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Consensus building like the Chinese Communists do in Tibet?
Or back home?
http://www.chinaabout.net/the-cctv-said-the-dalai-lama-gang-issued-self-immolation-instrucations/
The CCTV said the Dalai Lama gang issued “self-immolation instrucations”
In March 2013, 26-year-old villager Ban Majia attempted to implement self-immolation in the Ganzi Tibetan Autonomous area, but promptly seized by the local police. The police also found his prior written suicide note from him and dozens of leaflets, according to Ban, the suicide note was written according to the guide book found on the Internet providing self-immolation instructions.
This subside attempt first exposed the “self-immolation instructions” which in fact is a textbook teaching how Tibetans set themselves on fire, the first part of the book is self-immolation ideological mobilization; the second part is about the preparation of self-immolation; the third part is the self-immolation words to be shouted during the implementation of the self-immolation; the fourth part is the relevant actions that should be taken.
Dalai Lama is supported by US and other western countries, so the self immolation is made by western democracy rather then China " dictatorship "
Or back home?
Do you promise the Trudeau Liberals will bring us all together...one way or the other?
The tank man did not die, but Dudley George died.
And need not Trudeau bring something, it is already there, it happen in a so call "democracy"
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2012/06/29/the_g20_summit_where_are_we_now.html
On June 26, 2010, the police finally move in on protesters who refused to move. Thousands came out to protest the G20 summit, marshalling at Queen's Park and then marching through downtown Toronto streets. Originally peaceful, the protest eventually turned ugly.
Two years after the G20 summit — which gave Canada both its biggest security operation and largest mass arrest in peacetime history — what have we learned from that ignominious weekend?
Whatever lessons have emerged will not come from a public inquiry, despite continued calls for one. The Canadian Civil Liberties Association has consistently maintained that only a public inquiry can make sense of the G20 summit and its complex security operation, which involved officers from the RCMP, OPP and multiple local police services.
As I have said many times, dictatorships or democracy are not the key points, thug's democracy can not help anything.
The most important is thinking of others, thinking of the people, making most people to have responsibility.
That can only be obtained by real good education, which Canada lack of.
And China is in process of lost it in the blindly leaning western countries.
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As I have said many times, dictatorships or democracy are not the key points, thug's democracy can not help anything.
The most important is thinking of others, think of the people, can most people have responsibility.
That can only be obtained by real good education, which Canada lack of.
And China is in process of lost it in the blindly leaning western countries.
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Or maybe it was the liberal immigration plan of raping these countries of their best and brightist and bringing them here.
It is because of many people like my kind, who do real hard work that create real value, instead of just talking and prepare documents with some kind of educated prefered "language", that keep this society running, and feed greedys, and avoid the country from bankrupt.
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I would encourage more immigration from the top five areas and discourage immigration from the bottom five.
2 hundred years ago, in south part of the US, a colonist can have hundreds of slaves, the slaves can not earn more, but the colonists takes what slaves created. Alter the war, those old rich becomes poor after slaves gone. You can get some idea from the novel "Gone with Wind"
Now some people takes high salary, others work more, create more value, but earn less. You can refuse those low salary real workers, then, those amount of work has to be done by those who good at "Communications". however, really not good at maths and science as those who have poor language skills. what will happen then, more technical jobs go outsoucing because no people can do it, due to the poor western education system and CAS..
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http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/politics/archives/2013/10/20131008-153221.html
Kenney is trying to get a deal for a new training grant to be rolled out over four years.
It would see employers cover one-third of the cost of training a new hire from the pool of 1.3 million unemployed Canadians, while taxpayers pick up the rest of the cost through provincial and federal governments.
In my opinion, lots of immigrants and others have enough skill to do work, many are even better than those who have work. But they still can not find a job. It is due to bias.
Currently, many organization ask for volentieer work for them without pay, it is unfair, they said they offer "Canadian experience", Many new immigrants work as volenteer when their life are really hard. They can work as volenteer prooved they are good enough to work as others who have the absurd "Canadian experience".
Training can not reduce bias.
Training is often waste money, the only winner is the training companies and teachers.
Asking employers to pay for teachers will only increase the cost of companies.
I think if the govenment can use half of the training money to pay 1/3 of the salary in half a year for those who have no job for a year. That would greatly stimulte many companies hire unemployed. So that more and more people can be converted into "experienced" (in record). That would be more effective than any training program.
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No, that sounds about right for the multi-cult.
Asian countries for Asians.
African countries for Africans.
White countries for everybody!
Who are the people go everywhere arround the world kill peoples and take land and name it as colony?
Who are the people that for money takes many people from Afraca send them to america and ask them work as slaves?
What are the people that take prople from China and ask them to build railway in north america?
Those are the people want others work for them and take others created bring all others here.
All immigrants are require a no criminal record report, if some of them crime here after immigration, it is this country convert them from a good citizen to a criminal. They country doing this by laws that prevent the immigrants doing what they good at, such as become a doctor and many others that need a license. So the professional immigrants has to be a labour and many even can not found a job. Hard life make people easy to do bad things. Same as those people that born here and grow up here and have no job to do and become poor.
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That is because the western "democracies" take what more other countries created than they pay. Just like the bankers take away more of what other people created. The western countries takes most poor countries created and give only some small amount to keep those poor country not hunger to death. You can see this easily, in poor countries, people work same time, they get far less payed than western countries. Like what Apple did. That is the reason for outsourcing. That means when the economy can not sustain, western country take money from poor countries. So the reason why western country people live better life, is not because the system is better, it is because they takes from other countries.
That explains why most countries in this planet are democrac capitalism, but most of them are not rich, among them are the poorest ones.
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Again, your grammar makes it a little hard to figure out what your saying.
Sorry, although I have to work to make living, I still like to spend more time on improve my English, it is not easy for me, because I am no longer young.
But the standard of living in western democracies with capitalist systems (with taxation to support social programs) is typically far better than those in countries with command economies. And that also extends to the "poor". (An individual that would be consider 'poor' in the U.S., Canada, or western Europe would be considered rather affluent when compared to an individual living in a communist country).That is because the western "democracies" take what more other countries created than they pay. Just like the bankers take away more of what other people created. The western countries takes most poor countries created and give only some small amount to keep those poor country not hunger to death. You can see this easily, in poor countries, people work same time, they get far less payed than western countries. Like what Apple did. That is the reason for outsourcing. That means when the economy can not sustain, western country take money from poor countries. So the reason why western country people live better life, is not because the system is better, it is because they takes from other countries.
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It's not the bankers fault, nobody put a gun to the government's head and forced them to borrow. Banks offer a service and if you don't want to serve their interests, you don't have to use it. But if you do, you have only yourself to blame if it goes bad.
Who knows what is the bank's role in making this happen. Lending from private bank is far from the only option, there are other solutions. For example:
Government should not do that, They should borrow money from Bank Of Canada if need. No matter Bank Of Canada charge interest or not, it is belongs to all the people in Canada.This is the secreat of the how the top bank bosses take values created by all working people, no matter labours, or bussness men, or lawyers, or doctors, or any others. Mortgate is another way to do this.
The law should be change to make only the company owned by the government can provide morgage. So that the interest can be all becomes tax dollars for all the Canadians. It is unfair that the laws allows only serveral selected private company to lend you money with 0 reserve requirement to make money for its private bosses.
But you are right, taxation is not equally beneficial. It takes a far larger portion of earnings from the high-earners than the low earners because it is progressive. It is also confers vastly more benefit to the poor, as they bear the largest benefit and the smallest costs.
Even when high end pay more tax as current, it is still not fair, when high end take almost everything from the low end, no matter how much high end pay tax, it is still not as much as low end, because the low end has nothing left, 100% depend on his monthly income, at the same time, high end can have no income without low end work.
The exploitation from Marxist theory compare to what top bankers nowadays is actually too small, the top bankers now can make money from all people in all business without any employment relationship, which is far more smart and far more profitable than Marx can imagine.
The bank bosses can do this totally rely on the laws, the lawmakers can only harnessing poor people, they are not able to do anything harnessing the real monsters.
If any law maker dicide to let top bank boss take less money, I think he will not be able to work as a lawmaker anymore.
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A good economic/political system harnesses humanity's selfish nature and uses it to better society as a whole. Capitalism with some level of taxation that pays for things that are mutually useful is an example of that system. People work for their own benefit, keep the majority of the reward, and some portion of the productivity is used for the "common good". And that is all perfectly reasonable and valid.
However, large portion of taxation is not pay for mutually useful.
Example 1: the 9% each year of tax is pay for the interest of loan from private banks, it is pay for selfishness of the bank bosses.
Example 2: at least 2/3 of the billions pay for CAS, is not for the children no matter those children need or need not "help".
The axioms:- Selfishness (for oneself, relatives/loved ones, closest community) is an inherent part of human nature
- Harnessing human nature is better than trying to change it
From those two axioms the failure of communism is immediately apparent.
Are you tring to say "Harnessing selfishness is better than trying to change it"?
But who will be able to "Harnessing selfishness", the law makers? what if they themselves have this "human nature"?
Are you able to ask a Monster to "harness" himself?
Or are you able to ask a selfish weak small animal under the threat and lure by the Monster "harness" the Monster?
In this case, you think your "axioms" did not failure the current system?
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Communism spreads out the oppression over everyone, fascism targets specific groups.
If Communism is like that, how can communism win in many countries during the 20th century? It has some reason in it.
The answer is that there are so many problems not solved, communism provided one of the solutions.
If you read novels of 19 century written by Charles John Huffam Dickens, Victor-Marie Hugo, and others, you can easily find how cruel the society was. Acturally, many social problems have not been solved even now. Communism is at least an approach for solving those problems.
There is no need to call it "totalitarian communism", because by its very nature, communism is totalitarian, because a tyrannical regime is the only way to force people to act against their own nature (anyone who doesn't understand this doesn't know what communism actually is). As for whether or not government should be spending money on it... maybe not, but who cares, we have wasteful expenditures thousands of times larger that we should worry about first.
What is people's nature? Prople want to living better life. If they have less money, they want to buy cheap things. they want to get better paid jobs. They want to build their life by their own hands.
"force people to act against their own nature", Does the current goverment do such things?
Canadian cellphone rates among world's worst
http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story/2009/08/11/canada-cellphone-rates-expensive-oecd.html
Using a comparison package of 780 calls made, 600 text messages and eight multimedia messages sent per year, the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development found that Canada has the third-highest wireless rates among developed countries.
But the communication service is a business that need a permit. Only selected people can do it. So the price is high.
Is this against people's nature?
The dentist price is high, people need cheap solution, but experienced dentists, doctors are not allowed.
Illegal dentist exposed; 1,500 patients urged to get HIV tests
The occupant, Tung Sheng Wu, also known as David Wu, is believed to have been practicing dentistry without a licence in the province for more than a decade.
But in the decade, no one actually have HIV while accidents in licenced hospitals happened.
What is more:
Who said we should trust western medical system because it is "scientific"?
Let's see the data:
America's Healthcare System is the Third Leading Cause of Death
http://www.health-care-reform.net/causedeath.htm
Even more significantly, the medical system has played a large role in undermining the health of Americans. According to several research studies in the last decade, a total of 225,000 Americans per year have died as a result of their medical treatments:
• 12,000 deaths per year due to unnecessary surgery
• 7000 deaths per year due to medication errors in hospitals
• 20,000 deaths per year due to other errors in hospitals
• 80,000 deaths per year due to infections in hospitals
• 106,000 deaths per year due to negative effects of drugs
Thus, America's healthcare-system-induced deaths are the third leading cause of the death in the U.S., after heart disease and cancer.
Are there any significant difference between American doctors and medicine and Canadian ones.
Is this against people's nature?
When reccoons invade house, people want to let them never come, but was arrected.
Man arrested for allegedly attempting to kill raccoons with a shovel
Is this against people's nature?
When people need more living space, they are not allowed to build for their own without a permit.
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2013/09/06/omb_approves_illegally_built_home_addition.htmlAfter a seven-year court odyssey and series of hit-and-miss legal arguments, a Toronto family has won the right to keep an illegal addition on their home.
This is the rare case in which a family has taken on several levels of bureaucracy and, faced with years of struggle, simply outlasted it. The family lost at several divisional courts, a committee-of-adjustment panel and an earlier OMB hearing, but continued to appeal.
Is this against people's nature?
There are too many examples.
People has the nature try to spend less and make a better life expecially for hard working people, who are the most people in this country, but this is often not allowed,
Only very small amount of people is allowed with the help of laws to make huge amount of money as they like.
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The main blood sucker is the private banks, The government borrow money from private banks and use %9 of the our tax dollars to pay the interest each year.
Government should not do that, They should borrow money from Bank Of Canada if need. No matter Bank Of Canada charge interest or not, it is belongs to all the people in Canada.
And the morgage companies are the blood suckers too, they take money as interest from amost every family of this country, a large part of the values that work class created has been taken away in this way, that makes the cost of all the business higher.
The law should be change to make only the company owned by the government can provide morgage. So that the interest can be all becomes tax dollars for all the Canadians. It is unfair that the laws allows only serveral selected private company to lend you money with 0 reserve requirement to make money for its private bosses.
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This is not a issue for Canada Post alone. RIM has problem, previously, Notel bankrupt, and Zellers, Now Sears has problem, ATI become part of AMD.
When all Canadian business has problem, it shows that the system has problem. It is not sustainable.
The reason is there are too many blood suckers, who do little work and take huge amount of money that other business work hard to create. When the real value creater has to give blood to those suckers, they lost compete ability compare to the counterpart of other countries.
The main blood sucker is the private banks, The government borrow money from private banks and use %9 of the our tax dollars to pay the interest each year.
Government should not do that, They should borrow money from Bank Of Canada if need. No matter Bank Of Canada charge interest or not, it is belongs to all the people in Canada.
And the morgage companies are the blood suckers too, they take money as interest from amost every family of this country, a large part of the values that work class created has been taken away in this way, that makes the cost of all the business higher.
There are many other blood suckers that takes huge amount of tax money and create problems more than they solved, such as Children's Aid Society, etc.
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By the way I think its ironic someone usedthe Chinese as an example of whose police we should look to.
Don't get me wrong. I appreciate the point made using them was to show alternative forms of subduing people with picture examples and I think that was a valuable way to make the point of considering alernative methods. It makes that part of the discussion more easy to understand.
Just me, I would not want to live in China. In that country the police and state organ are not divorced from one another and police are used as political agents of state oppression in a manner far different than in Canada.
Thanks but I pass on their police although I do appreciate the point made as I said.
Ironically, Chinese cops did not shoot the man with 2 knives, but Canadian cops shoot Yatim.
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Federal government will fund Hill monument to victims of communism
OTTAWA — An anti-communist group will get up to $1.5 million in federal funds to build a monument on Parliament Hill.
Tribute to Liberty, a registered charity, has already received approval to build a memorial to people killed by communist regimes.I feel sad that my tax dollars will be wasted in this way.
If $1.5 million has to be spent, I prefer build a memorial to hundreds of millions of people killed by colonists.
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When justice is against the law, Snowdens appear. How sad the so called "democracy" behaves.
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Democracy is a system that encourage people to tell lies. This can easily be seen from the story Running for Governor by Mark Twin's to Dalton McGuinty said he would reduce tax if he become the premier of Ontario, but he did not.
When western courtiers promote democracy to China, more and more Chinese grasped this advanced technologies to tell lies.
Western country enjoy negative stories about China, no matter if the stories are lies or not. So many such lies comes include this one: http://www.amazon.ca/Bend-Not-Break-Life-Worlds/dp/1591845521 (Bend Not Break), When more and more Chinese come to western countries, more and more such lies be identifies although most are ignored by mainstream media.Many Chinese thought western countries are heaven after hear the propaganda from western countries years after years, so there are people try to tell various lies to get a refugee's status. Give some story that western countries enjoy, there are chances for them to stay in their dream country. This is the need of political correctness.
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It seems that when we have a combination of science, business and the public involved - our current political system doesn't do a good job of representing the public interest - or, at least, there are a lot of complaints. The 20th century - at least the early part - saw the beginning of a relationship between those entities that was fruitful. I think a new balance needs to be struck here.
Why do people do that? And by 'that', I mean post a video on a forum, with the assumption that if we just watch some movie our eyes would be magically opened? Using videos to support any arguments you might have is a very poor way to debate. (I've seen it time and time again, with 'anti-vaxers', with '9/11 troothers', moon hoax believers, and with anti-Israeli activists.)
First of all, the viewer's opinions can easily be manipulated by selective editing... the right scene cut, the appropriate music, failure to give context, etc. can give a distorted understanding of the issues at hand.
Secondly, a movie/documentary is at heart an opinion piece... its format makes fact checking difficult. (You can be hit with a dozen 'facts' a minute, but without easy access to references its difficult to know if the information being presented is accurate, faulty, or taken out of context.) This is especially relevant if the video maker is either a relative unknown, or holds some sort of bias.
I'm not saying that the agricultural industry is perfect. Far from it. But if there are specific issues to be discussed, by all means do so. But do so in your own words. And by providing independent references from mainstream sources. (And on the rare case that a video provides some key information not readily available elsewhere, at least tell us at what point we should actually watch.)
The problem you mentioned exists in main stream media itself.
Here are examples from google (I know google itself is manipulated and holds bias, but the sad thing is we have almost no alternative)
Study Finds Mainstream Media’s Climate Coverage is Overwhelmingly Misleading
http://ecowatch.com/2012/media-climate-coverage-misleading/
Misleading Media Reports that Unemployment Rate is Decreasing in America
Why Mass Media Are Bad: Weaknesses And Limitations Of Commercial Mainstream Media
Link: http://www.masternewmedia.org/news/2006/03/13/why_mass_media_are_bad.htm#ixzz2W3HPAIm5
Another Ridiculous, Misleading Mainstream Media Headline
http://www.activistpost.com/2013/05/another-ridiculous-misleading.html
There are too many other examples, like:
Mainstream media said Iraq has WMD, but no one found it at last after many lifes of iraq people and american people and canadians lost.
As we all can see recently, main stream media enjoy focus on Rob Ford's private issues instead of public interest.
Main stream media did not focus on US govenment spying its own people (actually Canadian gov did the same) until Edward Snowden flee to Hong Kong.
Can we trust mainstream media, I guess main stream media is good at entertainment. If we need find some useful information, we need to hear voice from different people.
That is why Andre Vltchek said freedom of press is not at home:
The era of brave reporters and determined editors seems to be over. Correspondents who covered the Vietnam War, who actually helped to stop the Vietnam War, are getting older. They write memoirs and publish books, but they hardly witness today's conflicts. There are still some fearless and dedicated journalists - Keith Harmon Snow or John Pilger to mention just two - but they are more exceptions that prove the rule than a common occurrence.
And yet brave alternative voices are needed more now than in any other time in recent history. As corporate control over the media becomes nearly complete, almost all large outlets now serve establishment economic and political interests. The more they do, the more they talk about the need for freedom of the press, objectivity, and unbiased reporting; somewhere else, not at home.
p.s. the other proof of there is no freedom of press in Canada is, the video "Food Inc." I linked on #308 does not exist now. Can we said there are some people in this forum asked the video web site to delete it? I guess so.
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It seems that when we have a combination of science, business and the public involved - our current political system doesn't do a good job of representing the public interest - or, at least, there are a lot of complaints. The 20th century - at least the early part - saw the beginning of a relationship between those entities that was fruitful. I think a new balance needs to be struck here.
Here is a documenary about food we comsume every day.
I think if you care about your own health, maybe it is a good idea to spend some time to watch it: http://vimeo.com/62489768
Food, Inc.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Food, Inc. is a 2008 American documentary film directed by Emmy Award-winning filmmaker Robert Kenner.[3] The film examines corporate farming in the United States, concluding that agribusiness produces food that is unhealthy, in a way that is environmentally harmful and abusive of both animals and employees. The film is narrated by Michael Pollan and Eric Schlosser.[4][5]
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Yes! World much better in Red China! In Red China, don't need worry about GMO's, only tainted milk!
Why you go to china again. You don't have memory what happened to the last each time some one try to blame china when talk about Canadian issues? Is that part of the Canadian blame culture?
Can your so called “fascist Canada” prevent these things from happen by inspectors? Then why Maple Leaf Meat issue still happen and causes even more death than melamine milk in china?
BEIJING — Chinese courts sentenced two men to death and three other defendants, including a top dairy company executive, to life in prison on Thursday for endangering public safety in a tainted milk scandal that killed at least six children, according to state-run news media.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/22/world/as...3.19601372.html
On Monday, the Canadian health authorities revised from 4 to 12 the number of deaths from listeriosis that have been linked to contaminated cold meat cuts and the number of officially confirmed cases is now 26 and is expected to rise again, a health official told the press.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/119305.php
What happened after that? Anyone in the company take the charge?
So, because Maple Leaf Meat cause the problem, now the freedom of other companies that have never cause problem should be taken away, to make sure the large companies who dominate the markets still have chance to cause problems again. Your baby foolish people don’t know what will harm to yourselves, need police state laws to assault you further, so that inspectors can search you private properties any time they want with no reason, need take more tax money to build jails and hire cops, need out-law most natural products from the market so that large companies can make even more money.
Is that the logic you want to tell me?
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Demonstrators rally against Monsanto in global anti-GMO protest
CTV Toronto: Protesters target GMO seed firm
Crowds showed up at Yonge and Dundas Square as part of a worldwide protest against genetically-modified produce.
CTV BC: 'March Against Monsanto' hits Vancouver
Hundreds of people swarmed Vancouver's streets Saturday, taking aim at genetically modified foods – and one of their largest manufacturers.
CTV Regina: Walk against Monsanto
Marches were held against Monsanto and other major GMOs across the country Saturday, including Regina.
Western style democracy is of little use.
Why I said that?
Because media are controlled by powerful people, most people in government and parliament are doing things according to the value that media repeated, few people know what is the most important issues that could harm to them. What is more, media would rather to focus on whether Ford use drug than whether GMO may harm to public health or not. I don't like casino that Ford supported, but I don't like media further more.
The gene modified food issues that I mentioned 3 years ago, now, at last, now, some people begin to notice it, but still, how long it will take for the first effective change on it?
Farmers feed transfer-gene, chemical fertilized crop to feed chickens and cattle, did not see many First Nation guy afford to do that large scale modern farming.
Maybe till all of us die, most issues will still remain unchanged, after many Fords come and go.
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Keep in mind that the argument that casinos "cause" crime is not exactly a black and white issue.
Yes, many police organizations (and some statistical studies) claim that the crime rate goes up when there are casinos around. However, casinos also attract a lot of tourists (who are not counted as "residents" of the city.) This can cause the crime rate to artificially go up.
http://econjwatch.org/articles/do-casinos-really-cause-crime
The author want "to isolate the crime effect caused by casinos". But to ordinary people and tourists, who cares if the crime is causes directly by casino or not, they care about if the trip or their community is safe, whether it will increase their cost, and life risk. The statistics did show the crime rate is higher in cities that have casinos.
While it is true that casinos can sometimes just "redistribute" wealth, you seem to be ignoring the importance of tourism. Yes, its not going to help much if a local resident goes to gamble (as you pointed out, its just redistributing money that would probably have been spent in the community anyways.) The value is when individuals from outside the community come to gamble. They would be bringing in revenue that would otherwise have been spent in other cities.
At the very least, having a local gambling establishment might prevent a few Toronto residents from traveling to (for example) Vegas, thus keeping their money in the community instead of having it spent thousands of miles away.
I will still go to Niagara not because casino, but because the falls, and dolphins for kids.
Just a google search find 6202 casinos and others include 159 in Canada, at http://www.casinocity.com/casinos/
How many of them have attracted many tourists? How many of them become Las Vegas? Actually LAs Vegas has its own problem:
Fitch changes Las Vegas debt rating outlook to ‘negative,’ but city officials say don’t panic
By Steve Green, Dave Toplikar (contact) Dave Toplikar
Monday, April 9, 2012 | 7:19 p.m.
Moody’s analysts: ‘The Las Vegas recovery is under way’ (03-19-2012)
One of the three big Wall Street debt-rating agencies is warning about continued budget shortfalls at the city of Las Vegas tied to economic problems and high costs for police services.
Bad economy affected Las Vegas has clearly proved that money is not bring by casino, money is only spent in casino.
Rob Ford, mayor of Toronto UPDATES
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The more coorprate media attack Ford, the more people need to think why they attack.
Ford aim on reduce gov cost, that save tax for the people, obviously lots of tax suckers hate him.
Ford make new subway plan become possible, that will reduce the traffic problem, that no other did it for decades.
As for the smoke, why, only Ford be blamed if it is a crime?