jackson

I'm not talking about tax system in general. I was responding to someone about the Native status card tax exemption. IMO that is a different topic than general taxation practices. Seriously though, what about your whole duress comment, I still don't get it

What are you even talking about? Treaties made under duress from who. I think you were trying to be funny, maybe? Didn't work, or maybe you were serious, who are you suggesting were under duress, the Native people or the Crown?

I think each province may vary in what they do with tax system. I think in Manitoba taxes are payed up front then need to be sent in for a return. In Ontario it seems to be the easiest and best system. Status card carriers are exempt from Provincial tax and are just not charged at point of sale. Easy and no refunds, etc.

I disagree Lily. I'm not sure where you are but in Ontario when you present a status card your PST is removed, not payed for. As far as delivery, yes, items do have to be delivered on the territory to receive the PST exemption. In stores though, at least in Southern Ontario, i don't know about everywhere, you are PST exempt at the point of sale if you present a status card. Beyond that I do absolutely believe that Native people, on territory or off, should be PST exempt.

I'm not sure about currently being GST exempt by paying for it up front. I don't believe that they are, just PST exempt at point of sale. In Ontario anyway. I could be wrong but that's what I think. The Federal government did suggest that maybe a initial payout of the HST with a return could be the policy they enter into. I don't see a way around it, the Native population would have to be exempt as they are currently exempt from provincial taxes, and how would the government separate PST from GST when it's combined. I'm not for or against Native people being HST exempt, just wondering others thoughts on it.

What about the question of what happens to the whole status card thing. I know in Ontario, Native people that are registered with status cards are PST exempt. So if they combine PST and GST how will they sort that mess out. The provincial government said that they, along with Elected Council Chiefs are pushing for status cards to give the carrier exempt status for the entire HST tax. Clearly since the province of Ontario doesn't receive tax revenue from Native people they don't care if the federal government does. It seems to look like a 'native friendly' thing, but really just think it's good spokesman ship. They don't care since they know there's no chance of them receiving tax. With aboriginal people the fastest growing population in Canada, wouldn't creating a new tax that may exempt that entire population of tax payers eventually create a problem? Just curious

Weird, no one is talking about what really happened at the Smoke Shop. A year ago Ernie had invited Mr. Powless to set up the shop. He had visited Powless many times at another shop to say that he should come to his land and set up. Ernie wanted to be bought out by the province or feds. He figured pushing the issue like this at the negotiating table would bring Plank Road/Highway 6 claim into the limelight and at the same time force the government to buy him out like the former DCE lands. Powless and Ernie were good friends for a couple years before all this started. Powless was there by invitation. Ernie has since withdrawn that invitation after the lawsuit and weird push/pull friend/fo relationship he has had with the OPP and Art/Melt team. Powless isn't there terrorizing Ernie, this was a mutual agreement. Their relationship is currently strained due to an apparent change of plans on Ernie's fault. Ernie does not like Fleming or his militia turned peace keepers, he has seen how they interfere with matters. He has watched for 3 years as the 'circus of media tigers' (as Ernie called them) try to attention to run their racist agenda. Ernie constantly pointed that out and even asked the OPP why they weren't doing something about Fleming and his friends.