Easterner
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I hope the GG forces the losing parties to go to the people for confidence. Ofcourse they don't want to do that because they are afraid of the voters
Yes I agree!
They need to go back to the people........period
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Tories seem proud of the fact that Harper acted like a first horse's ass.
I will give you that during this last episode but do you not really think Dion is really a full time bumbling idiot.
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I think that Canadians will support the defeat of Stephen Harper by about 60%.
So you think the GG will order another election then. But you said last night that Dion would not be the leader either.
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He was installed only in his riding.
It is the confidence of the MPs that matters in our system.
Well, certainly the 37% who voted Tory might not.
hey Jdobbin,
What do you think of Dion signing on with Duceppe and do you think most Liberals are going to see that as a good thing signing on with a party that wants to separate Canada
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Just watching the news. Dion Duceppe and Layton just signed the agreement. Dion and Duceppe sat close together. The seperatist/socialist and idiot show is about to begin. With Dion at the helm I can't wait to be the brunt of the international comedy circuit. A bloodless coup is about to take place.....well so far anyway.
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And by participating here you'll meet and deal with a few more.
But, congrats on weathering your first kooky poster on MLW!Talk again I am sure................ Take care and thanks
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HAhahah
YOU:
"Raaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh I HATE DIFFERENT!!!! I want everything to be the same all the time, I need Normal"
Too bad that is not the way the laws of Canada are written deal with it.
...........glad I was not there for you. But I met and dealt with many like you!
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Or rather the 10% of the vote they got, IC. I would say they have just as much legitimacy as any other party, even if I don't like one of their goals.
Their only goal as stated is to break away from Canada and to look after only Quebec until that is done. Do they run outside of Quebec? In my view to have a say in this issue you have to have Canada's best interest at heart and I don't believe you can honestly say they care.
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Strange, then, that so many countries around the world function by very similar mechanisms.
I have been in a few of those countries.....I would rather live in Canada thank you and live by the "normal" way of Electing Governments.
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I fought for this country and have certain beleifs and one of them is the hope that our Government and our Constitution would never be abused like this.
Thank you very much for your contribution in the military, and I do agree that our electoral system is first past the post, not pick up the scraps. This is a shabby way to do the business of government.
Thank you.....and it is
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No, no they didn't. 37/100 is not a majority....period. You need to work on your math skills.
Take your 10 percent out 37/90 then....getting better
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They voted for their own MP.
Our system is set up so that the PM can be decided without an election. If Harper was to die on office and the the Tories would appoint one of their own to be be acting PM and have a leadership convention. They are not compelled to go to an election.
It is democratic because people choose MPs not PMs.
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This assumes that Dion will be asked to be PM. Regardless, a lot of people also "voted" against Harper; hence, the composition of the parliament is the way it presently is.
Exactly my point. If we look at it purely from that point....people had the opportunity to vote for or against a person they wanted to represent the country as PM. That may be taken away from them and have a unknown PM appointed for them without the vetting process. Is that democratic?
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I'd rather not be led by someone who doesn't know where they're going, thanks. Rather, it's you who should be walked through a quick refresher of the present situation and a lesson in Canadian civics: the House of Commons is made up of Members of Parliament who were each recently elected to represent a riding. The person who has the support of the most Members of Parliament is generally asked by the Governor General to form a government. If any person other than Stephen Harper can hold that confidence, they become PM, supported by the majority of the elected representatives in parliament, regardless of what party they belong to. That's called representative democracy, not random wheel-spinning, as you put it.
The majority of people in Canada voted for the Conserative Party to run the Government....period. Not for the three stooges to sit in a back room and plan the overthrow of the peoples wishes. Now you can say it is allowed for in the Constitution however most people in this country believe that the winner is the ONE Party with the most votes.
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OK. I will walk you through this. Who will be the PM? How many votes did their party get? Historically is that their party best or worse showing? Is the PM in Canada not the head of the Government? The PM is still the leader of the country unless you think that when the PM gets an invite to the White House he brings along Duceppe and Layton.
When people vote in this country they do not vote for 3 parties to govern and then spin the wheel for who is the PM....
You don't quite have that right, we do not vote for a PM, we vote for our local representative, the PM is the leader of the party with the most representatives, unlike the US for example where the house representatives are elected separately and the President could technically from a different party. If the US had many parties, it could get far messier than Canadian politics.
If a coalition is formed in Canadian parliment they effectively become one party, choosing their own leader, doesn't make it any prettier though.
Yes you are quite right however I as well as alot of people voted against Dion as they had Zero confidence in his abilities. In doing this they voted for the person running in any party with the exception of the Liberal Party to ensure Dion was not the PM. This is all I was saying and here now he may just become the PM. I use to vote Liberal until he became the leader and doubt I will ever again with what is going on.
I fought for this country and have certain beleifs and one of them is the hope that our Government and our Constitution would never be abused like this.
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What?? the lowest vote in Canadian history??
For the record here are the facts on the popular vote for the last election:
Conservative 37.65%
Liberal 26.26%
Bloc Québécois 9.98%
New Democrats 18.18%
Green 6.78%
So the coalition would actually represent 44.44% of the votes cast.
If the Liberals and New Democrats adopt the same platform I would agree but they are so far apart hence separate party. This is just plain the seizing of power. The GG should reject and send it back to an election and let the democratic process work. I am sure the liberal Party would not exist afterwards.
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OK. I will walk you through this. Who will be the PM? How many votes did their party get? Historically is that their party best or worse showing? Is the PM in Canada not the head of the Government? The PM is still the leader of the country unless you think that when the PM gets an invite to the White House he brings along Duceppe and Layton.
When people vote in this country they do not vote for 3 parties to govern and then spin the wheel for who is the PM....
...........oh I forgot to mention the Green Party leader to make cookies
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Er, the Liberal, New Democratic, and Bloc Quebecois parties actually won more votes than the Conservative Party alone. The NDP and Liberal MPs were elected in exactly the same manner as the Conservative MPs were, thereby representing Canadians no less legitimately. Perhaps you are just confused about how governments are formed in this country.
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OK. I will walk you through this. Who will be the PM? How many votes did their party get? Historically is that their party best or worse showing? Is the PM in Canada not the head of the Government? The PM is still the leader of the country unless you think that when the PM gets an invite to the White House he brings along Duceppe and Layton.
When people vote in this country they do not vote for 3 parties to govern and then spin the wheel for who is the PM....
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Ok, I'll put you in charge of that...the last few times we tried to do that it turned out so well.
Well if you took the separatist issues out of the equation then they may get somewhere. At least it would be a start
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I suggest you read the constitution. I also suggest that you realize that its up to government to keep the confidence of the house, not the other way around.
The Constitution needs to be updated when it allows a party with the lowest vote in Canadian history to seize the power of Government.....or the people. Bad things could happen to a country when the peoples vote is overturned and control is seized by an unpopular party with the help of a party the wants Canada separated anyway. We do not have to look far in this world to find issues with people and unpopular Governing parties
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We have a Separatist a Socialist and a bumbling Idiot threatening to take over the Canadian Government in what I see as a political coup. The Liberals have the lowest vote numbers in Canada and they feel they have the right to now seize power. I understand that they technically can legally do it however why have an Election if the results of what the people want is thrown out. As far as I am concerned this is just one step above one of our Generals seizing power in the name of democracy.
What the Governor General Has to Do!
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Very well said!!!!!!!!!!!