wulf42 Posted September 28, 2010 Report Posted September 28, 2010 For seeing the light and tossing out the Liberals ,today a Torie Majority in New Brunswick tomorrow it will be a Torie Majority in Canada. http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nbvotes2010/story/2010/09/27/nbvotes-election-main-718.html#socialcomments-submit Quote
charter.rights Posted September 28, 2010 Report Posted September 28, 2010 For seeing the light and tossing out the Liberals ,today a Torie Majority in New Brunswick tomorrow it will be a Torie Majority in Canada. http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nbvotes2010/story/2010/09/27/nbvotes-election-main-718.html#socialcomments-submit That doesn't look good for the federal Conservatives. Traditionally when a provincial government turns conservative it means they will vote Liberal federally. Quote “Safeguarding the rights of others is the most noble and beautiful end of a human being.” Kahlil Gibran “Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.” Albert Einstein
bloodyminded Posted September 28, 2010 Report Posted September 28, 2010 (edited) For seeing the light and tossing out the Liberals ,today a Torie Majority in New Brunswick tomorrow it will be a Torie Majority in Canada. http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nbvotes2010/story/2010/09/27/nbvotes-election-main-718.html#socialcomments-submit We were right to toss out the Liberals. But don't get confused between the NB Progressive Conservatives and the Federal Conservative Party. The NB PCs are no different, ideologically, from the NB Liberals. I'm not exaggerating in the slightest. There are no differences of principle between the two. Our Progressive conservatives are not right-wingers: they're centrists. So are our Liberals. So, Nbers voted, with good sense, to get the current incompetents out. Job done. There wasn't even any rancor, any heated debates among the public. Because there are no distinctions (aside from, hopefully, competence) to argue about. Personally, I voted NDP. Hope springs eternal. Zero seats! Edited September 28, 2010 by bloodyminded Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
wulf42 Posted September 28, 2010 Author Report Posted September 28, 2010 We were right to toss out the Liberals. But don't get confused between the NB Progressive Conservatives and the Federal Conservative Party. The NB PCs are no different, ideologically, from the NB Liberals. I'm not exaggerating in the slightest. There are no differences of principle between the two. Our Progressive conservatives are not right-wingers: they're centrists. So are our Liberals. So, Nbers voted, with good sense, to get the current incompetents out. Job done. There wasn't even any rancor, any heated debates among the public. Because there are no distinctions (aside from, hopefully, competence) to argue about. Personally, I voted NDP. Hope springs eternal. Zero seats! Maybe, but it can't be good news for the Liberals when the Maritimes starts voting Conservative! You know the Liberals are in trouble when that starts to happen. Quote
bloodyminded Posted September 28, 2010 Report Posted September 28, 2010 (edited) Maybe, but it can't be good news for the Liberals when the Maritimes starts voting Conservative! You know the Liberals are in trouble when that starts to happen. We've had our share of Liberal governments, to be sure, but voting in the Conservatives (or I should say the Progressive Conservatives) is nothing new. For example, previous to the one-term Liberal Shawn Graham, we had a two term PC Premier, Bernard Lord. So it's not exactly a monumental shake-up in NB politics; it's business as usual, very normal. (In fact, Lord had a bigger majority than does our new PC Premier.) I think you're misinformed about the "Liberal" status of New Brunswick. Unlike Alberta and Quebec, we don't adhere fanatically to partisan lines. Edited September 28, 2010 by bloodyminded Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
Evening Star Posted October 1, 2010 Report Posted October 1, 2010 The NB PCs are no different, ideologically, from the NB Liberals. On another board, someone argued that the NB PCs are, if anything, a little left of the NB Liberals. Quote
punked Posted October 1, 2010 Report Posted October 1, 2010 On another board, someone argued that the NB PCs are, if anything, a little left of the NB Liberals. I would agree. The Liberals wanted to cut taxes more then the PCs god only can know whey when NB is running Billion dollar deficits but to each their own. Quote
capricorn Posted October 1, 2010 Report Posted October 1, 2010 The Liberals wanted to cut taxes more then the PCs god only can know whey when NB is running Billion dollar deficits but to each their own. Must have been that Liberal fiscal acumen at play again. Mere mortals such as we cannot possibly comprehend. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Dave_ON Posted October 1, 2010 Report Posted October 1, 2010 We've had our share of Liberal governments, to be sure, but voting in the Conservatives (or I should say the Progressive Conservatives) is nothing new. For example, previous to the one-term Liberal Shawn Graham, we had a two term PC Premier, Bernard Lord. So it's not exactly a monumental shake-up in NB politics; it's business as usual, very normal. (In fact, Lord had a bigger majority than does our new PC Premier.) I think you're misinformed about the "Liberal" status of New Brunswick. Unlike Alberta and Quebec, we don't adhere fanatically to partisan lines. It always amuses me when folks attempt to draw parallels between provincial and federal politics, when truly neither have anything to do with other in terms of party association. Especially in NB which has a unique cultural divide, namely French/English that doesn't really exist anywhere else in Canada. NB has traditionally always had the opposite government in provincially that is present federally. PC Lord during the Chretien years, LPC McKenna during the Mulroney years, etc. In fact if anything this would indicate bad news for the CPC if the trend holds true. On a side note, when I lived in NB the only truly "hard line partisans" were of a linguistic nature. In the cases that existed French tend to be LPC and English tend PC. The only real hardcore partisans that come to mind in NB would have been the CORE party, now that was an interesting party. Quote Follow the man who seeks the truth; run from the man who has found it. -Vaclav Haval-
Shwa Posted October 1, 2010 Report Posted October 1, 2010 It always amuses me when folks attempt to draw parallels between provincial and federal politics, when truly neither have anything to do with other in terms of party association. Especially in NB which ... if anything this would indicate bad news for the CPC if the trend holds true. What? It looks like you are drawing a parallel between provincial and federal politics. Quote
bloodyminded Posted October 4, 2010 Report Posted October 4, 2010 On a side note, when I lived in NB the only truly "hard line partisans" were of a linguistic nature. In the cases that existed French tend to be LPC and English tend PC. The only real hardcore partisans that come to mind in NB would have been the CORE party, now that was an interesting party. Definitely. There's still some residual pieces of this group floating around...protesting Acadian flags, that sort of thing. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
Dave_ON Posted October 13, 2010 Report Posted October 13, 2010 What? It looks like you are drawing a parallel between provincial and federal politics. Umm nope, I'm observing a historical trend. As mentioned if the trend holds true, not that it will, but if it does then this is in fact bad news for the CPC not good news as the OP is attempting to posit. Quote Follow the man who seeks the truth; run from the man who has found it. -Vaclav Haval-
jefferiah Posted October 21, 2010 Report Posted October 21, 2010 On another board, someone argued that the NB PCs are, if anything, a little left of the NB Liberals. In some cases (in certain respects) I think NB Liberals have been more conservative than a lot of conservatives. Frank McKenna was pretty socially conservative. Politics here can be confusing. Quote "Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu
jefferiah Posted October 21, 2010 Report Posted October 21, 2010 The only real hardcore partisans that come to mind in NB would have been the CORE party, now that was an interesting party. CoR Party. Confederation of Regions Quote "Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu
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