no queenslave Posted November 26, 2007 Author Report Posted November 26, 2007 What law could Alberta pass that would not be legal and why? Quote
jawapunk Posted November 26, 2007 Report Posted November 26, 2007 Hey Queen, You could always take the red pill and get the hell out of the Matrix man.... also tin foil on your head doesn't actually work. Quote Leg room, there is none.
M.Dancer Posted November 27, 2007 Report Posted November 27, 2007 So...seriously...are you actually a mindless Bot or do you just pretend to be one? That should be copywritten Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
no queenslave Posted November 27, 2007 Author Report Posted November 27, 2007 That should be copywritten http://detaxcanada.org/kuhl.htm Walter F. Kuhl Quote
Rue Posted November 27, 2007 Report Posted November 27, 2007 The Statute of Westminster gave the people and each province their freedom and sovereignty; in order they could form a united Country or not. You can not give people 1/2 sovereignty; no more than make a woman 1/2 pregnant; it's all or nothing. In fact every province is a sovereign province ; or still a colony of Britain. Which do you want to defend? With due respect the Statute of Westminster did not and never intended to grant sovereignty to any province. Only the federal government has sovereignty. In a federated system only the federal government on an international basis has the right of sovereignty. I think you are mixing up the concept of exclusive jurisdiction designated provinces under the Constitutional Act with sovereignty. Even exclusive jurisdiction is subject to federal laws that can over-ride them in the event of national emergency. Technically the only legal entity other then the federal government with sovereignty are the aboriginal nations. Since their legal power pre-dated the confederation they have been recognized by our Supreme Court of Canada as a sovereign or parallel collective to the federal government so they are in fact sovereign and deal with federal government as a sovereign equal which is why legally they can but are not compelled to negotiate with provinces or municipalities. Now the exclusive jurisdiction a province has over certain areas is pretty much just that but you have to remember if the country declared itself in a state of war or emergency it can suspend just about any law in theory. Given the Charter of Rights and subsequent legal developments its highly unlikely a War Measures Act type law could last for too long unless a continuing present danger coulld be shown. All that said technically no province is sovereign because it can not supercede or ignore aboriginal legal rights which vest in the crown not the province. In a federated system, its very nature divides legal jurisdiction between two or more levels of government-it doesn't mean its granted sovereignty, just specific powers. Provinces are considered equals to each other but in practicality regional economic disparity makes that impossible and the reason we have equalization payments and certain provinces doing much better then others. Ultimately all business and commerce because of globalization is controlled by the US who we export 90% of our goods to and world economic markets such as China and India. Quote
no queenslave Posted November 27, 2007 Author Report Posted November 27, 2007 (edited) With due respect the Statute of Westminster did not and never intended to grant sovereignty to any province. Only the federal government has sovereignty. In a federated system only the federal government on an international basis has the right of sovereignty.I think you are mixing up the concept of exclusive jurisdiction designated provinces under the Constitutional Act with sovereignty. Even exclusive jurisdiction is subject to federal laws that can over-ride them in the event of national emergency. Technically the only legal entity other then the federal government with sovereignty are the aboriginal nations. Since their legal power pre-dated the confederation they have been recognized by our Supreme Court of Canada as a sovereign or parallel collective to the federal government so they are in fact sovereign and deal with federal government as a sovereign equal which is why legally they can but are not compelled to negotiate with provinces or municipalities. Now the exclusive jurisdiction a province has over certain areas is pretty much just that but you have to remember if the country declared itself in a state of war or emergency it can suspend just about any law in theory. Given the Charter of Rights and subsequent legal developments its highly unlikely a War Measures Act type law could last for too long unless a continuing present danger coulld be shown. All that said technically no province is sovereign because it can not supercede or ignore aboriginal legal rights which vest in the crown not the province. In a federated system, its very nature divides legal jurisdiction between two or more levels of government-it doesn't mean its granted sovereignty, just specific powers. Provinces are considered equals to each other but in practicality regional economic disparity makes that impossible and the reason we have equalization payments and certain provinces doing much better then others. Ultimately all business and commerce because of globalization is controlled by the US who we export 90% of our goods to and world economic markets such as China and India. and you were thought this ideology where? Where is your document creating a federation- signed by each province and ratified by a referendum of the people of each province. You are thinking of how a dictatorship operates not a democracy. The statute of Westminster was requested ,to give the people and Canada its sovereignty; if a democracy and sovereignty can be given to a government in power then it would of been done in Iraq and Afghanistan. Thechnically if aboriginal rights vest in the crown ; when the crown gave the people of Canada their sovereignty that made aboriginal rights nul and void; just like the rights of the former war lords in Afghanistan when their new constitution was created and ratified... If aboriginals want a sovereign country then say so and go to the U.N.and ask for the province of Quebec to be your sovereign country as it has already been recognized as a distinct society. What do you realy want?? Edited November 28, 2007 by no queenslave Quote
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