Argus Posted October 1, 2005 Report Posted October 1, 2005 Hot on the heels of learning we gave Svend Robinson ten grand in compensation for him getting hit by a rubber bullet during an riot we hear dear Svend is planning on running again for the House of Commons. Leave aside there was a time when an MP injuried by police putting down a mob would be more embarrassed than indignant. We have the spectacle of an admitted thief running for parliament - and not even for the Liberals! Maybe he managed to buy his boyfriend a fancy ring with out money and figures he's now safe from temptation. But what happens the next time he sees a pretty bauble that takes his fancy? Is the speaker's mace safe? It's very pretty and gilded, after all, just the thing to catch Svend's eye. Still, it fits in with NDP thinking. No one is responsible for their own actions. A little tears and they're willing to chalk it up to society's capitalistic pressure, or some other such BS. You gotta wonder at the mindset of the idiots who will vote for him, though. And no doubt there'll be plenty of them. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Toro Posted October 1, 2005 Report Posted October 1, 2005 Does he actually have a criminal record? Quote "Canada is a country, not a sector. Remember that." - Howard Simons of Simons Research, giving advice to investors.
Argus Posted October 1, 2005 Author Report Posted October 1, 2005 Does he actually have a criminal record? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Nope. He got a conditional discharge, a kind of "go and sin no more" absolution. Now if I'd stolen a $50,000 ring I'd have at least gotten a criminal conviction. But I'm not a darling of the media and arts world. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
I Miss Trudeau Posted October 1, 2005 Report Posted October 1, 2005 Now if I'd stolen a $50,000 ring I'd have at least gotten a criminal conviction. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Probably not, given the same circumstances. Quote Feminism.. the new face of female oppression!
Argus Posted October 1, 2005 Author Report Posted October 1, 2005 Now if I'd stolen a $50,000 ring I'd have at least gotten a criminal conviction. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Probably not, given the same circumstances. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What are these "circumstances" of which you speak? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
err Posted October 1, 2005 Report Posted October 1, 2005 Maybe he managed to buy his boyfriend a fancy ring with out money and figures he's now safe from temptation. But what happens the next time he sees a pretty bauble that takes his fancy? Is the speaker's mace safe? It's very pretty and gilded, after all, just the thing to catch Svend's eye. You sound like an ignorant gay-bashing low-life thug, and it takes away any credibility that you might ever have earned (from gullible people) with your arguments. Your attempt to paint the NDP party and its policies based on one MP who has embarrased himself is pathetic.... If that's the kind of argument you have to resort to in your quest to promote the Conservative party, then I would have to say... if you've got nothing intelligent to say... say nothing... Quote
shoop Posted October 1, 2005 Report Posted October 1, 2005 You sound like an ignorant gay-bashing low-life thug, and it takes away any credibility that you might ever have earned (from gullible people) with your arguments.Your attempt to paint the NDP party and its policies based on one MP who has embarrased himself is pathetic.... If that's the kind of argument you have to resort to in your quest to promote the Conservative party, then I would have to say... if you've got nothing intelligent to say... say nothing... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Why is it gay bashing? Because he used boyfriend? Seriously if you change 'boyfriend' to 'wife' or 'girlfriend' there is absolutely nothing wrong with the statement. Quit changing the topic! Svend should have been forced out of public life for more than one term after that mistake. Quote
Argus Posted October 1, 2005 Author Report Posted October 1, 2005 Maybe he managed to buy his boyfriend a fancy ring with out money and figures he's now safe from temptation. But what happens the next time he sees a pretty bauble that takes his fancy? Is the speaker's mace safe? It's very pretty and gilded, after all, just the thing to catch Svend's eye. You sound like an ignorant gay-bashing low-life thug, and it takes away any credibility that you might ever have earned (from gullible people) with your arguments. That would only disappoint me if I had made the attempt to aim my "arguments" at politically correct, brain-wiped simpletons. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
shoop Posted October 1, 2005 Report Posted October 1, 2005 That would only disappoint me if I had made the attempt to aim my "arguments" at politically correct, brain-wiped simpletons. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What a brutally accurate description of the OP! Quote
mcqueen625 Posted October 2, 2005 Report Posted October 2, 2005 Maybe he managed to buy his boyfriend a fancy ring with out money and figures he's now safe from temptation. But what happens the next time he sees a pretty bauble that takes his fancy? Is the speaker's mace safe? It's very pretty and gilded, after all, just the thing to catch Svend's eye. You sound like an ignorant gay-bashing low-life thug, and it takes away any credibility that you might ever have earned (from gullible people) with your arguments. Your attempt to paint the NDP party and its policies based on one MP who has embarrased himself is pathetic.... If that's the kind of argument you have to resort to in your quest to promote the Conservative party, then I would have to say... if you've got nothing intelligent to say... say nothing... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Okay let's forget the fact that he is gay, let's just deal with the fact that he is an admitted thief, irregardless of whether he wound up with a criminal record or not. Most people would have wound up with a criminal record for sure, just ask any poor folks who have been convicted of shoplifting whether they have a criminal record or not. Most will tell you that they received not only a fine or jail-time, but a criminal record to go with it. They do have the option of applying for a Pardon after five years if they do not commit another criminal act during that 5 years. Of course Svend does not even have to worry about applying for a pardon since the judge treated him with kid-gloves, a slap on the wrist, and no criminal record. He is an admitted thief, and as such shouldn't be allowed to runs for Parliament, since we already have plenty of politicain who have not been caught with their hands in the cookie, and some who have been caught, yet still sit as members, appointees or bureaucrats. Quote
shoop Posted October 2, 2005 Report Posted October 2, 2005 Okay let forget the fact that he is gay, let's just deal with the fact that he is an admitted thief, irregardless of whether he wound up with a criminal record or not. Most people would have wound up with a criminal record for sure, just ask any poor folks who have been convicted of shoplifting whether they have a criminal record or not. Most will tell you that tehy received not only a fine or jailtime, but a criminal record to go with it. They do have the option of applying for a Pardon after fivce years if they do not commit another criminal act. Of course Svend does not have to worry about applying for a pardon since the judge treated him with kid-gloves, a slap on the wrist, and no criminal record.He is a thief, and as such shouldn't be allowed to runs for Parliament, since we already have plenty of politicain who have not been caught with their hands in the cookie, and some who have been caught, yet still sit as members, appointees or bureaucrats. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Agreed, but I would rather see an ND serving as MP for Vancouver-Centre than a Liberal. Swend will win that riding easily in the next election. Quote
mcqueen625 Posted October 2, 2005 Report Posted October 2, 2005 Agreed, but I would rather see an ND serving as MP for Vancouver-Centre than a Liberal. Swend will win that riding easily in the next election.That's fine but why would you want to elect an admitted thief to the Parliament of this country, especially running for a Party that has never and will never form the Government? People of this country want lower taxes while the NDP's platform is against lowing taxes, and instead what to create even larger government to run all of the socail programs that they promote. I used to vote exclusively NDP, both federally and provincially, but all that stopped when the NDP chose Alexia McDonough and she decided to take the Party more to the Centre of the political spectrum in order to gain some favour from the corporate sector. That move was a complete betrayal of the people whom the NDP traditionally represented, which was the ordinary working person in this country. Corporations represent only themselves and their profits for their shareholders, not the people of this country. What do you think free-trade is all about? It certainly isn't about people, it is instead about allowing the multinational corporations maximize profits by outsourcing their manufacturing to third world countries, and shipping it back into Canada, duty-free. The NDP has become under Alexia and Jack just another Liberal Party, and that showed by their support of a Liberal Government so corrupt that they will agree with anything and anyone to stay in power. My biggest fear is that the people will elect another majority Liberal Government to power, because if they get the majority that Martin wants, I wouldn't give two cents for the promises Martin made to the NDP & the Bloc to gain their support. I believe those promises will be indefinitely postponed. Quote
err Posted October 2, 2005 Report Posted October 2, 2005 People of this country want lower taxes while the NDP's platform is against lowing taxes, and instead what to create even larger government to run all of the socail programs that they promote. If you expand on the half-truths in the above statement, you may arrive at a different conclusion. Of course people want lower taxes.... An our past few federal governments (of both flavours) have been good tax cutters.... except they've only really cut corporate taxes, and business taxes... They run on platforms of "lowering taxes", but who for... not for the majority of Canadians... just corp Canada and the investor class. The NDP is for removing some of the loopholes and allowing corporate taxes to rise (at least to the level that they are taxed in the USA) When this is accomplished, the government will be in a position to lower taxes for the majority of Canadians... who the government is supposed to represent... Quote
shoop Posted October 2, 2005 Report Posted October 2, 2005 That's fine but why would you want to elect an admitted thief to the Parliament of this country, especially running for a Party that has never and will never form the Government? People of this country want lower taxes while the NDP's platform is against lowing taxes, and instead what to create even larger government to run all of the socail programs that they promote. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It's called being shrewd about one's choices. I definitely do not support the Liberals or the NDs. But given the demographics of that particular riding there is no way that it would go CPC in the coming election. Better Svend harping from the opposition side of the benches than another Liberal MP that might be enough to tip the balance... Quote
Canuck E Stan Posted October 2, 2005 Report Posted October 2, 2005 ......but what about all the cross burning in Prince George? Jewelry stores could go up in flames. I think Sven would get a "ringing" endorsement over the Frye girl Quote "Any man under 30 who is not a liberal has no heart, and any man over 30 who is not a conservative has no brains." — Winston Churchill
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