Smear tactics in Ottawa

[Who's Doing What?]

The problem with that though is that the "I don't know's" will be a lie, clearly he does know exactly what was offered and when.

Either way, my bet is still that they will drop it.

You are correct.

One only has to look at the way the rest of Harper's Govt. has been run to know, without a doubt, anything that is going to be done has been cleared through the PM's office the same way as even a simple press release by an MP has been.

For him to be so controlling over every aspect of this govt. and and his party, and then to say he had no idea what was going on in regards to an offer that carried the ballance of the most important HoC vote to date in his life, is simply absurd.

[Who's Doing What?]

I have no desire to be part of Shakey's anti-semitism. Apologies if standing up for Israel is something you take offence to.

LOL

Man you missed this on by a mile you had better jump aswell.

Let me take some pity on you and explain......

The funny part is that after all the railing against calling Harper "Steve' that has been witnessed on these boards he is repeatedly refered to as "STEVE" by a supporter.

The only anti-semitism in this is purely of your own making and in your own head.

[Who's Doing What?]

Ricki Bobbi frankly wasn't that bright.

LMFAO

I litterally laughed out loud when I read this.

[Who's Doing What?]

Ok now that is funny. Not that it isnt true. Is ricki bobbi still around?

YEs, but he is incognito. Shhhh don't let him know that you know......

[Who's Doing What?]

I must have missed something. What antisemitism is being referred to? That's a pretty serious charge.

There was none.

MB has his panties in knot over something he misunderstood.

[jdobbin]

There was none.

MB has his panties in knot over something he misunderstood.

Who was he accusing this time?

[Who's Doing What?]

Who was he accusing this time?

Shakey Hands

[Fortunata]

But did you take offence to the PC ads about Chretien's face in 1993? I would hope you did. The ad was horrible and offensive.

Of course I did. Chretien was to be admired for rising to the top in spite of is deformity. Not too many places in the world that can happen. I mean look where Steve is with those eyes.

[Shakeyhands]

Shakey Hands

I'm accused of being an anti-semite??????????????????? hahahaha.

Should I expect an apology letter?

[Kitchener]

If you are still pretending that you can't read my posts, then of course you missed something.

Shakey's offence was laughing at the statements of the leader of the Jewish state.

No explanation given or needed it appears.

The Israeli PM speaking in his second language causes shakey to laugh and LOL.

The condescension flows from his attitude to Stephen Harper and the CPC to the Jewish state. Utterly contemptuous of both.

And it didn't occur to you that the front and centre mention of "Steve" by "friend" Olmert wasn't a little humorous in the context of your railing about the use of that name? Or, heck, if you couldn't figure that one out, that there was just some other joke involved that you hadn't picked up?

The only conceivable interpretation the squirrel on that squeaky little treadmill could crank out was that Shakeyhands is a frickin anti-semite?

:lol:

Impossible to parody.

[Michael Bluth]

Who was he accusing this time?

Ahhh, so you are pretending to not be able to read my posts still. Classic! It's sorta tough, but people play along with you. Have fun dobbin!

I'm accused of being an anti-semite??????????????????? hahahaha.

Should I expect an apology letter?

Nah, hypocrisy pretty much sums it up. You are respectful, when it's convenient to you and the other parties aren't Jewish. Fair enough...

There was none.

MB has his panties in knot over something he misunderstood.

Seven posts in an hour. Your attention is appreciated.

Why the rush to support such virulent opposition to Israel from the representatives of the left on this board?

Is your hatred for everything to the right of Steph Dion so strong you can't see injustice and do the right thing? Or is the smear really the thing?

[jdobbin]

I'm accused of being an anti-semite??????????????????? hahahaha.

Should I expect an apology letter?

Perhaps you should sue.

[Michael Bluth]

Perhaps you should sue.

For someone whose slanderous charges of 'stalker boy' lead the mods to step in and stop the behaviour perhaps joking about potential litigation is inappropriate?

[Shakeyhands]

Perhaps you should sue.

Bah... can't. My name isn't Steve.

[jdobbin]

And it didn't occur to you that the front and centre mention of "Steve" by "friend" Olmert wasn't a little humorous in the context of your railing about the use of that name? Or, heck, if you couldn't figure that one out, that there was just some other joke involved that you hadn't picked up?

The only conceivable interpretation the squirrel on that squeaky little treadmill could crank out was that Shakeyhands is a frickin anti-semite?

:lol:

Impossible to parody.

I found it rather funny. If Olmert and Bush can call Harper by a diminutive, you wouldn't expect it it to be such a big deal for some posters. I personally don't use it myself and never have but you have to admit that it was the first name that Harper ever ran under in an election. What was that about? Was there pressure from Tory sources to do that? Was it the name that he used at the time? Why the change back and forth? And why is it a big deal now if someone uses one of the other?

To call someone antisemitic over this is beyond the pale. I've seen no evidence of that and it is an extremely serious charge. I'd like to see the case made for making such a claim.

[jdobbin]

Bah... can't. My name isn't Steve.

Good point. I suppose the only alternative is a public shaming of someone who makes smears of antisemitism.

[Shakeyhands]

I'd like to see the case made for making such a claim.

I heart Judaism!

[jdobbin]

I heart Judaism!

I always thought Shakey was a Jewish sounding name. heh

I wonder if we will see a continuing strategy of smears from the Tories after their new appointment to the PMO?

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/stor...?hub=TopStories

Prime Minister Stephen Harper's chief of staff is expected to step down from his post within weeks, CTV News has learned.

Sources told CTV News Wednesday night that Ian Brodie is set to leave his position -- most likely in July.

Earlier this year, the Tories were hounded by the opposition over reports of Brodie's alleged involvement in the so-called NAFTA-gate affair.

The affair dates back to the March leak of a Canadian consular document involving U.S. presidential hopeful Barack Obama.

The memo claimed that a senior adviser to Obama told Canadian diplomats that the presidential candidate isn't serious about renegotiating the NAFTA trade deal -- and suggested comments Obama would make on NAFTA are more about political posturing than a real policy plan.

In response, Harper launched a probe into the leak involving the Foreign Affairs Department. He also conducted an internal investigation. According to The Globe and Mail, a report has been completed, although it hasn't yet been released.

Brodie is expected to leave his post just ahead of the release of the report.

[Michael Bluth]

I heart Judaism!

Mocking the Jewish faith and completely ignoring the anti-semitism in your post is offensive to many.

That your buddy dobbin belittled the concerns, and attempted to make a joke of it proves the point that the left's ingrained problems with Jews and Judaism is quite disturbing.

[Keepitsimple]

I always thought Shakey was a Jewish sounding name. heh

I wonder if we will see a continuing strategy of smears from the Tories after their new appointment to the PMO?

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/stor...?hub=TopStories

Although slanted to the Star's usual bias, today's article has some useful information. Seeing as Giorno actually supported Belinda Stronach in the Conservative leadership race, it shows that Harper can still pick who he considers the best man for the job. This seems to tell a bit about the character of both Giorno and Harper. It certainly contrasts with the seeming inability of the Liberals (or at least tardiness) to put the Rae/Ignatieff/Dion leadership fiasco behind them.

One Conservative source said Giorno's appointment is intended to help improve media relations in the beleaguered PMO.

Giorno, a long-time political operative, did not support Harper in the 2004 Conservative leadership contest. Instead, he followed Harris, backing Belinda Stronach, who later defected to the Liberals. Giorno remains friends with Health Minister Tony Clement, who also ran against Harper and Stronach in that race.

Giorno is also friends with Environment Minister John Baird, government House leader Peter Van Loan and Finance Minister Jim Flaherty from their provincial Conservative party days.

At Queen's Park, Giorno was known as a hard-working taskmaster, the cerebral power behind Harris's populist throne.

He is a voracious reader, favouring literary political novels. Friends say the practising lawyer – he's a partner at Fasken Martineau DuMoulin LLP – has mellowed somewhat since getting married a few years ago, having a son and settling in Etobicoke.

While he remains one of the most outspoken public defenders of Harris's seven years as Ontario premier, the two men are not personally close and do not socialize.

Giorno, who at one time wrote a freelance column in the Star, has continued to dabble in provincial Tory politics and has said he would one day like to run for office.

Link: http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/428557

[jdobbin]

Although slanted to the Star's usual bias, today's article has some useful information. Seeing as Giorno actually supported Belinda Stronach in the Conservative leadership race, it shows that Harper can still pick who he considers the best man for the job. This seems to tell a bit about the character of both Giorno and Harper. It certainly contrasts with the seeming inability of the Liberals (or at least tardiness) to put the Rae/Ignatieff/Dion leadership fiasco behind them.

Harper picked who he thought was the best person prior. However, the art of the smear eventually undermined the former chief's support. I don't think you can blame the Liberals for the Obama leak.

I'm sorry if the last part continues to sound like "but the Liberals..."

[guyser]

Mocking the Jewish faith and completely ignoring the anti-semitism in your post is offensive to many.

Zing, still right over the top of your head. Ya need a bigger ladder.

Mocking...er no.

anti-semitism...er no.

But nice try, straight out of the Steve (as Olmert refers to him) handbook. Well read ...why you are just like a puppet boy.

That your buddy dobbin belittled the concerns, and attempted to make a joke of it proves the point that the left's ingrained problems with Jews and Judaism is quite disturbing.

Well if that were anywhere near the truth you would have a point. Sadly you aren't , and happily you don't.

Do you "D'oh" a lot?

[jdobbin]

anti-semitism...er no.

Exactly. It seems no one else on the right is coming to this poster's defence. Perhaps they are able to see the humour in it.

Such claims though definitely cross the line.

[Michael Bluth]

Well if that were anywhere near the truth you would have a point. Sadly you aren't , and happily you don't.

Defend the anti-semitism of the left all you want. Has the left completely disavowed the principles of fairness and freedom of religion? The continuing defence of the indefensible makes it clear that these left wing posters have.

I always thought Shakey was a Jewish sounding name. heh

Now your contempt shows itself. Who else on these boards has a "Jewish sounding name". Would you like to mandate that posters be identified in a certain manner. Something like the Star of David on the coats during the pogroms in WWII?

Exactly. It seems no one else on the right is coming to this poster's defence. Perhaps they are able to see the humour in it.

Such claims though definitely cross the line.

The poster whose name cannot be spoken? Right outta Harry Potter. Good on ya dobbin. Learn from the masters.

The only behaviour crossing the line is shakey's thinly veiled contempt for Israel and Judaism.

Edited May 22, 2008 by Michael Bluth

[jdobbin]

The rest of your post with the shrouded insults towards shakeyhands can be ignored.

Except for the bogus filled claims of antisemitism.