely on visuals and the ease of crafting a campaign for him, you got to think Dryden will have supporters. The guy does come off well in public.

It will be interesting to see if the party goes back to the fount of all Liberal success and goes with a Quebecois for leader. You have to admit the sons of Quebec have done pretty well for the Liberals throughout history. Anyone think any of the surviving Quebec Liberal MP's have a shot?

[tml12]

Because he's a smartypants like that trudeau guy. Some people (rarely conservatives) think brilliance is good quality in a leader.

Yes when I hear left-wing neo-commies talk about things like "we don't need an army" and "marxism is misunderstood" I start thinking maybe "brilliance isn't a good quality in a leader."

Practicality is.

[BubberMiley]

How is marxism not misunderstood? No CPCer I've ever met can come up with a coherent accurate definition.

[tml12]

How is marxism not misunderstood? No CPCer I've ever met can come up with a coherent accurate definition.

Have you ever met one of those university-campus far left-wingers who say "marxism is misunderstood" and that China is not Marxist, etc.

[BubberMiley]

Have you ever read Marx?

[tml12]

Have you ever read Marx?

I have read "The Communist Manifesto" many times and have posted links from this forum where you could read about how the NDP borrows a lot from Marx and Engels suggestions.

Have you ever read Marx???

[BubberMiley]

Yeah, but not recently--probably 25 years ago.

But I remember reading it and thinking, gee, this has been misunderstood.

[mar]

Yeah, but not recently--probably 25 years ago.

But I remember reading it and thinking, gee, this has been misunderstood.

LMAO (almost literally).

And tml12, you haven't really got a scoop on the NDP. A long, long time ago in a galaxy far, far away the NDP actually used to campaign as a socialist party. When I was very young they would have Marxist professors of economics, Teamsters and other assorted dangers to society running for the NDP . . . and some of them even got elected!

They were a lot more interesting then.

[tml12]

Yeah, but not recently--probably 25 years ago.

But I remember reading it and thinking, gee, this has been misunderstood.

LMAO (almost literally).

And tml12, you haven't really got a scoop on the NDP. A long, long time ago in a galaxy far, far away the NDP actually used to campaign as a socialist party. When I was very young they would have Marxist professors of economics, Teamsters and other assorted dangers to society running for the NDP . . . and some of them even got elected!

They were a lot more interesting then.

When they finally get their Tony Blair, then I'll vote for them...

The UK Labour used to call themselves "socialists" too.

[mar]

When they finally get their Tony Blair, then I'll vote for them...

The UK Labour used to call themselves "socialists" too.

Uh huh. Some of them still do. In fact I saw a comment on the Guardian today saying "Move over, Tony! Georgie's got a new rent boy."

[tml12]

When they finally get their Tony Blair, then I'll vote for them...

The UK Labour used to call themselves "socialists" too.

Uh huh. Some of them still do. In fact I saw a comment on the Guardian today saying "Move over, Tony! Georgie's got a new rent boy."

Oh come on, surely the left needs to laugh too.

I was referring to the comments from "The Economist" magazine.

[CCGirl]

How is marxism not misunderstood? No CPCer I've ever met can come up with a coherent accurate definition.

Have you ever met one of those university-campus far left-wingers who say "marxism is misunderstood" and that China is not Marxist, etc.

China is nowhere near Marxist! Actually, noone is!

[tml12]

How is marxism not misunderstood? No CPCer I've ever met can come up with a coherent accurate definition.

Have you ever met one of those university-campus far left-wingers who say "marxism is misunderstood" and that China is not Marxist, etc.

China is nowhere near Marxist! Actually, noone is!

You should consider that a good thing...

[geoffrey]

Have you ever met one of those university-campus far left-wingers who say "marxism is misunderstood" and that China is not Marxist, etc.

China is nowhere near Marxist! Actually, noone is!

You should consider that a good thing...

Campus-communists are my favourite. They tend to be those that never have to work during university and are either supported by the government or rich folks back home. My general profile of campus-communists.

I am lucky enough to be at the most Conservative university in Canada, so I don't get to share in on this entertainment.

Maybe we should take a lesson from how it never turns out 'right' and give up on this communism already.

How did we get to this from a 'Now that Martin has resigned' thread?

[tml12]

Have you ever met one of those university-campus far left-wingers who say "marxism is misunderstood" and that China is not Marxist, etc.

China is nowhere near Marxist! Actually, noone is!

You should consider that a good thing...

Campus-communists are my favourite. They tend to be those that never have to work during university and are either supported by the government or rich folks back home. My general profile of campus-communists.

I am lucky enough to be at the most Conservative university in Canada, so I don't get to share in on this entertainment.

Maybe we should take a lesson from how it never turns out 'right' and give up on this communism already.

How did we get to this from a 'Now that Martin has resigned' thread?

I don't know...

Somebody must have asked me something about it.

There are no campus lefties in Calgary Geoffrey???

[geoffrey]

I don't know...

Somebody must have asked me something about it.

There are no campus lefties in Calgary Geoffrey???

Not that I've seen, the reign of terror has moved them all underground I guess? Or removed them all together.