Mayor Miller....puts forth another ban.

[Oleg Bach]

That slow talking Miller is at it again. First he wants to ban hand guns that are all ready banned. Now Miller wants to attempt to ban plastic shopping bags by having the check out lady at the grocery store charge 5 cents a plastic bag...Hate to break it to this cutting edge environmental case - but almost all supermarkets ALREADY CHARGE FIVE CENTS A BAG. It is already common practice. Don't these people at Toronto City Hall ever go shopping? Don't they realize that short fire arms have been banned since the early 30s in Canada...other than law enforcement and law biding sports shooters and collectors?

NOW to glorify himself and that council of mentally and socially underdeveloped careerists - He wants to re-do the square in front of City Hall - at a cost of millions that he has not recieved yet - the square looks fine to me - maybe he wants a statue of himself and ALL the councillors - who will bicker at public cost on who's statue stands the closest to that of Millers....Funny how all socialist who gain some power - want to be frinking famous. Only once did I witness this these city fathers and mothers debate - firstly I was struck at the low quality of character and intelligence - WHY have we in Toronto hired the most stupid to run the show? I don't get it!

[madmax]

That slow talking Miller is at it again. First he wants to ban hand guns that are all ready banned. Now Miller wants to attempt to ban plastic shopping bags by having the check out lady at the grocery store charge 5 cents a plastic bag...Hate to break it to this cutting edge environmental case - but almost all supermarkets ALREADY CHARGE FIVE CENTS A BAG. It is already common practice. Don't these people at Toronto City Hall ever go shopping? Don't they realize that short fire arms have been banned since the early 30s in Canada...other than law enforcement and law biding sports shooters and collectors?

Like many politicians who change their stripes, Mr. Miller dropped his NDP roots a few years back, and essentially endorsed the GP last election.

Enjoy

Original CBC article

Toronto mayor suggests Greens best bet for cities

Last Updated: Wednesday, September 17, 2008

Toronto Mayor David Miller waded into the federal election campaign on Tuesday.

He spoke about the need for a ban on handguns on a day that saw three homicides in the GTA, as well as the shooting of a 16-year-old in a city high school.

But Miller also pointed out that so far, only the Green party has directly addressed the growing needs of Canadian cities.

Edited November 26, 2008 by madmax

[Oleg Bach]

Putting my pride aside for a moment - what is GP? Inform me.

[madmax]

Putting my pride aside for a moment - what is GP? Inform me.

I use it as short for Green party. But it isn't catching on, so don't worry.

[Oleg Bach]

Folks don't get what a Green Party is - If you go back to Germany by about 30 years it originated in government with some long haired anti-establishent types..who wanted to tear down the existing order but really did not have anything viable to replace it with - Most Canadians actually believe that the Greens are like trees and grass and all that nice environmentalist stuff - They are radicals with a religious zeal and hate of civilization as we know it.

[Frank]

Folks don't get what a Green Party is - If you go back to Germany by about 30 years it originated in government with some long haired anti-establishent types..who wanted to tear down the existing order but really did not have anything viable to replace it with - Most Canadians actually believe that the Greens are like trees and grass and all that nice environmentalist stuff - They are radicals with a religious zeal and hate of civilization as we know it.

It actually originated in the U.S. about 1911 and was in direct response to the sudden expansion of industrial manufacturing sectors whose careless build up was devouring resort and vacation properties favored by the spouses of several corporate executives. The execs were selling their own substantial property holdings to their own Corps. at very profitable rates. A heated argument between a Rockefeller and his wife at a Henry Ford dinner party is quoted as the birth of the term, she was heard to say " I should not have to give up my peaceful green space when you have so many other suitable lands." In support of her argument, another execs. wife arranged a "Tea" and invited other women to join them in forming a coallition to lobby their husbands to "Keep it Green."

Just one version of history, several other countries also claim to be the birth place of the "Green Movement" but all are credited between 1935-1940.

The German group you refer to were dissatisfied students(is there another type?)and they just used the "Green theme" to garner the support of other students who were actually afraid to directly support an anti-Govt. movement for fear of reprisals in the form of proposed cost increases in education.

[Oleg Bach]

Down with the peasant rebels...he's a simple man trying to do his best but is a common man with a law degree - there are thousands of them ---------------who never go over Trotsky in university.

[guyser]

Now Miller wants to attempt to ban plastic shopping bags by having the check out lady at the grocery store charge 5 cents a plastic bag...Hate to break it to this cutting edge environmental case - but almost all supermarkets ALREADY CHARGE FIVE CENTS A BAG. It is already common practice. Don't these people at Toronto City Hall ever go shopping?

I shop, and I dont ever recall paying for a bag. Oh wait, whats the name of that cheapie grocery store chain , is it Mr Grocer who asks for bag money?

Anyhow Loblaws and Dominion....oops Metro , dont charge.

Bags are a pain in the ass for the environment, and people dont need more everyday.

[Oleg Bach]

I shop, and I dont ever recall paying for a bag. Oh wait, whats the name of that cheapie grocery store chain , is it Mr Grocer who asks for bag money?

Anyhow Loblaws and Dominion....oops Metro , dont charge.

Bags are a pain in the ass for the environment, and people dont need more everyday.

No Frills has been charging 5 cents a bag..for a long while. Miller should not be going on about skimming a nickle a bag - bring your own bag...a cloth one...Miller is not interested in the environment - just power and money...just like everyone else.

[Chuck U. Farlie]

No Frills has been charging 5 cents a bag..for a long while. Miller should not be going on about skimming a nickle a bag - bring your own bag...a cloth one...Miller is not interested in the environment - just power and money...just like everyone else.

Last I heard a group of small grocers where challenging this saying that Miller et al can't tell them what to charge for a product that they sell.

If they want to charge for bags or charge nothing for bags, that is their choice... just like if they wanted to give away apples, they can.

[Oleg Bach]

Last I heard a group of small grocers where challenging this saying that Miller et al can't tell them what to charge for a product that they sell.

If they want to charge for bags or charge nothing for bags, that is their choice... just like if they wanted to give away apples, they can.

Miller= no logic! You would think that he would be lobbying the packageing accociations and actually get rid of the bags. But no! He wants the continuation of the manufacture of little plastic bags - and does not seem to worry about the millions of tons of other packageing being sent off to destroy the Michigan land scape...seems he likes the money more than the trees - I wonder if he realized that he is NOT an invironmentalist or lover of nature - he believes a dog park pooped up and filled with liberal spinstresses is natural. Miller will tell the retailer to sell bags so he can steal the nickle and give it to his capitalist spirited socialist friends.