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jeancrow

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  1. cuote" With incest with due respect, it is impossible for it to be consensual because by its very definition it comes about from using familiarity from another relationship that was non sexual to now take the same trust earned when it was non sexual to provide a rationalization for engaging in sex" I believe that there are lots of cases of incest that come from relationships where there was no actual familiarity preceding the sexual relationship. U should take a good look at factual information about this. There is nothing wrong with research data. It's there so we don't have to make up our own. I believe that at the one end u are concerned about issues that u cannot really prove they actually exist. These cases of non consensual adult incest that u are talking about are impossible to judge. It is impossible to really understand why they happened if one was not in the mind of the ones that did it at the moment they did it. What u are dealing with is more like the trauma that was left over from the sexual encounter. The side effects of the prior action on these people. At the other end u are ignoring the issue of blood related people without prior familiar relationship that encounter each other later in life, fall in love and have sex with each other. I do not blame u for not looking at that because this seems to be one of the issues that are not looked at in the therapeutic community and. The issue seems to be terribly underreported and underrated. Maybe this is because nobody wants to see it. Maybe it being an issue of taboo. So it’s like dancing tango around a dead body pretending it is not there and arguing about the things u acknowledge being there. U are looking at the problem from a therapeutic world which apparently never deals with the other side of the story for the simple reason that these people that do have consensual incest, which did not have a prior familiar relationship with each other, do not have any or little left over negative effects about the decision they made consensually. They do not feel raped, they do not feel guilty, they don't even see the sexual relationship as incest. This is because these people experience the action as totally natural. These groups of people simply do not go to the psychologist or the therapist. If they do go to the therapist it might be because of confusion of how to deal with their environment while dealing with the profound affection they feeling for each other. Or maybe they want an insight from the outside world about the way they feel in the inside of their minds and souls. Those are the facts and I think u should look at them closely if u really want to see the others side of the incest medal. Actually it has more sides than a medal only. However I can understand how coming from the same facts why u can find it a weird situation when two people that have had familiar relationship all their lives suddenly desire each other sexually. According to the information that I have this almost never happens. And If it happens it does not happen naturally I think. I can see how these people themselves would have lots of issues and guilt about it.
  2. So based on this information i can conclude that there are at least 2 different definitions for the subject of incest. Wich means that not all pp on this forum are basing arguments about the same definition. Some are arguing against pedofilea and some argue against or for consentual intercourse between bloodrelated adults of around tha same age. Well I'm against pedofilea but I cannot see anything wrong about consentual sex between adults bloodrelated or not of around the same age. I canot see how that can have anything to do with inbalance of power.
  3. Okay uhm! What other definitions of incest are out there actually? Are we all talking about the same definition? Where did the topic change ? Did I miss something ?
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