Topaz Posted January 31, 2009 Report Posted January 31, 2009 http://www.montrealgazette.com/Business/hi...8029/story.html It looks like that the PM has burn his bridges with the Bloc and so I guess the PM doesn't think he'll need his help in the future or the NDP's for that matter. Depending on what amends are in the budget, the Libs could be in trouble also with some of the premiers. Quote
Wild Bill Posted January 31, 2009 Report Posted January 31, 2009 http://www.montrealgazette.com/Business/hi...8029/story.html It looks like that the PM has burn his bridges with the Bloc and so I guess the PM doesn't think he'll need his help in the future or the NDP's for that matter. Depending on what amends are in the budget, the Libs could be in trouble also with some of the premiers. Um, don't you think that Duceppe signing the Coalition might have had just a wee, teensy-weensy thing to do with it? Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
Topaz Posted January 31, 2009 Author Report Posted January 31, 2009 Um, don't you think that Duceppe signing the Coalition might have had just a wee, teensy-weensy thing to do with it? Are you saying that the PM is getting revenge on the Bloc for doing so? IF, you are, what does that say about Harper? IF yes, then Willams may be right about Harper too. Why does Harper always have to have someone saying he's treating them unfairly? Harper seems more of a divider than a PM that should bring Canada together and treat provinces fairly. Quote
Progressive Tory Posted January 31, 2009 Report Posted January 31, 2009 Are you saying that the PM is getting revenge on the Bloc for doing so? IF, you are, what does that say about Harper? IF yes, then Willams may be right about Harper too. Why does Harper always have to have someone saying he's treating them unfairly? Harper seems more of a divider than a PM that should bring Canada together and treat provinces fairly. Maybe since he heard that Charest is one of the people vying for his job, he's become 'chilly' toward the Premier. This isn't over yet. The budget vote on monday could be very interesting. We keep forgetting that Duceppe and Charest were elected by the people of Quebec to represent their interests. It's their job to challenge anything that doesn't have those interests at heart. Shutting up means not doing their job. Quote "For all our modesty and self-deprecation, we’re a people who dream great dreams. And then roll up our sleeves and turn them into realities." - Michael Ignatieff "I would not want the Prime Minister to think that he could simply fail in the House of Commons as a route to another General Election. That's not the way our system works." Stephen Harper.
Martin Chriton Posted January 31, 2009 Report Posted January 31, 2009 (edited) http://www.montrealgazette.com/Business/hi...8029/story.html It looks like that the PM has burn his bridges with the Bloc and so I guess the PM doesn't think he'll need his help in the future or the NDP's for that matter. Depending on what amends are in the budget, the Libs could be in trouble also with some of the premiers. I'd say it's more like the Bloc and NDP burned their bridges with the PM by not even considering to work with the CPC on the budget. They're both now irrelevant until the next election. Edited January 31, 2009 by Martin Chriton Quote
Argus Posted January 31, 2009 Report Posted January 31, 2009 Maybe since he heard that Charest is one of the people vying for his job, he's become 'chilly' toward the Premier. Charest? Vying for Harper's job? Talk about burning your bridges. Conservatives will never accept Charest back. Don't know about Conservatives, of course. Their standards seem pretty elastic. We keep forgetting that Duceppe and Charest were elected by the people of Quebec to represent their interests. It's their job to challenge anything that doesn't have those interests at heart. Shutting up means not doing their job. The difference is, with the exception of Danny Williams, all the others understand they are part of a whole, and that the whole cannot be harmed merely for their benefit. Charest and Duceppe could not possibly care less what happens to Canada outside Quebec, as long as they can milk it for as much money as possible. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Progressive Tory Posted February 1, 2009 Report Posted February 1, 2009 Charest? Vying for Harper's job? Talk about burning your bridges. Conservatives will never accept Charest back. Don't know about Conservatives, of course. Their standards seem pretty elastic. I never said he would get Harper's job. Only that his name was on the list of people that are being considered, including Bernard Lord (who I hadn't heard of but looked up), Peter MacKay and Jim Prentice. The Globe and Mail provide a longer list, but not all are credible. Who will replace Stephen Harper? Quote "For all our modesty and self-deprecation, we’re a people who dream great dreams. And then roll up our sleeves and turn them into realities." - Michael Ignatieff "I would not want the Prime Minister to think that he could simply fail in the House of Commons as a route to another General Election. That's not the way our system works." Stephen Harper.
Progressive Tory Posted February 1, 2009 Report Posted February 1, 2009 I'd say it's more like the Bloc and NDP burned their bridges with the PM by not even considering to work with the CPC on the budget. They're both now irrelevant until the next election. Unless the NDP choose a new leader, they will also be irrelevant next election. The Bloc only has to answer to Quebec. All other parties must answer to the entire country, including Quebec. Quote "For all our modesty and self-deprecation, we’re a people who dream great dreams. And then roll up our sleeves and turn them into realities." - Michael Ignatieff "I would not want the Prime Minister to think that he could simply fail in the House of Commons as a route to another General Election. That's not the way our system works." Stephen Harper.
Molly Posted February 1, 2009 Report Posted February 1, 2009 I found the comments in that G&M link danged amusing. For those confident and loyal Tories among 'em I must say: The upstanding patriot in me could live with Prentice, but the vindictive shadow within my nature would relish Harper hanging around as long as possible. Quote "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!" — L. Frank Baum "For Conservatives, ministerial responsibility seems to be a temporary and constantly shifting phenomenon," -- Goodale
Progressive Tory Posted February 3, 2009 Report Posted February 3, 2009 I found the comments in that G&M link danged amusing. For those confident and loyal Tories among 'em I must say: The upstanding patriot in me could live with Prentice, but the vindictive shadow within my nature would relish Harper hanging around as long as possible. I have to be honest, I think I'd miss him as well. He certainly sparks debate. However, the patriot in me also knows how bad he is for this country and how much our International reputation has sufferered in the last three years. The patriot in me also wants the next Conservative leader to the best that the Party has to offer. I will still vote Liberal this time around, but if the Conservatives do win, I want them to govern well. Quote "For all our modesty and self-deprecation, we’re a people who dream great dreams. And then roll up our sleeves and turn them into realities." - Michael Ignatieff "I would not want the Prime Minister to think that he could simply fail in the House of Commons as a route to another General Election. That's not the way our system works." Stephen Harper.
ToadBrother Posted February 3, 2009 Report Posted February 3, 2009 Maybe since he heard that Charest is one of the people vying for his job, he's become 'chilly' toward the Premier.This isn't over yet. The budget vote on monday could be very interesting. We keep forgetting that Duceppe and Charest were elected by the people of Quebec to represent their interests. It's their job to challenge anything that doesn't have those interests at heart. Shutting up means not doing their job. It will pass. There isn't enough dissent in the Liberal ranks to bring down the Government right now. Quote
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