The pope worries about how others handle pedophiles?

[jacee]

The Pope Worries About How Others Handle Pedophiles?

Interesting statement from the Pope last week as he pointed out that all institutions need to dea with the issues that are involved with providing access to children for pedophiles.

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No public figure talks more about child safety but does little to actually make children safer than Pope Benedict... The pope would have us believe that this crisis is about sex abuse. It isn't. It is about covering up sex abuse... And while child sex crimes happen in every institution, in no institution are they ignored or concealed as consistently as in the Catholic church."

It is very true that the Catholic Church leadership should be looked at for guidance in handling these problems, but as a symbol of what not to do and not one of virtue.

There's no question all institutions and all programs for children must be upfront and thorough in addressing and preventing abuse.

But when did the pope ever do so!

Never.

He wrote and enforced the cover up policy.

He doesn't distinguish between homosexuality and pedophilia, and thinks both became ok in the sexual revolution of the 1970's:

“In the 1970s, paedophilia was theorised as something fully in conformity with man and even with children,” the Pope said.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/popersquos-child-porn-normal-claim-sparks-outrage-among-victims-15035449.html

"Even with children" ... ?

This pope is downright scary.

Eta

I'm putting this in the Canada section because I'd like to see some Canadian response to this monstrous idiot ... like he's not welcome here, for example. :angry:

Edited November 28, 2011 by jacee

[Tilter]

The Pope Worries About How Others Handle Pedophiles?

Interesting statement from the Pope last week as he pointed out that all institutions need to dea with the issues that are involved with providing access to children for pedophiles.

...

No public figure talks more about child safety but does little to actually make children safer than Pope Benedict... The pope would have us believe that this crisis is about sex abuse. It isn't. It is about covering up sex abuse... And while child sex crimes happen in every institution, in no institution are they ignored or concealed as consistently as in the Catholic church."

It is very true that the Catholic Church leadership should be looked at for guidance in handling these problems, but as a symbol of what not to do and not one of virtue.

There's no question all institutions and all programs for children must be upfront and thorough in addressing and preventing abuse.

But when did the pope ever do so!

Never.

He wrote and enforced the cover up policy.

He doesn't distinguish between homosexuality and pedophilia, and thinks both became ok in the sexual revolution of the 1970's:

“In the 1970s, paedophilia was theorised as something fully in conformity with man and even with children,” the Pope said.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/popersquos-child-porn-normal-claim-sparks-outrage-among-victims-15035449.html

"Even with children" ... ?

This pope is downright scary.

Eta

I'm putting this in the Canada section because I'd like to see some Canadian response to this monstrous idiot ... like he's not welcome here, for example. :angry:

For some entity that's not supposed to be able to make a mistake in religious matters he is out of his tree. Wingo--- Bubbles in his think tank. off his trolley.

Now, some may say that this isn't a religious matter but the some priests have followed a religious devotion to molesting kids ---- forever, and a pope that can ignore that & use the excuse that kiddy-porn & child/adult sex is becoming more normal these days should have his background & past relationships with kids examined very closely.

[jacee]

For some entity that's not supposed to be able to make a mistake in religious matters he is out of his tree. Wingo--- Bubbles in his think tank. off his trolley.

Now, some may say that this isn't a religious matter but the some priests have followed a religious devotion to molesting kids ---- forever, and a pope that can ignore that & use the excuse that kiddy-porn & child/adult sex is becoming more normal these days should have his background & past relationships with kids examined very closely.

Agreed!

We know one thing about former Bishop Ratzinger ...

He was the coverup man.

Pope 'led cover-up of child abuse by priests'

The Pope played a leading role in a systematic cover-up of child sex abuse by Roman Catholic priests, according to a shocking documentary to be screened by the BBC tonight. In 2001, while he was a cardinal, he issued a secret Vatican edict to Catholic bishops all over the world, instructing them to put the Church's interests ahead of child safety.

The document recommended that rather than reporting sexual abuse to the relevant legal authorities, bishops should encourage the victim, witnesses and perpetrator not to talk about it. And, to keep victims quiet, it threatened that if they repeat the allegations they would be excommunicated.

The Panorama special, Sex Crimes And The Vatican, investigates the details of this little- known document for the first time. The programme also accuses the Catholic Church of knowingly harbouring paedophile clergymen. It reveals that priests accused of child abuse are generally not struck off or arrested but simply moved to another parish, often to reoffend. It gives examples of hush funds being used to silence the victims.

Before being elected as Pope Benedict XVI in April last year, the pontiff was Cardinal Thomas Ratzinger who had, for 24 years, been the head of the powerful Congregation of the Doctrine of The Faith, the department of the Roman Catholic Church charged with promoting Catholic teachings on morals and matters of faith. An arch-Conservative, he was regarded as the 'enforcer' of Pope John Paul II in cracking down on liberal challenges to traditional Catholic teachings.

Five years ago he sent out an updated version of the notorious 1962 Vatican document Crimen Sollicitationis - Latin for The Crime of Vatican document Crimen Sollicitationis - Latin for The Crime of Solicitation - which laid down the Vatican's strict instructions on covering up sexual scandal. It was regarded as so secret that it came with instructions that bishops had to keep it locked in a safe at all times.

Cardinal Ratzinger reinforced the strict cover-up policy by introducing a new principle: that the Vatican must have what it calls Exclusive Competence. In other words, he commanded that all child abuse Competence. In other words, he commanded that all child abuse allegations should be dealt with direct by Rome.

Patrick Wall, a former Vatican-approved enforcer of the programme: "I found out I wasn't working for a holy institution, but an institution that was wholly concentrated on protecting itself."

And Father Tom Doyle, a Vatican lawyer until he was sacked for criticising the church's handling of child abuse claims, says: "What you have here is an explicit written policy to cover up cases of child sexual abuse by the clergy and to punish those who would call attention to these crimes by the churchmen.

"When abusive priests are discovered, the response has been not to investigate and prosecute but to move them from one place to another. So there's total disregard for the victims and for the fact that you are going to have a whole new crop of victims in the next place. This is happening all over the world."

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23369148-pope-led-cover-up-of-child-abuse-by-priests.do

He's a criminal.

And still dangerous.

He just told the world that child porn and sexual abuse are normal.

A warrant would be nice.

Edited November 30, 2011 by jacee

[Bonam]

The Church is an ancient and evil organization that has, over the past 2000 years, done more harm than almost any other institution in human history. The current Pope is no different, from his roots as a Nazi soldier to his role in the cover up of the Church's endemic violation of innocent children. Fortunately, fewer and fewer people seriously revere the Pope any more, as religion continues to fade away in most civilized areas of the world.

[Shwa]

The Church is an ancient and evil organization that has, over the past 2000 years, done more harm than almost any other institution in human history. The current Pope is no different, from his roots as a Nazi soldier to his role in the cover up of the Church's endemic violation of innocent children. Fortunately, fewer and fewer people seriously revere the Pope any more, as religion continues to fade away in most civilized areas of the world.

Really Bonam? Religion is fading away? Where?

PS - using your neighbourhood or apartment as an example is too small a sample.

[Tilter]

The Church is an ancient and evil organization that has, over the past 2000 years, done more harm than almost any other institution in human history. The current Pope is no different, from his roots as a Nazi soldier to his role in the cover up of the Church's endemic violation of innocent children. Fortunately, fewer and fewer people seriously revere the Pope any more, as religion continues to fade away in most civilized areas of the world.

First sentence should read

Religion is an ancient and evil organization that has, over the past millions of years, done more harm than almost any other institution in human history

Last sentence should read

fewer and fewer people seriously revere the Pope any more, as religion continues to fade away in most civilized areas of the world, (the USA excepted, a moot point as to the civilization aspect)

Edited November 30, 2011 by Tilter

[Bonam]

Really Bonam? Religion is fading away? Where?

Look at stats for Western countries.

[Bonam]

First sentence should read

True, it does apply to religion as a whole as well, but it applies to the Church specifically just as well.

[Shwa]

Look at stats for Western countries.

I see, so "Western countries" are synonymous with "civilized." Is this what your argument hinges on?

[Hydraboss]

I see, so "Western countries" are synonymous with "civilized." Is this what your argument hinges on?

Maybe doesn't hinge, but it's definitely true.

[Hydraboss]

The Pope is a hypocritical bastard. As leader of the Roman Cannibals ("body of Christ....nom nom nom"), he claims to support peace, reconciliation, love and all that - and then protects (by decree) those that rape children.

Real nice.

There is a (unfortunately true) video on the interwebs. Look up "Priest Off" for a very sick laugh.

By the numbers, far too many of these self-proclaimed "holy men" are child-raping fuckers and need a bad case of lead poisoning. The Pope, covering for them, is absolutely no better by any measure.