All provinces are SOVEREIGN

[no queenslave]

The Statute of Westminster gave the people and each province their freedom and sovereignty; in order they could form a united Country or not. You can not give people 1/2 sovereignty; no more than make a woman 1/2 pregnant; it's all or nothing. In fact every province is a sovereign province ; or still a colony of Britain. Which do you want to defend?

Edited October 30, 2007 by no queenslave

[Amazing Atheist]

The Statute of Westminster gave the people and each province their freedom and sovereignty; in order they could form a united Country or not. You can not give people 1/2 sovereignty; no more than make a woman 1/2 pregnant; it's all or nothing. In fact every province is a sovereign province ; or still a colony of Britain. Which do you want to defend?

Provinces are not sovereign and they are at the same time. All provinces share a symbiotic relationship with one another via the federal government in which all are represented although not equally and this yes does need to be fixed.

People move around for example many people in BC and Alberta are not from those provinces they just moved there for work etc.

Provinces are not sovereign in the regard that while they have provincial governments they are not their own nations for example they do not have there own currencies, armies and so on. At anytime a province could become a sovereign nation if they so choose to but I don't see this happening.

Each province is also not a British colony either for example NFLD was actually it's own sovereign nation until the 1950's and Saskatchewan was not a province until after Canada declared itself as a nation etc. Quebec was a French colony even before the Brits came.

Each province is a member of Canada and intertwined with one another and while some laws vary from province to province they all work together and do their part to contribute to the nation as a whole which is sovereign.

[Leafless]

The Statute of Westminster gave the people and each province their freedom and sovereignty; in order they could form a united Country or not. You can not give people 1/2 sovereignty; no more than make a woman 1/2 pregnant; it's all or nothing. In fact every province is a sovereign province ; or still a colony of Britain. Which do you want to defend?

The provinces, all but Quebec, relinquished freedom and sovereignty by agreeing to ratify the Constitution Act 1982.

[no queenslave]

Provinces are not sovereign and they are at the same time. All provinces share a symbiotic relationship with one another via the federal government in which all are represented although not equally and this yes does need to be fixed.

People move around for example many people in BC and Alberta are not from those provinces they just moved there for work etc.

Provinces are not sovereign in the regard that while they have provincial governments they are not their own nations for example they do not have there own currencies, armies and so on. At anytime a province could become a sovereign nation if they so choose to but I don't see this happening.

Each province is also not a British colony either for example NFLD was actually it's own sovereign nation until the 1950's and Saskatchewan was not a province until after Canada declared itself as a nation etc. Quebec was a French colony even before the Brits came.

Each province is a member of Canada and intertwined with one another and while some laws vary from province to province they all work together and do their part to contribute to the nation as a whole which is sovereign.

" NFLD was actually it's own sovereign nation until the 1950's " And you have some documented evidence to prove that?What currency were they using in 1949? What form of government did they have? Did the sovereign people of NFLD hold a referendum in order to join Canada?

SOVEREIGN. A body or state in which independent and supreme authority is vested . ( NO FOREIGN QUEEN)

NFLD was a colony not a SOVEREIGN nation.

[no queenslave]

The provinces, all but Quebec, relinquished freedom and sovereignty by agreeing to ratify the Constitution Act 1982.

The independent sovereign people did not ratify the 1982 constitution Act ; just the corrupt politicians. Quebec had a vote to separate , and it was defeated.

What former colony had a petition to separatet?

Edited October 30, 2007 by no queenslave

[guyser]

What form of government did they have?

A Representative Government.

Did the sovereign people of NFLD hold a referendum in order to join Canada?

Yes they did...twice.

[no queenslave]

A Representative Government.

Yes they did...twice.

What was the 2 dates the referendums were held on , and the vote??

[guyser]

What was the 2 dates the referendums were held on , and the vote??

June 3, 1948- 41.1% for Confederation , Responsible Government 44.6%, Commission Government 14.3%

Commision govt dropped for second ballot.

July 22 , 1948-Confeds 52.3% Resp Govt 47.7%

Conferation government won and NFLD joined Canada.

[no queenslave]

June 3, 1948- 41.1% for Confederation , Responsible Government 44.6%, Commission Government 14.3%

Commision govt dropped for second ballot.

July 22 , 1948-Confeds 52.3% Resp Govt 47.7%

Conferation government won and NFLD joined Canada.

And what referendum was held in Canada as to weather they wanted wanted NFLD to join them? What contract was signed between Canada and NFLD?

[guyser]

And what referendum was held in Canada as to weather they wanted wanted NFLD to join them? What contract was signed between Canada and NFLD?

Dude , if you want to move the goalposts everytime someone corrects your errors, you will be alone in no time.

You asked..."Did the sovereign people of NFLD hold a referendum in order to join Canada?"

And now you want to amend that to Canada?

Arent you the expert ?

Anyhow it was the "Terms of Union" they signed to join Canada.

Edited October 31, 2007 by guyser

[no queenslave]

Dude , if you want to move the goalposts everytime someone corrects your errors, you will be alone in no time.

You asked..."Did the sovereign people of NFLD hold a referendum in order to join Canada?"

And now you want to amend that to Canada?

Arent you the expert ?

Anyhow it was the "Terms of Union" they signed to join Canada.

Just because some sovereign country holds a referendum to join Canada , don't you think the people of Canada have a choice of allowing or not allowing that to happen?

If Alberta held a referendum to join the state of Montana and signed a terms of union document would that be legal ? The terms of union bill ,act was passed by what government

---And whereas Canada has requested and consented to the enactment of an act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom to...... his majesty..

What happened to the sovereignty of each as granted by the statute of Westminster and no British law applied or no law made by each is inoperative.

A TOTAL MESS OF CORRUPTION.

Edited October 31, 2007 by no queenslave

[guyser]

Just because some sovereign country holds a referendum to join Canada , don't you think the people of Canada have a choice of allowing or not allowing that to happen?

If Alberta held a referendum to join the state of Montana and signed a terms of union document would that be legal ? The terms of union bill ,act was passed by what government

Yes well ,go ahead and base your arguement on comparing an apple to a comquat.

Alberta is a province in Canada , surely I dont need to tell you that! That means they cannot just up and go without some debate and ultimately approval from Canada.

NFLD was not that way , they petitioned the British govt to join, and got the blessing.

From what I know there was not much debate about Canada going from sea to sea. No one complained and as such they were welcomed when they voted and decided to join. IIRC the Terms of Union were passed using input from joey Smallwood and his sojourn to Ottawa in late November of 1947. He went there to hashout the whys and hows of joining should the ref pass. The people of NFLD voted,accepted the fate, and signed the Union joining as per the Govt of Canada.

[Leafless]

The independent sovereign people did not ratify the 1982 constitution Act ; just the corrupt politicians.

Unfortunately, no one objected to the corrupt politicians ratifying the Constitution Act.

The Constitution Act is not even a constitution, it is a statute.

Edited October 31, 2007 by Leafless

[no queenslave]

Yes well ,go ahead and base your arguement on comparing an apple to a comquat.

Alberta is a province in Canada , surely I dont need to tell you that! That means they cannot just up and go without some debate and ultimately approval from Canada.

NFLD was not that way , they petitioned the British govt to join, and got the blessing.

From what I know there was not much debate about Canada going from sea to sea. No one complained and as such they were welcomed when they voted and decided to join. IIRC the Terms of Union were passed using input from joey Smallwood and his sojourn to Ottawa in late November of 1947. He went there to hashout the whys and hows of joining should the ref pass. The people of NFLD voted,accepted the fate, and signed the Union joining as per the Govt of Canada.

each were treated as colonies and it took an act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom for the union to become legal; the people of Canada had no say.

[no queenslave]

Yes well ,go ahead and base your arguement on comparing an apple to a comquat.

Alberta is a province in Canada , surely I dont need to tell you that! That means they cannot just up and go without some debate and ultimately approval from Canada.

NFLD was not that way , they petitioned the British govt to join, and got the blessing.

From what I know there was not much debate about Canada going from sea to sea. No one complained and as such they were welcomed when they voted and decided to join. IIRC the Terms of Union were passed using input from joey Smallwood and his sojourn to Ottawa in late November of 1947. He went there to hashout the whys and hows of joining should the ref pass. The people of NFLD voted,accepted the fate, and signed the Union joining as per the Govt of Canada.

Read the court case on the CLARITY ACT>

[no queenslave]

Terms of union was a British bill by which other North American colonies could join the colony of Canada on the same terms and conditions as the original 3 colonies. The B.N.A.Act split canada into the provinces of Ontario And Quebec. Their was no need for NFLD to negotiate anything with Canada as the terms of joining Canada were set by the terms of union bill ,passed long before NFLD joining Canada.

[guyser]

Terms of union was a British bill by which other North American colonies could join the colony of Canada on the same terms and conditions as the original 3 colonies. The B.N.A.Act split canada into the provinces of Ontario And Quebec. Their was no need for NFLD to negotiate anything with Canada as the terms of joining Canada were set by the terms of union bill ,passed long before NFLD joining Canada.

Your ammo consists of nerf balls , not to mention missing the mark by a mile. No negotiations? Well there were, w Ott and London . Read this..............

The negotiating team that went to Ottawa was composed of National Convention members Bradley, Smallwood, Albert Walsh, Chesley Crosbie, Gordon Winter, John McEvoy, and Philip Gruchy. They met with representatives from the Department of External Affairs, including Louis St. Laurent and Lester Pearson, as well as Prime Minister Mackenzie King. The teams worked for a period of approximately two months in 1948, using the draft terms from 1947 as a starting point. Although for the most part the process went smoothly, there were a few stumbling blocks, such as the provision of transitional payments to offset Newfoundland's deficit. The Canadian government was also reluctant to make firm commitments without a legislature present in Newfoundland. Eventually a mutually satisfactory agreement was completed on December 11, 1948. The terms agreed to were approved by an act of the Canadian Parliament. Later, at the request of the governments of Canada and Newfoundland, the British government passed the British North America Act, 1949 (since renamed the Newfoundland Act) to confirm the agreement.

Leave the goalposts where they are thank you. You are third and long so prep the hail mary.

[Moxie]

Well if Nova Scotia becomes a Sovereign State I decree that I Moxie shall be the Queen or Princess of my Nation. Hence Forth please address me as Her Royal Highness the Pain in the Arse. Or Princess Moxie for the cons.

[Hydraboss]

Hey Princess Moxie...(bows deeply)...now that you're royalty, would you mind taking queenie and doing the, uh, off-with-its-head-thing?

Just asking.

[no queenslave]

Hey Princess Moxie...(bows deeply)...now that you're royalty, would you mind taking queenie and doing the, uh, off-with-its-head-thing?

Just asking.

Spoken like a true looser.

If you have no facts on the subject why post garbage? When did Alberta get it's independence?

[no queenslave]

Your ammo consists of nerf balls , not to mention missing the mark by a mile. No negotiations? Well there were, w Ott and London . Read this..............

The negotiating team that went to Ottawa was composed of National Convention members Bradley, Smallwood, Albert Walsh, Chesley Crosbie, Gordon Winter, John McEvoy, and Philip Gruchy. They met with representatives from the Department of External Affairs, including Louis St. Laurent and Lester Pearson, as well as Prime Minister Mackenzie King. The teams worked for a period of approximately two months in 1948, using the draft terms from 1947 as a starting point. Although for the most part the process went smoothly, there were a few stumbling blocks, such as the provision of transitional payments to offset Newfoundland's deficit. The Canadian government was also reluctant to make firm commitments without a legislature present in Newfoundland. Eventually a mutually satisfactory agreement was completed on December 11, 1948. The terms agreed to were approved by an act of the Canadian Parliament. Later, at the request of the governments of Canada and Newfoundland, the British government passed the British North America Act, 1949 (since renamed the Newfoundland Act) to confirm the agreement.

Leave the goalposts where they are thank you. You are third and long so prep the hail mary.

all propaganda.

Post a copy of hansard showing the vote in the house of commons which approved your goal post act of the Canadian Parliament Dec 11 1948..

[Peter F]

Hey Princess Moxie...(bows deeply)...now that you're royalty, would you mind taking queenie and doing the, uh, off-with-its-head-thing?

Just asking.

Moxie cannot be Queen of Alberta unless she types her name thus: MOXIE

[Hydraboss]

Spoken like a true looser.

If you have no facts on the subject why post garbage? When did Alberta get it's independence?

Please do us all a favor and learn to spell.

I am a loser. Not a looser.

That would be like saying, "My screws are looser than yours." or more properly "My screws are more loose than yours." If you're indicating that my (meaning me) screws are looser than yours, I would have to debate it. While they are, in fact, loose, they are not looser.

As for the content of my posts in reply to yours, I am giving your comments the respect that they deserve. I'm not sure if my statements are posted in Hansard, but I believe they should be.

Have you not yet figured out that the general consensus on this board is that your arguements are baseless, and that the only reason people are even answering you is because they are waiting for something interesting to be posted. Of course, if you had read the Westminster Statute, you would already know that.

[Hydraboss]

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Edited November 1, 2007 by Hydraboss

[guyser]

all propaganda.

Post a copy of hansard showing the vote in the house of commons which approved your goal post act of the Canadian Parliament Dec 11 1948..

If by propaganda you mean you dont want to believe it , well then knock yourself out buttercup.

You could go here... http://faculty.marianopolis.edu/c.belanger...ewfoundland.htm

and learn something I suppose. But I doubt that since you just like flinging mud.

Just to recap for you. You said no referendum was done in NFLD. Wrong, showed you where they had two.

No Union was negotiated between NFLD and Canada. Wrong, showed you that info too.

And yet , you still pontificate about the wranglings of joining this country as if you were an expert.And amazingly, you had no idea about two referendums let alone one and no idea about the Union terms. Why it that?

I know I know...its because I am a "looser" ..right?