madmax Posted July 22, 2012 Report Posted July 22, 2012 Funny, you still haven't actually articulated what it means to be a true conservative. easy to throw stones when you can't even be bothered to put your own beliefs on the line. Man up. Interesting Article today about debt.... http://www.ottawacitizen.com/opinion/columnists/Europe+caricatures+tell+story/6960113/story.html It would seem there are those looking deeper and questioning the Conservative narrative... -------------- According to the IMF, Canada’s net debt in 2011 was 33.3 per cent. That’s good. It’s better than Germany’s (56.1 per cent). It’s better than that of most other developed countries’. And it’s vastly better than that of France (80.4 per cent) and Italy (99.6 per cent). But it’s worse than Canada’s net debt in 2006 (26.3 per cent), when Stephen Harper took office. It’s also worse than the 2011 net debt of the Netherlands (31.8 per cent). And it’s much worse than the 2011 net debt of Denmark (2.6 per cent). And it’s positively horrible compared to the net debt of Sweden (-21.4 per cent). And Finland — which, as we have seen, has a net debt of -59.9 per cent. How can Sweden and Finland have negative net debt? They have overflowing public pension funds. So their total public assets exceed their total public liabilities. Which is a sweet position to be in. Norway is in an even better position, with a net debt of -168.1 per cent. But that’s because they’re making big money from oil, and, unlike Alberta, they’re saving it. Read more: http://www.ottawacitizen.com/business/Europe+caricatures+tell+story/6960113/story.html#ixzz21MdDx09I Quote
wyly Posted July 22, 2012 Report Posted July 22, 2012 Why do we have democracy if the electorate is stupid ? I think that it's possible to create areas of discussion (publics) that can evaluate things at a more detailed level. i like your optimism...we have a societies of "know it all's" who feel no need to acquire any more knowledge than required for a knee jerk reaction...what we need a political leader that has the balls to tell it like it is...and I know you won't want to here this but proportional representation, our FPTP stifles discussion and progress, the perpetual chasing after majority governments makes party ideology rigid, no one or no party dares think outside the box for fear of being punished electorally or by their party... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
wyly Posted July 22, 2012 Report Posted July 22, 2012 (edited) [quote name='madmax' date='22 July 2012 - 09:04 AM' According to the IMF, Canada’s net debt in 2011 was 33.3 per cent. That’s good. It’s better than Germany’s (56.1 per cent). It’s better than that of most other developed countries’. And it’s vastly better than that of France (80.4 per cent) and Italy (99.6 per cent). But it’s worse than Canada’s net debt in 2006 (26.3 per cent), when Stephen Harper took office. It’s also worse than the 2011 net debt of the Netherlands (31.8 per cent). And it’s much worse than the 2011 net debt of Denmark (2.6 per cent). And it’s positively horrible compared to the net debt of Sweden (-21.4 per cent). And Finland — which, as we have seen, has a net debt of -59.9 per cent. How can Sweden and Finland have negative net debt? They have overflowing public pension funds. So their total public assets exceed their total public liabilities. Which is a sweet position to be in. Norway is in an even better position, with a net debt of -168.1 per cent. But that’s because they’re making big money from oil, and, unlike Alberta, they’re saving it.it certainly demonstrates the lie that is the conservative claim to be better financial managers than socialists... conservative alberta with similar population and much more oil than Norway is positively incompetent in comparison to Norway's financial acumen Edited July 22, 2012 by wyly Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
cybercoma Posted July 22, 2012 Author Report Posted July 22, 2012 Being better financial managers is the lie they perpetrate to get their base to keep voting for them. The rest of society knows this is utter BS. Quote
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