theloniusfleabag Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 Dear KK, Which countries or lands that were not 'oppressive' did Alexander bypass and leave alone their idiomatic laws and customs? (not sure myself, actually) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrustyKidd Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 All the known world he took. Ooops, 'freed' lol. Name one place in that time that was not oppressive Lonius. His stlye of Government was classic Greek. Progressive and although had a ruling class was copied by all democracies in some way or another. He was 'Alexander the Great' for a reason. Hannibal was not 'Great," either was Attila or Charlamene. They lacked the ability to keep what they won. They tried to rule, Alexander did not want to rule, he knew he couldn't. He knew he could only guide, influence. Keep his army free to influence others. He was not Great because he conquered, but because he was smart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hohenzollern Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 When I mentioned "good old fashioned alliances" I meant the ones where, you didn't get involved in war unless you can get some land, you need to protect your land, and if your ally or allies were in trouble. Now we have my country patroling the world as if it was under one government. Also, Charlemagne is aka Charles the Great or Charles der Gross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastNed Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 Hello, Hohen, welcome to the Forum. You ask, in effect, why America is acting like an Imperial Power and state: I meant the ones where, you didn't get involved in war unless you can get some land, you need to protect your land, and if your ally or allies were in trouble. There is a simple, uncomplicated answer: 9.11 , a second Day of Infamy. A sneak attack upon our homeland which killed our women and children and yes, our men as well. Forget the political B.S. (of any ideology) and remember one simply fact. At our core, the vast majority of us are truly "American Cowboys"! No one kills our women and children - no one! The sick deluded fools who planned and executed this terrorist and genocidal act did the one thing that would unite us around our contentious differences. They snuck into our home and killed our women and children. We Americans are the most deadly members of our species and we will pay the Ferryman's Fee for our dead in whatever coinage we believe necessary. We are at war to the knife with radical elements of Islam and Iraq is a mere battle and beachhead to our enemy. Iraq was D-Day and a placing of our forces in the lands of our enemy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hohenzollern Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 How does that relate????? Our homeland was attacked, and thus went to war. What I meant was, what happened to the days when if it didn't involve you, you stayed out of it????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrustyKidd Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 what happened to the days when if it didn't involve you, you stayed out of it????? Ah yes, the days before the world shrunk. The days when something happening on the other side of the world was not realised until a year or two later. The days when only armies that physically met could kill the other. Yes, sadly, those days are gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasputin Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 9-11 was an attack on Western civilisation not just America. If the Twin Towers had been in London and the world financial system still centred upon sterling and the world's political alliance system still premised on British naval and military balancing power, the fundamentalists would have struck at London, not NYC and Washington. 9-11 is an expression of fundamentalist rage, anger, incoherent maniacal evil and presaged a long, arduous war. It is not just America's war but as Bush and Blair have made clear with eloquent and factual statements, it is a war about freedom. Many non - Americans were killed on 9-11 and the world awoke from its somanbulism that morning to face a new menace. It is a world struggle, and isolationism is not the answer - in fact isolationism helped to abet and sponsor the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hohenzollern Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 True, but nations not willing to help slowed down the US from going to war with Iraq, and proved to be a nuisence. I am saying, if you are not involved, don't bother the people who are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
righturnonred Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 I am saying, if you are not involved, don't bother the people who are. They were involved. They we're protecting thier own interests, i.e. lucrative business contracts with Saddam at the expense of global security and the wellfare of the Iraqi people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theloniusfleabag Posted January 30, 2004 Report Share Posted January 30, 2004 Dear righturnonred, They were involved. They we're protecting thier own interests, i.e. lucrative business contracts with Saddam at the expense of global security and the wellfare of the Iraqi people.Are you describing the US? Or was that yesterday that the US did that? Or are you describing Free enterprise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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