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America's "greatest war hero" shows that renowned liberal compassion

Billionaire Democratic Sen. John Kerry has finally sent his own aid package to hurricane-ravaged New Orleans more than two weeks after the storm hit - and a week after most of the city had been successfully evacuated by the Bush administration.

Kerry traveled to New Orleans on Monday aboard a UPS Boeing 757...

Damn greedy UPS corporation. :angry:

loaded with 5,000 bottles of baby formula, 5,000 pairs of sneakers and an array of cleaning supplies, the Associated Press said.

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But rather than pay for the aid using his wife's ketchup fortune - which the Los Angeles Times estimated last year at over a billion dollars - Kerry's aid package was donated by Boston's Children's Hospital, the New England Shelter for Homeless Veterans...

John Kerry thanks the Boston Children's Hospital and the New England Shelter for Homeless Veterans for their contributions.

...and the New Balance sneaker company.

Another greedy corporation!!

UPS donated the plane, the flight crew and fuel, trucks and drivers to transport the goods to Logan International Airport and then to disperse them to Baton Rogue and Lafayette, La.

Greedy corporate bastards!!! Constantly exploiting the people, unlike John Kerry, who garnered 17 Purple Hearts, 8 Silver Stars and a Captain Cody Commando Code Ring out of a Cracker Jacks box - all in a period of 4 months.

Btw, did you know that John Kerry served in Vietnam? :o

Seriously though, when will John Kerry release his military records? He vowed to release his records once Bush did. President Bush released his records but Kerry has refused to do so. What is he hiding?

It appears the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth have still got Kerry on the run. The liberal-controlled media did everything in their power to ignore the Swifties, then did everything in their power to destroy tehir credibility when they could no longer ignore them. How many times do you read articles that refer to the Swifties as "the discredited SBVFT"?

Who could ever forget CNN's James Carville -while hosting Crossfire at the same time as he was a campaign advisor for John Kerry (a blatant blatant conflict of interest) - launching a red-faced/purple-faced insane attack on the SBVFT John O'Neill? It was one of the most disgusting examples of liberal bias I have ever seen. :angry:

The fact is that the SBVFT are up 2-0.

Kerry's campaign was forced to admit that one of his Purple Hearts *might* have come from a self-inflicted wound....

...and Kerry's campaign was forced to admit that he was *mistaken* about his "sooper seekrit CIA campaign at the behest of Ricahrd Nixon" in Cambodia on Christmas Eve, 1968.

If only the liberal-controlled media had bothered to factcheck who was the President at Christmas time in 1968... :rolleyes:

John Kerry: The public demands that you sign Standard Form 180 and release all of your military records.

The public demands to know what you are hiding.

It's a matter of public record that you shot a teenage boy in the back while he was fleeing from you; it's a matter of public record that your picture hangs in the North Vietnamese Military Hall of Fame; it's a matter of public record that you met the VietCong in Paris while you were a reservist.

The public demands that you release all your military records. Hey, at least you didn't flee to England to avoid the draft like that coward Bill Clinton did.

What is John Kerry hiding?

Unfortunately, the liberal-controlled media will never tell us what he is hiding as they are too busy investigating if Bush missed a day of service at the TANG 30+ years ago.

"Anybody who doesn't appreciate what America has done, and President Bush, let them go to hell!" -- Iraqi Betty Dawisha, after dropping her vote in the ballot box, wields The Cluebat™ to the anti-liberty crowd on Dec 13, 2005.

"Call me crazy, but I think they [iraqis] were happy with thier [sic] dumpy homes before the USA levelled so many of them" -- Gerryhatrick, Feb 3, 2006.

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But rather than pay for the aid using his wife's ketchup fortune - which the Los Angeles Times estimated last year at over a billion dollars - Kerry's aid package was donated by Boston's Children's Hospital, the New England Shelter for Homeless Veterans...

How much has Cheney donated? I mean, he must have earned a fortune from Haliburton over the last five years. God knows Haliburton has earned a fortune from Cheney.

Btw, did you know that John Kerry served in Vietnam?  :o

Seriously though, when will John Kerry release his military records?  He vowed to release his records once Bush did.  President Bush released his records but Kerry has refused to do so.  What is he hiding?

It always struck me that Kerry, a man who fought and killed and was wounded for his country, and then has been ceaselessly attacked for that by "brave" Republican fanatics, is like gulliver with yapping, incontent little miniature poodles yapping at his heels, all ferocious - from a distance, all despising anyone who dares speak of words like "compromise" or "integrity" or "compassion".

It appears the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth have still got Kerry on the run.

All have long been proved to be liars in the pay of a particularly vile Republican wacko (the Republican party seems to get more and more such supporters). And even Republicans - those with honour - have called the so-called "Swift Boat Veterans' campaign indecent, vile and deceitful. That Bush and Company made use of them is another of the signs of the absolute lack of integrity, honesty or honour among them.

Factcheck on the Swift Boat Veterans

It was one of the most disgusting examples of liberal bias I have ever seen. :angry:

And yet you revel in bias and prejudice, you glory in it when its done by your beloved FOX news.

The fact is that the SBVFT are up 2-0.

Everyone involved in the SBVT is utter filth.

Unfortunately, the liberal-controlled media will never tell us what he is hiding as they are too busy investigating if Bush missed a day of service at the TANG 30+ years ago.

You mean when BUSH went AWOL, was grounded for insubordinaton, and his family covered up for him again.

Once again this type of post reveals the hate of the fanatical far right in the United States. It's amazing, really, how a democracy can survive with such people infesting it.

McCain condemns "Swift Boat Veterans"

"It was the same kind of deal that was pulled on me," McCain said in an interview with The Associated Press, comparing the anti-Kerry ad to tactics in his bitter Republican primary fight with President Bush

It seems that it doesn't do any good to be an honourable war hero and put your life on the line for your country. Not when a coke-sniffing, alcoholic coward who ran away snivelling to daddy to keep safe can call on the big money men to smear and lie for him, and convince the credulous cretins out there that he's somehow more than a shiftless, no-account rich-boy.

And here we are way past the election, and the fanatic poodles are still yapping ceaselessly at a man they will have unremitting hate for because he dared to challenge their beloved rich boy in an election. It's sad, on the one hand, and contemptable on the other.

"A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley

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John Kerry:  The public demands that you sign Standard Form 180 and release all of your military records. 

The public demands to know what you are hiding.

The public demands that you release all your military records.  Hey, at least you didn't flee to England to avoid the draft like that coward Bill Clinton did. 

Let me guess; you participate in another online forum, where you use the nickname "THE PUBLIC"????

I need another coffee

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Argus:

How much has Cheney donated? I mean, he must have earned a fortune from Haliburton over the last five years. God knows Haliburton has earned a fortune from Cheney.

Dick Cheney is a billionaire? Who told you that? MediaMatters.org? *snicker*

It always struck me that Kerry, a man who fought and killed...

He shot a fleeing teenage boy in the back.

and was wounded for his country,...

He didn't spend even one hour in the hospital while the doctors used tweezers to get rice out of his ass because he threw a grenade at a rice paddy.

and then has been ceaselessly attacked for that by "brave" Republican fanatics, is like gulliver with yapping, incontent little miniature poodles yapping at his heels, all ferocious - from a distance, all despising anyone who dares speak of words like "compromise" or "integrity" or "compassion".

Kerry used his father's connections to get on the Swift Boats, believing it would be one of the safest assignments in Vietnam. Two weeks into Kerry's Swift Boat assignment, they decided to use the boats on the Mekong river.

Compare that to President Bush who volunteered to go to Vietnam, but sadly lacked the amount of air hours to do so.

Kerry abandoned his mates 4 months into a 12 month tour; he went back to the US and accused his mates of committing atrocities; he fled when one of the Swift Boats was attacked, only coming back when things were safe; he went to Paris to meet the Vietcong during the war (he probably should have been executed for that); and John Kerry's picture proudly hangs in the Vietnamese War Museum as a testament to his helping the Vietcong.

A typical traiterous liberal - they almost always take the side of the enemy.

All have long been proved to be liars...

All have proven to be liars? What a pile of crap. The fact is that the Kerry campaign admitted that:

1) Kerry was "mistaken" when he said he was in Cambodia on Christmas Eve 1968 on that sooper seekrit mission at the behest of Richard Nixon (who wasn't even president), and...

2) One of Kerry's Purple Hearts "might" have come from a self-inflicted wound (rice in the ass when he blew up that Evil Rice Paddy).

...in the pay of a particularly vile Republican wacko (the Republican party seems to get more and more such supporters).

Anyone to the right of Joseph Stalin is a "vile Republican wacko" in Argus' world. I find it telling that he is silent about the wackos who control the Democrat Party; Howard Dean, John Kerry, John Edwards, Al Sharpton, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Dick Durbin, Al Gore, Michael Moore, Katherine McKinney, etc etc. It's a all-you-can-eat buffet of moonbats.

That Bush and Company made use of them is another of the signs of the absolute lack of integrity, honesty or honour among them.

Bush had nothing to do with the SBVFT. But yes, it was (shockingly!) a Repulbican donor who financed those ads, not a Democrat. Who'd a thunk it? :blink:

Indeed, I remember Bush holding that press conference at his ranch - where the liberal media was whining about the SBVFT, and Max Cleland had hiliariously camped outside Bush's ranch (a la Mother Sheehan) - and Bush saying he wanted all 527 ads to stop.

I had to laugh at the crying by Cleland and the liberal press. They greatly outspent the Republicans on 527 ads, but then started whining when the Swifites ads started to hit the airwaves and had a tremendous impact on the public.

It's quite an achievement to have 264 out of 270 Swift Boat mates hate your (Kerry's) guts after a mere 4 months.

Everyone involved in the SBVT is utter filth.

264 of 270 of the SBVFT are utter filth!!

You mean when BUSH went AWOL, was grounded for insubordinaton, and his family covered up for him again.

Well, at least one person - Argus - believes Dan Rather. :lol:

Once again this type of post reveals the hate of the fanatical far right in the United States. It's amazing, really, how a democracy can survive with such people infesting it.

Once again, the radical far-left shows its true colors. Damn those morons who voted for Bush. They're so stoopid. Why didn't they listen to the enlightened Argus? :huh:

"Anybody who doesn't appreciate what America has done, and President Bush, let them go to hell!" -- Iraqi Betty Dawisha, after dropping her vote in the ballot box, wields The Cluebat™ to the anti-liberty crowd on Dec 13, 2005.

"Call me crazy, but I think they [iraqis] were happy with thier [sic] dumpy homes before the USA levelled so many of them" -- Gerryhatrick, Feb 3, 2006.

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John Kerry:  The public demands that you sign Standard Form 180 and release all of your military records. 

The public demands to know what you are hiding.

The public demands that you release all your military records.  Hey, at least you didn't flee to England to avoid the draft like that coward Bill Clinton did. 

Let me guess; you participate in another online forum, where you use the nickname "THE PUBLIC"????

Very funny. :)

However, aren't you the least bit curious as to why Kerry refuses to release all his military records. He based his entire campaign on his 4 month tour of Vietnam; he vowed to release his military records after Bush did; yet when Bush released his military records, Kerry stonewalled.

Are you not the least bit curious as to what he is hiding? There are rumors. Wouldn't you like to know if they are true?

"Anybody who doesn't appreciate what America has done, and President Bush, let them go to hell!" -- Iraqi Betty Dawisha, after dropping her vote in the ballot box, wields The Cluebat™ to the anti-liberty crowd on Dec 13, 2005.

"Call me crazy, but I think they [iraqis] were happy with thier [sic] dumpy homes before the USA levelled so many of them" -- Gerryhatrick, Feb 3, 2006.

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How much has Cheney donated? I mean, he must have earned a fortune from Haliburton over the last five years. God knows Haliburton has earned a fortune from Cheney.

Dick Cheney is a billionaire? Who told you that?

I didn't say he was a billionaire. I said he was a thief. Only billionaires can contribute now?

It always struck me that Kerry, a man who fought and killed...

He shot a fleeing teenage boy in the back.

I like this. It really shows how wild-eyed and full of hate the far, far right are.

A VC guerrila with a rocket launcher gets dismissed as "a teenager". And suddenly, firefights in the jungle are fought by gentlemen's rules which allow you to run to new cover, then turn to fire, and be free from fear of attack until you actually are aiming at someone again.

surviving crewmates have told how, when they were ambushed by a Vietcong guerrilla firing rockets from the riverbank, Kerry made an instantaneous decision that evasive action was impossible, turned his boat directly into the fire, beached it, and leaped ashore, to the astonishment of the man with the rocket launcher, who popped up from his spider hole and fled. Kerry chased him and killed him. Navy men were not supposed to leave their ships during combat, and before recommending Kerry for the medal his commanding officer quipped that he wasn’t sure whether he shouldn’t court-martial him instead.

And Kerry never was involved in any other action or firefights?

and was wounded for his country,...

He didn't spend even one hour in the hospital while the doctors used tweezers to get rice out of his ass because he threw a grenade at a rice paddy.

And Bush was wounded how? Oh right, he stepped on some broken beer bottles at a fraternity house party.

Kerry used his father's connections to get on the Swift Boats, believing it would be one of the safest assignments in Vietnam. Two weeks into Kerry's Swift Boat assignment, they decided to use the boats on the Mekong river.
Kerry volunteered, both to join the navy and for combat. He went to war. He fought and killed and was shot at. He risked his ass while George W Bush was snorting coke, getting drunk and trying to seduce freshman sorority girls.
Compare that to President Bush who volunteered to go to Vietnam, but sadly lacked the amount of air hours to do so. 
George Bush ran sobbing to daddy when it looked like he might get drafted to the regular army. Daddy used his connections to jump him over a very, very long line to get into the Texas National Guard where he would be safe. He was grounded for refusing to take a physical - perhaps because he was worried his cocaine use would be exposed.
Kerry abandoned his mates 4 months into a 12 month tour;

Kerry served two tours with the navy and was transferred back to the US after his third puprle heart. Meanwhile, young George... the following link is kind of funny when you read the two men's histories side by side.

Some of George Bush's more exciting missions:

September 1968:

After basic training, Bush pulls inactive duty to act as gopher on Florida Senator Edward J. Gurney's campaign.

November 1969:

Bush is flown to the White House by President Nixon for a date with daughter Tricia.

Spring 1971:

Bush is hired by a Texas agricultural importer. He uses a National Guard F-102 to shuttle tropical plants from Florida.

Military experience of George and Bob

264 of 270 of the SBVFT are utter filth!!

The Republicans used private investigators to search out anyone who had served anywhere near Kerry and press them for afidavids. In some cases they altered what was said, and in others offered money and threats to get statements they wanted. Many of the statements have been proven as lies since then, and others who are quoted have denied saying what they said. None of the members of this group actually served with Kerry. Some hardly even knew who he was.

"The SBVT was formed in 2004. Membership was initially limited to veterans of the Vietnam War who at some point served in a Swift boat unit, as did Kerry. Of the 3,500 Swift boat sailors who served in Vietnam, the names of some 250 appeared on the group's initial statement against Kerry; most did not serve at the same time or in the same place as Kerry."

Oddly, the men who actually served with or under Kerry seem to disagree with the Republicans.

"A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley

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Argus:

I didn't say he was a billionaire. I said he was a thief. Only billionaires can contribute now?

The article said billionaire John Kerry donated nothing of his own. You then asked how much Cheney donated.

I like this. It really shows how wild-eyed and full of hate the far, far right are.

A VC guerrila with a rocket launcher gets dismissed as "a teenager". And suddenly, firefights in the jungle are fought by gentlemen's rules which allow you to run to new cover, then turn to fire, and be free from fear of attack until you actually are aiming at someone again.

surviving crewmates have told how, when they were ambushed by a Vietcong guerrilla firing rockets from the riverbank, Kerry made an instantaneous decision that evasive action was impossible, turned his boat directly into the fire, beached it, and leaped ashore, to the astonishment of the man with the rocket launcher, who popped up from his spider hole and fled. Kerry chased him and killed him. Navy men were not supposed to leave their ships during combat, and before recommending Kerry for the medal his commanding officer quipped that he wasn’t sure whether he shouldn’t court-martial him instead.

And Kerry never was involved in any other action or firefights?

"According to Kerry's crewman Michael Madeiros, Kerry had an agreement with him to turn the boat in and onto the beach if fired upon. Each of the three boats involved in the operation was involved in the agreement." O'Neill writes that one crewman even recalls a discussion of probable medals.

Doug Reese, a pro Kerry Army veteran, recounted what happened that day to O'Neill, "Far from being alone, the boats were loaded with many soldiers commanded by Reese and two other advisors. When fired at, Reese's boat--not Kerry's--was the first to beach in the ambush zone. Then Reese and other troops and advisors (not Kerry) disembarked, killing a number of Viet Cong and capturing a number of weapons. None of the participants from Reese's boat received Silver Stars.

O'Neill continues: "Kerry's boat moved slightly downstream and was struck by a rocket-propelled grenade. . . .A young Viet Cong in a loincloth popped out of a hole, clutching a grenade launcher, which may or may not have been loaded. . . Tom Belodeau, a forward gunner, shot the Viet Cong with an M-60 machine gun in the leg as he fled. . . . Kerry and Medeiros (who had many troops in their boat) took off, perhaps with others, and followed the young Viet Cong and shot him in the back, behind a lean to."

O'Neill concludes "Whether Kerry's dispatching of a fleeing, wounded, armed or unarmed teenage enemy was in accordance with the customs of war, it is very clear that many Vietnam veterans and most Swiftees do not consider this action to be the stuff of which medals of any kind are awarded; nor would it even be a good story if told in the cold details of reality. There is no indication that Kerry ever reported that the Viet Cong was wounded and fleeing when dispatched. Likewise, the citation simply ignores the presence of the soldiers and advisors who actually 'captured the enemy weapons' and routed the Viet Cong. . . . [and] that Kerry attacked a 'numerically superior force in the face of intense fire' is simply false. There was little or no fire after Kerry followed the plan. . . . The lone, wounded, fleeing young Viet Cong in a loincloth was hardly a force superior to the heavily armed Swift Boat and its crew and the soldiers carried aboard."

And More:

George Bates, an officer in Coastal Division 11, participated in numerous operations with Kerry. In UNFIT FOR COMMAND, Bates recalls a particular patrol with Kerry on the Song Bo De River. He is still "haunted" by the incident:

With Kerry in the lead, the boats approached a small hamlet with three or four grass huts. Pigs and chickens were milling around peacefully. As the boats drew closer, the villagers fled. There were no political symbols or flags in evidence in the tiny village. It was obvious to Bates that existing policies, decency, and good sense required the boats to simply move on.

Instead, Kerry beached his boat directly in the small settlement. Upon his command, the numerous small animals were slaughtered by heavy-caliber machine guns. Acting more like a pirate than a naval officer, Kerry disembarked and ran around with a Zippo lighter, burning up the entire hamlet.

Bates has never forgotten Kerry's actions.

And Bush was wounded how? Oh right, he stepped on some broken beer bottles at a fraternity house party.

Dr. Louis Letson, version matches with William Schachte's account:

I have a very clear memory of an incident which occurred while I was the Medical Officer at Naval Support Facility, Cam Ranh Bay. John Kerry was a (jg), the OinC or skipper of a Swift boat, newly arrived in Vietnam. On the night of December 2, he was on patrol north of Cam Ranh, up near Nha Trang area. The next day he came to sick bay, the medical facility, for treatment of a wound that had occurred that night.

The story he told was different from what his crewmen had to say about that night. According to Kerry, they had been engaged in a fire fight, receiving small arms fire from on shore. He said that his injury resulted from this enemy action.

Some of his crew confided that they did not receive any fire from shore, but that Kerry had fired a mortar round at close range to some rocks on shore. The crewman thought that the injury was caused by a fragment ricocheting from that mortar round when it struck the rocks.

That seemed to fit the injury which I treated.

What I saw was a small piece of metal sticking very superficially in the skin of Kerry's arm. The metal fragment measured about 1 cm. in length and was about 2 or 3 mm in diameter. It certainly did not look like a round from a rifle.

I simply removed the piece of metal by lifting it out of the skin with forceps. I doubt that it penetrated more than 3 or 4 mm. It did not require probing to find it, did not require any anesthesia to remove it, and did not require any sutures to close the wound.

The wound was covered with a bandaid.

Not [sic] other injuries were reported and I do not recall that there was any reported damage to the boat.

The following morning, John Kerry arrived at the office of Coastal Division 14 Commander Grant Hibbard to apply for a Purple Heart. Having already been informed by Schachte that Kerry's injury was self-inflicted rather than the result of hostile fire, Commander Hibbard told him to "forget it." Hibbard recently said of Kerry's minor scratch, "I’ve seen worse injuries from a rose thorn."

One could get worse injuries from stepping on a broken beer bottle, but the hate-filled ultra-left will never admit that.

But apparently some still believe that Kerry was the most decorated warrior for the least amount of time served in US military history.

Kerry volunteered, both to join the navy and for combat. He went to war. He fought and killed and was shot at. He risked his ass while George W Bush was snorting coke, getting drunk and trying to seduce freshman sorority girls.

After Kerry's college deferments expired, he asked the draft board if he could serve time in Paris, doing research. The board said no. Knowing he was about to be drafted, he enlisted. Kerry asked to serve on the Swift boats, because at the time, swift boats were not used in combat. However, before Kerry could complete his duty, the Swift boats were assigned to combat duty, and he was thus sent to Vietnam.

Senator Kerry wrote this in 1986: "When I signed up for the Swift boats, they had very little to do with the war. "I didn't really want to get involved in the war."

George Bush ran sobbing to daddy when it looked like he might get drafted to the regular army. Daddy used his connections to jump him over a very, very long line to get into the Texas National Guard where he would be safe. He was grounded for refusing to take a physical - perhaps because he was worried his cocaine use would be exposed.

Retired Colonel Ed Morrisey, who swore then-Lieutenant Bush into the Air National Guard:

Morrisey says in the six years the President served he never failed to meet participation point requirements.

"Bush averaged 176 per year. In no year did he have less that 50," says Morrisey. "He was rated by his commander, Col. Maurice Udell in the top 5 of his pilots."

One of the criticisms leveled at the President is that he sought guard service to keep him from serving in Vietnam.

Morrisey says, "not so."

"The Air Force, in their ultimate wisdom, assembled a group of 102's and took them to Southeast Asia. Bush volunteered to go. But he needed to have 500 [flight] hours, but he only had just over 300 hours so he wasn't eligible to go,” Morrisey recalls.

Despite that, Lieutenant Bush stayed busy.

"He flew in active air defense missions, training missions. Day, night, regardless of inclement weather," Morrisey says.

Kerry served two tours with the navy and was transferred back to the US after his third puprle heart. Meanwhile, young George... the following link is kind of funny when you read the two men's histories side by side.

December 1967: Kerry begins his first tour of duty, serving on the guided-missile frigate USS Gridley.

February 1968: With Kerry aboard, the Gridley sails into war to patrol the coast of Vietnam. He never came into contact with the enemy during this time.

To be gracious, that's 8 months total, 4 of which were relatively uneventful, and only one 4-month tour was as a commander of a boat. (And that tour was ended abruptly when Kerry abandoned his command after having received 3 minor injuries.)

Some of George Bush's more exciting missions:

September 1968:

After basic training, Bush pulls inactive duty to act as gopher on Florida Senator Edward J. Gurney's campaign.

November 1969:

Bush is flown to the White House by President Nixon for a date with daughter Tricia.

Spring 1971:

Bush is hired by a Texas agricultural importer. He uses a National Guard F-102 to shuttle tropical plants from Florida.

Military experience of George and Bob

MotherJones? :lol: Whatsa matter? Couldn't find anything on the World Socialist Web Site (WSWS)? :lol:

The Republicans used private investigators to search out anyone who had served anywhere near Kerry and press them for afidavids. In some cases they altered what was said, and in others offered money and threats to get statements they wanted. Many of the statements have been proven as lies since then, and others who are quoted have denied saying what they said. None of the members of this group actually served with Kerry. Some hardly even knew who he was.

"The SBVT was formed in 2004. Membership was initially limited to veterans of the Vietnam War who at some point served in a Swift boat unit, as did Kerry. Of the 3,500 Swift boat sailors who served in Vietnam, the names of some 250 appeared on the group's initial statement against Kerry; most did not serve at the same time or in the same place as Kerry."

Oddly, the men who actually served with or under Kerry seem to disagree with the Republicans.

Do you even know what an affidavat is? The rest of your remarks are lies and sound like something you pulled from Michael Moore's site.

Only 3 of John Kerry's 23 fellow Swift boat commanders supported Kerry's candidacy. I suppose the other 20 were all neocons. :rolleyes:

Touch the photo to see Kerry's "Band of Brothers"

"Anybody who doesn't appreciate what America has done, and President Bush, let them go to hell!" -- Iraqi Betty Dawisha, after dropping her vote in the ballot box, wields The Cluebat™ to the anti-liberty crowd on Dec 13, 2005.

"Call me crazy, but I think they [iraqis] were happy with thier [sic] dumpy homes before the USA levelled so many of them" -- Gerryhatrick, Feb 3, 2006.

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Compare that to President Bush who volunteered to go to Vietnam, but sadly lacked the amount of air hours to do so. 

Thank you for the laugh of the week. :lol:

I'm always happy to educate you. ;)

Bush volunteered to go to Vietnam, but only had a bit over 300 flight hours and needed 500 hours

"Anybody who doesn't appreciate what America has done, and President Bush, let them go to hell!" -- Iraqi Betty Dawisha, after dropping her vote in the ballot box, wields The Cluebat™ to the anti-liberty crowd on Dec 13, 2005.

"Call me crazy, but I think they [iraqis] were happy with thier [sic] dumpy homes before the USA levelled so many of them" -- Gerryhatrick, Feb 3, 2006.

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Compare that to President Bush who volunteered to go to Vietnam, but sadly lacked the amount of air hours to do so. 

Thank you for the laugh of the week. :lol:

I'm always happy to educate you. ;)

Bush volunteered to go to Vietnam, but only had a bit over 300 flight hours and needed 500 hours

Well, I always like to go to the horse's mouth. Bush himself says he didn't volunteer.

And that's good enough for me.

Russert: But you didn't volunteer or enlist to go.

President Bush: No, I didn't...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4179618/

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Argus:
I didn't say he was a billionaire. I said he was a thief. Only billionaires can contribute now?

The article said billionaire John Kerry donated nothing of his own. You then asked how much Cheney donated.

And how much did he donate? For that matter, how much did Bush donate? It should have been a lot since both men are multi-millionaires, right?

I like this. It really shows how wild-eyed and full of hate the far, far right are.

A VC guerrila with a rocket launcher gets dismissed as "a teenager". And suddenly, firefights in the jungle are fought by gentlemen's rules which allow you to run to new cover, then turn to fire, and be free from fear of attack until you actually are aiming at someone again.

"According to Kerry's crewman Michael Madeiros, Kerry had an agreement with him to turn the boat in and onto the beach if fired upon.

Okay, here's what you don't seem to be understanding. I am not interested in bandying quotes back and forth with you about John Kerry. Kerry was a soldier. Plain and simple. I really don't care if he was a war hero or not. The fact is he went to war for his country. That's not something George Bush can say.

Here's my point. You and the other far, far right wing Bush cultists are still frothing at the mouth about Kerry a year after the election, your little files stuffed with quotes and innuendo, smears and lies and distortions to attack the man. A year after the election and you still post shrill rants every time you see his name in the paper. Oh, he led a red cross flight into New Orleans, did he!? Well let's dredge up every tired, hackneyed, pathetic accusation the right wing crazies from Texas dreamed up and hurl them all out there again - and again - and again.

I imagine that twenty years from now there'll be a story about Kerry visiting a children 's home and there you'll be, still frothing at the mouth, throwing out the same muck dreamed up by Bush's smear team.

Why? Because you think he wasn't a war hero? Fine. What does that make George Bush? I mean, if you really had any kind of respect for soldiers who served their country, and any kind of anger for soldiers you think are imperfect, you'd have nothing but contempt for Bush. Instead, he walks on water. He's the reincarnation of Moses and Jesus Christ all wrapped in one coke sniffing, alcoholic haze. You're own "Great Leader" you'll worship forever.

"A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley

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Anyone to the right of Joseph Stalin is a far far rightwinger in Argus World. ;)

In Argus World, you can accuse Bush of hating n*ggers, you can accuse him of being a cokehead, you can accuse him of using Daddy to get out of Vietnam - even though Bush volunteered to go to Vietnam - but you can be silent about Dear Leader's admitted draft-dodging and lying under oath, because Dear Leader is not president anymore. He's off limits now!

You can blast Bush for not going against the US Constitution (Posse Comitarus Act) and bypassing the Constitution. If you have Bush Derangement Syndrome, you too can blame Bush for going by the Constitution and not micromanaging every single city, town, and villlage in the country.

And you cannot question why Super Duper War Hero Kerry said he would release his military records, but refuses to do so. So what if Kerry made his 4 months in Vietnam the centerpiece of his campaign! He's not president, so he is off limits!

Remember this and you can understand Argus World.

"Anybody who doesn't appreciate what America has done, and President Bush, let them go to hell!" -- Iraqi Betty Dawisha, after dropping her vote in the ballot box, wields The Cluebat™ to the anti-liberty crowd on Dec 13, 2005.

"Call me crazy, but I think they [iraqis] were happy with thier [sic] dumpy homes before the USA levelled so many of them" -- Gerryhatrick, Feb 3, 2006.

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