A Global Picture Of Income Inequality

[TimG]

And there comes a time when those in love with oil, and deniers of global warming, become too tedious to listen to.

Except the facts are proving that the optimists are right over and over again. The real deniers are those who insist that the end of the world is coming despite all of the evidence that people and society adapt quickly and the world does not end.

[WIP]

Except the facts are proving that the optimists are right over and over again. The real deniers are those who insist that the end of the world is coming despite all of the evidence that people and society adapt quickly and the world does not end.

No the optimists aren't right, and you were...if you are not still...denying anthropogenic climate change completely, even as we have seen the rates of CO2, CH4 increase accelerating in the last decade beyond the worst projections of the IPCC reports. Whether it's greenhouse gas increases, ocean temperature increases, melting sea ice, ocean acidification, global air temperature increases etc. etc., the so called "climate change skeptics" have been wrong on one issue after another whenever they have had the courage to go past picking at the majority opinion and make predictions of their own. And they function for the same reason that idiots like Tom Friedman, Judith Miller and David Brooks still have careers as "moderate" political pundits -- because the media establishment has collective amnesia and never goes back to point out when these clowns have been dead wrong in their news analysis. Same goes with the skeptics! Every media conglomerate's favourite climate change skeptic now - Bjorn Lomborg, has a new column out in the Wall Street Journal, blathering on about how we can adapt to the unadaptable. And it's taken seriously by the WSJ editors, because it fits their needs and it's what they want to hear! Nobody at the Journal goes back 10 or 12 years to when Lomborg was declaring that even the minimum predictions of the IPCC were overstated and would not be as high as their minimum forecasts. And, I suspect that these days, Lomborg avoids any interviews where he will be confronted by what he has said or written in the past.....just like Friedman, Miller and Brooks!

[TimG]

No the optimists aren't right, and you were...if you are not still...denying anthropogenic climate change completely, even as we have seen the rates of CO2, CH4 increase accelerating in the last decade beyond the worst projections of the IPCC reports.

It is interesting that you failed to mention that temperatures are NOT accelerating faster than the IPCC reports - the only metric that really matters to humans. In fact, the rate of warming is below the IPCC best case prediction which tells us the IPCC models are more or less useless.

I fully expect you to continue your doomsday rants and to jump on every random event like Sandy and claim it some how supports your claims. But as time marches on you will be shown to be wrong. People and society will change and the future will not be the same as today because of the gradual adaption that takes place without grand visions or efforts. In 30 years we will laugh at people like you the way laugh at the people who predicted the world would run out of food and oil in the 80s.

Edited January 27, 2013 by TimG

[WIP]

It is interesting that you failed to mention that temperatures are NOT accelerating faster than the IPCC reports

Don't have time for a full response, but can't help noticing that you didn't mention any of the other symptoms of climate change...any reason for overlooking them? If I'm wrong about air temps, it doesn't mean dick because the temperature increases in the polar regions...where increases are having the most damaging effects - by triggering positive feedback releases of carbon are much greater than 1 C and undeniable even by deniers! Globally, most of the heat energy is absorbed by the world's oceans (90 %), and that energy is eventually going to make itself known to us, since the best estimates are that 1 C of heat energy are already in the pipeline and coming our way in the coming decades regardless of what we do right now.

[blueblood]

No. The Scandinavian countries have found a model that works for small homogeneous countries. It is not a model that can be adopted by different countries with different geography and different ethnic make up.

However, the world has consistently proven doomsayers like WIP wrong. There comes a time when doomsayers become too tedious to listen to.

You also forgot to mention that Scandinavian countries also are enjoying the free ride provided by uncle Sam In regards to security, finance, and most importantly innovation. They get to enjoy their "paradise" while others do all the work. That's one for bushcheney.