Well it appears the marines are being vindicated.

[Moxie]

I came across this article on Haditha and the slaughter of Innocent Iraqies by the Mericans, well it appears it was a setup by the terrorist and the left wing media ran like Canadian Geese with it. Here's what really happened. If you are a democrat cry baby don't read further lest I offend your tender sensibilities okay? I can hear the peaceniks wailing in horror as I type this, sorta like their ex-mil hero that turned out to be an excon and a current con. Tissues anyone???

Full article: http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/...ha-NatHelms.htm

Snipit: October 6, 2007 – Buried in the mountain of exhibits attached to the once secret Haditha, Iraq murder inquiry prepared by US Army Maj. Gen. Eldon A. Bargewell is an obscure Marine Corps intelligence summary (see pdf) that says the deadly encounter was an intentional propaganda ploy planned and paid for by Al Qaeda foreign fighters.

Veteran military defense attorney Gary Meyers said he never understood why the Naval Criminal Investigative Service special agents leading the Haditha criminal investigation didn’t “examine the linkage” between Al Qaeda, the local insurgency and the events at Haditha. Meyers was an attorney on the defense team that successfully defended Justin Sharratt, a Marine infantryman accused of multiple murders at Haditha.

The report – apparently overlooked by a Washington press corps awash in leaked Bargewell documents and secret Naval Criminal Investigative Service reports – shows that Marine Corps intelligence operatives were advised of the scheme to demonize the Marines by an informant named Muhannad Hassan Hamadi. The informant was snared by 3/1 Marines on December 11 2005 and decided to cooperate.

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[Guest American Woman]

"If you are a democrat cry baby don't read further lest I offend your tender sensibilities okay?"

I didn't read any further because you offended my intellect with that moronic statement. Seriously. Is this the level of "intelligent, honest and responsible discussion" this board has been reduced to?

[ScottSA]

"If you are a democrat cry baby don't read further lest I offend your tender sensibilities okay?"

I didn't read any further because you offended my intellect with that moronic statement. Seriously. Is this the level of "intelligent, honest and responsible discussion" this board has been reduced to?

Forgive me for saying so, but most of your posts over the last few days are concerned with posts you don't like. If all we ever did was follow suit and attack the posting style in the post above, it would get pretty boring pretty fast. Why not address the issue...a headfake similar to the one in the "Islam the sneaky buggers" thread which happens to have made asses of the left...oh, wait, I see why you don't want to address it.

[Peter F]

Here's what really happened.

The report – ...– shows that Marine Corps intelligence operatives were advised of the scheme to demonize the Marines by an informant named Muhannad Hassan Hamadi. The informant was snared by 3/1 Marines on December 11 2005 and decided to cooperate.

If that's true then the Marines fell for it hook line and sinker. The killings still took place and it wasn't al Queda killing the civilians as even the charged/no longer charged Marines have testified.

This is all entirely self-inflicted stupidity in light of the claim that Marine Intelligence Knew it was a set-up.

[kuzadd]

"If you are a democrat cry baby don't read further lest I offend your tender sensibilities okay?"

I didn't read any further because you offended my intellect with that moronic statement. Seriously. Is this the level of "intelligent, honest and responsible discussion" this board has been reduced to?

I'm still working on the "left-wing nut" comment.

Is this the level of "intelligent, honest and responsible discussion" this board has been reduced to?

It appears that way.

[ScottSA]

If that's true then the Marines fell for it hook line and sinker. The killings still took place and it wasn't al Queda killing the civilians as even the charged/no longer charged Marines have testified.

This is all entirely self-inflicted stupidity in light of the claim that Marine Intelligence Knew it was a set-up.

Typical; the US is damned if they do and damned if they don't. Since they're gonna get blamed either way, they should just gas the country and walk away with the oil. Oh, and before anyone tries to report this as a "call for genocide," give your head a shake.

[Peter F]

Typical; the US is damned if they do and damned if they don't. Since they're gonna get blamed either way, they should just gas the country and walk away with the oil. Oh, and before anyone tries to report this as a "call for genocide," give your head a shake.

Helluva position to volountarily get into isn't it?.

But Hey! Its a good thing!

[Peter F]

"the Haditha Marines are Vindicated!"

Funny kind of vindication. Even the lawyers defending the charged marines do not dispute that thier clients killed non-combatants. The Defense rests on the claim that the Marines were following thier training. Everyone in a designated target building is considered a combatant. The are to kill them all, not wound them or capture them - but kill everyone in the targeted building (thus the dead check).

In effect the defense rests upon the claim that thier client was just following orders.

...and it's not torture unless organ failure occurs...

This is what the United States has been reduced to. I hope and pray the CAF never stoops to this level of madness.

Edited October 10, 2007 by Peter F