Newfoundlander Posted February 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 NDP boasts nearly 130,000 voters for leaderOTTAWA - The federal New Democratic Party says it has nearly 130,000 card-carrying members across the country who will be eligible to vote next month for a new leader of the official Opposition. The cutoff date for selling new memberships in order to vote in the March 24 election was on the weekend. The NDP says it has sold 128,351 memberships. More than 44,000 memberships were sold since the race began. Voters from two provinces hold a hefty majority. In B.C. there are 38,735 New Democrats and in Ontario there are 36,760. Combined, that means New Democrats from just those two provinces make up 59% of the party's eligible-to-vote membership. In the House of Commons, though, 58% of the 101 NDP MPs are from Quebec. And while the NDP has seen its membership grow in Quebec by 600% during the leadership race, there are still just 12,266 members there or about 9.6% of all those eligible to vote. By comparison, 14,039 Quebecers voted in the Bloc Quebecois leadership race that saw Daniel Paille succeed Gilles Duceppe. Neither the Liberals nor the Conservatives would release their membership numbers. Here's the NDP membership rundown by province: Alta.: 10,249 members, 8.0% of party membership B.C.: 38,735 members, 30.2% Man.: 12,056 members, 9.4% N.B.: 955 members, 0.7% N.L.: 1,030 members, 0.8% N.S.: 3,844 members, 3.0% N.W.T./Nunanvut/Y.T.: 924 members, 0.7% Ont.: 36,760 members, 28.6% P.E.I.: 268 members, 0.2% Que.: 12,266 members, 9.6% Sask.: 11,264 members, 8.8% http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/canada/archives/2012/02/20120221-152820.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fellowtraveller Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 That is great news on the surge in NDP membership. Turns out that the NDP doesn't need federal voter funding after all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundlander Posted February 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 That is great news on the surge in NDP membership. Turns out that the NDP doesn't need federal voter funding after all! The membership numbers aren't that great when you consider how many members the Conservatives had during their 2004 leadership convention and the Liberals in 2006. CPC sold memberships over a three month window December 2003-March 2004.251,000 members, 109,000 new members (source: Globe and Mail. March 12, 2004) LPC sold memberships over a three month window April 2006-June 2006. 185,000 members; 92,000 new members (source: Canadian Press, July 15, 2006) Comparatively, the NDP sold memberships over a five month window October 2011-February 2012. 128,351 members; 39,219 new members (source: NDP, Pundit’s Guide reports 44% increase from September 1 2011) http://www.stephentaylor.ca/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 It's the NDP. They're not that great considering that they're historically the 3rd party? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fellowtraveller Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 The membership numbers aren't that great when you consider how many members the Conservatives had during their 2004 leadership convention and the Liberals in 2006. http://www.stephentaylor.ca/ Good news for all parties, nobody needs taxpayers money after all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundlander Posted February 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 (edited) It's the NDP. They're not that great considering that they're historically the 3rd party? The Conservative Party was brand new, and never ended up wining as much support in the 2004 election as the NDP did last May. The party also tries to pride themselves on being a grassroots party. Edited February 22, 2012 by Newfoundlander Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundlander Posted February 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 Good news for all parties, nobody needs taxpayers money after all! Membership has little to do with raising money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 The Conservative Party was brand new, and never ended up wining as much support in the 2004 election as the NDP did last May. The party also tries to pride themselves on being a grassroots party. Oh come on. The Conservative Party was the only party on the Right and for all intents and purposes was still identified with the Progressive Conservative Party. Hell, they're still called the Tories in the media. Whether ideologically they are or not is an entirely other matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fellowtraveller Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 Membership has little to do with raising money. Ah, you must belong to the traditional wing of the Liberal Party of Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundlander Posted February 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 Ah, you must belong to the traditional wing of the Liberal Party of Canada. Not all members give money to their parties, just as non-members donate to parties. The Liberals have significantly few members then the NDP, yet they do better in fundraising. The NDPs membership also includes people who signed up to be a member of a provincial party, and that doesn't neceassrily mean they give money to the federal wing or even support it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 The membership numbers aren't that great when you consider how many members the Conservatives had during their 2004 leadership convention and the Liberals in 2006. http://www.stephentaylor.ca/ Considering the 2006 Leadership campaign destroyed the Liberal party because almost everyone of their new memberships were paid for by those running I will take this over the 2006 Liberal leadership anyday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punked Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 Ah, you must belong to the traditional wing of the Liberal Party of Canada. You can say that again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundlander Posted February 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 Ah, you must belong to the traditional wing of the Liberal Party of Canada. I should also add that's a great attack. Do you belong to the commie wing of the NDP like one of our other commenters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWTT Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 The membership numbers aren't that great when you consider how many members the Conservatives had during their 2004 leadership convention and the Liberals in 2006. You are looking at this wrong. In the last election the membership numbers pulled out a strong vote=efficiency. With a signifigant greater membership role call the turnout at the next election will be greater still! Aswell this is just another indicator that the momentum is still strengthening for the NDP,not weekening! If I was a liberal or conservative I would be very concerned. WWWTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundlander Posted February 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 You are looking at this wrong. In the last election the membership numbers pulled out a strong vote=efficiency. With a signifigant greater membership role call the turnout at the next election will be greater still! Aswell this is just another indicator that the momentum is still strengthening for the NDP,not weekening! If I was a liberal or conservative I would be very concerned. WWWTT Concerned that during less time they can sign up more members then the NDP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWTT Posted February 22, 2012 Report Share Posted February 22, 2012 Concerned that during less time they can sign up more members then the NDP? I guess if the liberals and conservatives live in the past they will have nothing to worry about. 2004 and 2006 was an eternity ago using political standards. WWWTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fellowtraveller Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 Not all members give money to their parties, just as non-members donate to parties. The Liberals have significantly few members then the NDP, yet they do better in fundraising. The NDPs membership also includes people who signed up to be a member of a provincial party, and that doesn't neceassrily mean they give money to the federal wing or even support it. So you think that having fewer members is an advantage for fundraising, and gaining members as the NDP have done is going to gain less money for the pParty. A new member plops down his $10, and that is the last that is expected? Since corporate and union donations are severely limited now, would it not be reasonable to expect the membership to donate? I know the traditional source of Liberal big bucks from Montreal ad agencies seems to have dwindled, where will the money come from now? Do you belong to the commie wing of the NDP like one of our other commenters? Yes, you got me nailed there. I'll have to decide between the Trotsky and Marxist factions at the next election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundlander Posted February 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 Saying that public subsidies for political parties is not needed if they have 100,000 plus members doesn't make any sense. People could have joined the NDP for as low as $5, and may not contribute anymore money till their membership expires and they buy another for $5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilter Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 What IS the latest news on the "race" --- haven't heard anything about the loser's race?? Who will lose this election & become the "leader" of this group of kindergärtner kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted February 23, 2012 Report Share Posted February 23, 2012 Saying that public subsidies for political parties is not needed if they have 100,000 plus members doesn't make any sense. People could have joined the NDP for as low as $5, and may not contribute anymore money till their membership expires and they buy another for $5. It's $10, butyeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWTT Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 If Topp wins this thing it is rumored that a Quebec NDP MP will step aside for a bi-election call for him to run in. WWWTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundlander Posted February 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 It's $10, butyeah. Depending where you live. I heard it's as low as $5 in some provinces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundlander Posted February 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 If Topp wins this thing it is rumored that a Quebec NDP MP will step aside for a bi-election call for him to run in. WWWTT It's not rumoured he said he'd ask one to resign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWTT Posted February 24, 2012 Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 It's not rumoured he said he'd ask one to resign. He would or already has? WWWTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundlander Posted February 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2012 He would or already has? WWWTT He has said he would ask a Quebec MP to resign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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