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[punked]

Check out Shady's party, not only did 2 congressmen miss the swearing in yesterday and thus didn't become congressmen but they also cast votes as non congressmen. Clearly in violation of the constitution which Republicans don't actually care about. Republicans spent the whole the whole day today sorting out the mess these two caused yesterday and changing the rules so their votes counted. Basically ignoring the constitution which Republicans pretend they care about.

But it also appears when missing the swearing in the two in question were holding a fund raiser on Capitol complex grounds which violates election law. Did take the republicans to show what their new congress would be like.

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/01/sleazy-but-legal-sessions-swearing-in-snafu-skirts-the-line.php?ref=fpb

Edited January 7, 2011 by punked

[Bitsy]

They are also doing some serious backpedaling....

http://thinkprogress.org/2011/01/06/house-gop-broken-promises/#

And then this 1.1 million dollar sop to the teabaggers.

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2011/01/how-much-will-it-cost-republicans-to-recite-the-constitution-on-the-house-floor.html

[punked]

Meet the new boss same as the old boss but dumber.

[Guest American Woman]

Check out Shady's party

Since Shady's not an American, it's hardly "[his] party."

not only did 2 congressmen miss the swearing in yesterday and thus didn't become congressmen but they also cast votes as non congressmen. Clearly in violation of the constitution which Republicans don't actually care about. Republicans spent the whole the whole day today sorting out the mess these two caused yesterday and changing the rules so their votes counted. Basically ignoring the constitution which Republicans pretend they care about.

I can certainly understand and share the criticism for the two involved, but why are you making this incident about the whole Republican party/all Republicans? I'm a Democrat, so I'm not responding defensively; I'd feel the same way if such an incident were being made out to be about "Democrats."

[punked]

Since Shady's not an American, it's hardly "[his] party."

I can certainly understand and share the criticism for the two involved, but why are you making this incident about the whole Republican party/all Republicans? I'm a Democrat, so I'm not responding defensively; I'd feel the same way if such an incident were being made out to be about "Democrats."

Probably because one of the two who was fund-raising was the chairman of the NRCC who was at the time fund raising on half of all the congressional republicans. Oh and because his leadership in the house told him as long he raised his hand at the same time as people were being sworn in that it be just fine if he wasn't there. You know the same day they forced a 1 million dollar reading of the Constitution on the floor. The Republicans probably did that because they clearly don't understand how the document works considering they can be swore in by raising your hand anywhere in the world at a certain time. It wasn't just this guy made this decision on his own the Republicans in congress made this decision and cleared it. So they kinda get the blame maybe you know read the article posted before you post on it.

[Guest American Woman]

Probably because one of the two who was fund-raising was the chairman of the NRCC who was at the time fund raising on half of all the congressional republicans.

Unless it was sanctioned/sponsored by the Republican party, the fact remains that it was still an incident involving two Representatives. And since it wasn't sanctioned/supported by the GOP, it remains about the two Representatives involved, not about "Republicans/the Republican party." Furthermore, just because one person does something on behalf of others, if the allegations are true, doesn't mean "others" are guilty, too. If someone does something illegal on your behalf, would that make you guilty?

Oh and because his leadership in the house told him as long he raised his hand at the same time as people were being sworn in that it be just fine if he wasn't there.

That was one person allegedly telling him that, not the GOP. Do you always take the actions of one or two people to represent the entire party?

You know the same day they forced a 1 million dollar reading of the Constitution on the floor. The Republicans probably did that because they clearly don't understand how the document works considering they can be swore in by raising your hand anywhere in the world at a certain time.

The GOP stopped the floor proceedings upon learning that the two hadn't been sworn in.

It wasn't just this guy made this decision on his own the Republicans in congress made this decision and cleared it. So they kinda get the blame maybe you know read the article posted before you post on it.

I generally read more than one source. Maybe you should do the same before you post. This incident is not about "the Republican party." It's about the two Representatives involved, and they have apologized. This is not behavior that is being sanctioned/supported by the GOP.

As I said, the actions of the two Congressmen in question cannot be defended. However, it's about them, not the Republican party/all Republicans.

[punked]

Unless it was sanctioned/sponsored by the Republican party, the fact remains that it was still an incident involving two Representatives. And since it wasn't sanctioned/supported by the GOP, it remains about the two Representatives involved, not about "Republicans/the Republican party." Furthermore, just because one person does something on behalf of others, if the allegations are true, doesn't mean "others" are guilty, too. If someone does something illegal on your behalf, would that make you guilty?

That was one person allegedly telling him that, not the GOP. Do you always take the actions of one or two people to represent the entire party?

The GOP stopped the floor proceedings upon learning that the two hadn't been sworn in.

I generally read more than one source. Maybe you should do the same before you post. This incident is not about "the Republican party." It's about the two Representatives involved, and they have apologized. This is not behavior that is being sanctioned/supported by the GOP.

As I said, the actions of the two Congressmen in question cannot be defended. However, it's about them, not the Republican party/all Republicans.

Got it holding a GOP fund raiser which was approved not only by the rules committee chairman, the house leader, the house whip and the National GOP itself, in which the chairman of the NRCC is not sanctioned by the GOP. Yeah sure you are being ridiculous, it is one thing if this was not a fund raiser for the NRCC itself during a swearing in ceremony but it wasn't. It was one where Session had to get the approval of many in the charge of the GOP because he was skipping that little thing in the Constitution which makes him a congressman. It was kinda a big slip by the Party not one or two people.

Yep stopped the floor proceedings but not the votes in the rules committee in which Sessions was voting. This was because the needed to push through their repeal as fast as they could. In fact upon learning all his voted were invalid what they did was go back and change the rules. Again facts.

Again it wasn't two Reps it was a number of Reps most of who are the ones in charge they are the also the ones who forced the reading of the Constitution on the floor at the cost of a million dollars with actually knowing you can;t have someone raise their hand anywhere in the world to be sworn in. If you think the chairman of the NRCC can skip a swearing in ceremony with out the approval of the house leadership then you are being naive.