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Do you want to trade place...you be of my religion and culture and I will be of yours. Let's see who has it harder.

First off, Saddam was kept in power because it served US interests. Got it? You do remember a certain picture of Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam. You do know that US supplied Saddam with chemicals that he used on Iraqis. You say "is that a goal to emulate?" Do YOU understand the concept of police? Do YOU think that US would not fall apart if its 1000s of police men and women were prevented from functioning? Now, who is being naive? My point is that Iraq has many different groups of people who are seeking power. For instance, Kurds--like Jews--would like their own homeland. There are other political groups Shia vs. Sunni that similiarly want power. You can think of similar examples in US. Of course, many more people in US have guns that in Iraq so I can only imagine a much worse scenario.

Another pro-Israli response. You just described what Israeli government is doing! Genocide, raping people, slaughtering blacks...You're right on the money. "a furious Sharon reportedly turned toward Peres, saying "every time we do something you tell me Americans will do this and will do that. I want to tell you something very clear, don't worry about American pressure on Israel, we, the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it." "LONDON, UK, 23 June 2002 -- Over 80 women in Nablus were raped and beaten by Israeli troops, who also killed many of their husbands and relatives trying to intervene, according to a testimony sent to British Labour MP Lynne Jones." "President of Israel was charged with rape" http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,,1997187,00.html Read selections from "Challenging Racism and Sexism" where the daughter of a Holocaust survivor and psychotherapist talks about sexism in Israel and why it is never mentioned in academia. Read the article by Francis A. Boyle entitled "Palestine Should Sue Israel for Genocide before the International Court of Justice" .... Stop mentioning pedophilia...what is your obsession with kids. You're not this Israeli diplomat charged with pedophilia, are you? http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3298274,00.html

That was meant for Moxie who accused me of being gay. I replied. I was not the one to make the accusation...I said that MUSLIMS were being raped, literally and figuratively, their bodies and their culture and religion... Interesting you compare me to Einstein because I do have a PhD in Sciences.

In the name of Allah, take your medicine! I mentioned that example for illustrative purposes. I read about it in detail from a number of eyewitness accounts at the time. It does make racist white people happier to think of it as a myth, so I will let you have that one. The example meant to illustrate that if a country's security forces are dismantled many opportunistic groups will take over. How come these very groups were pretty quiet when Saddam was in charge? I bet you will be the first to form a zionist gang if Canada was invaded by US. You have the hate-filled and racist attitude, you just don't have the power.

US is like the AIDS disease....when you destroy body's defense mechanism, other opportunist diseases take over. Do you remember the hurricane in Florida? Why were Americans raping and killing and stealing from each other? Some racist white Americans tried to blame it on them being mostly Black. Was it in name of religion, or because of the lawlessness and chaos? And Bin Laden WAS trained by CIA.

9/11 deaths: about 3,000. Those committed by Iraqis and Afghanis: 0 Iraqi and Afghani deaths as a result of US invasion: About a million people (Lancet article a while back said 600,000 IRAQIS...no mention of Afghanis). That's about 333 Muslim for every American. In other words, that's you punching me once, and me grabbing your brother (most hijackers were from Saudi Arabia--not Afghanistan or Iraq--whose government has more faith in US politics than Islam) and punch him 333 TIMES!!! Understood! And by the way, Bin Laden was trained by CIA. And what was that racist thing you were saying about Muslims again...they're rioting cause they're angry...why the hell would they be upset...MUST BE SOMETHING TO DO WITH ISLAM! When do you graduate elemantary school?

Why do I keep mentioning "rape"? Why shouldn't I? Why do YOU think it's GAY rape? Did I mention it or have you grease up your asshole hoping for the best! I'm not into that...but Israeli government can do you that favor for sure! YOu say: Islam is a religion not a RACE, it isn't racism to discuss Islamists it's called a conversation. So the previous poster says I CAN'T criticize Jews or Israel because it's antisemitism and now you say that we CAN criticize Muslims because it's called a conversation. Thank you for clearing up for me...would you prefer if Muslims did not exist at all, or do you need to take out your age on somebody afterall? And the attacks on Islam and Muslims continues.... Next!

blah blah blah don't criticize jews, you're antisemite...don't criticize Israel, you're antisemite...and now a nutjob like you tells me "Have you even met one and been able to sit and talk with one? I doubt it". Really? It is inconceivable for you to believe any Jews could be so racist and bigoted that they would say the will defend Israel NO MATTER WHAT THE PRICE?! Do YOU know every Jew? I mean WOW! You come out and criticize me when I truthly tell you that I engaged in talks with dozens of Jews on the internet, and then you claim to know all Jews. Maybe YOU should go out and talk to some Jews! Are you even a Jew or are you trying to engage me in a heated debate because you have nothing better to do? Take the cotton out of your ears! I have talked to fundamentalist extremist idiotic Jews who want the world to become fundamentalist Jewish, to have racist Jewish laws govern all people in the West. They blame Arabs and Muslims for all the world's problems because after Christians (2 billion), Muslims are their second competition (over 1 billion), and since Jews control the media, now America shares in their hatred of Muslims. They're eliminating their opposition one by one. And don't start telling me that YOU don't control the media...we're talking about secular Jews, and you're blinded by faith. I still can't forget few years ago when every major newspaper I read in Canada (Americans too) said that Israeli soldiers were KIDNAPPED by Palestinians! How the hell do you KIDNAP soldiers?! It's captured, not kidnapped....big bad Palestinian evil people KIDNAPPED our baby-like innocent soldiers! What a bunch of b.s. What a bias! There are literally thousands of sources of pro-Israeli and anti-Islamic hatred and bias perpetrated by Jews but how do you mention them? I provided several links and this idiotic fundamentalist Jewish guy in this forum says it's antisemitic because it's from an Arab website! In other words, Arabs are racist and no links from Arab sites can be trusted! WOW, the racism! I provided links from US sites and they were similarly antisemitic...apparently US sites are antisemitic unless they worship Israeli's actions. I provided sites owned by Israeli Jews...guess what, they were self-hating Jews!!!!!! Let me add more exclamation marks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In other words, now I very much hate the word antisemitism because a Jew can punch me and if I complain I'm antisemitic. There's no way out of it. So just a warning...if you play the antisemitic card, I will create a new word (we deserve it), and will respond to your every criticism as (Jewish Hatredism). And why the hell only Jews have their own special word? Antisemitic should also apply to other groups but it doesn't (look up the roots of it). Why don't we have a special word for Jewish hatred against Pakistanis, Arabs, Muslims, Iranians, Palestinians...just racism or bigotry...because they're not God's special people! And here's a link anyways...though I know you gonna piss all over anything critical of your beloved criminal Israel...(http://www.ifamericansknew.org). The U.S. gives more than $7,023,288 per day to the Israeli government and military and gives no money to the Palestinians. 7,633 Israelis and 31,531 Palestinians have been injured since September 29, 2000. 119 Israeli children have been killed by Palestinians and 971 Palestinian children have been killed by Israelis since September 29, 2000 Israel has been targeted by at least 65 UN resolutions and the Palestinians have been targeted by none 1 Israeli is being held prisoner by Palestinians, while 10,756 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel 0 Israeli homes have been demolished by Palestinians and 4,170 Palestinian homes have been demolished by Israel since September 29, 2000 The Israeli unemployment rate is 9%, while the Palestinian unemployment is estimated at 40%. Israel currently has 223 Jewish-only settlements and ‘outposts’ built on confiscated Palestinian land. Palestinians do not have any settlements on Israeli land. SO read this or does reading about Palestians death is antisemitic too!!!

"Basically you are acting as if you own the place." Unless you are running this forum, shut your mouth. That post was not directed at you, and I can not keep arguing with you, when you don't answer my questions. The reference to the "hundreds of posters" was about the forums that I have joined since six months ago. At least in this forum I have one person who somewhat agrees with me. And no I did not start posting with such emotion before. After dozens of people ganged up on me and asked all Muslims to leave Canada (not Jews or anybody else), I have developed a more fighting spirit. You have not been in the same situation so I don't expect you to understand how it feels for people to continually gang up on you. Most people disagree with me here, but only three or four people have actually posted anything. So there.

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Amnesty's accusations against the Israeli army include unlawful killings, torture, extensive and wanton destruction of property, obstruction of medical assistance and targeting of medical personnel. Amnesty International Report 2005 - Introduction (935K) A-Z summary of key countries (1MB) Most computers will open PDF documents automatically, but you may need to download Adobe Acrobat Reader Download the reader here Amnesty also says Israel has continued to use Palestinians as "human shields" during military operations, "forcing them to carry out tasks that endangered their lives", despite an injunction by Israel's high court banning the practice. The report accuses Israel of offering impunity to soldiers and settlers who commit crimes against Palestinians. "In the overwhelming majority of the thousands of cases of unlawful killings and other grave human rights violations in the previous four years, no investigations were known to have been carried out," the report says. "The Israeli army and police ... routinely increased restrictions on the local Palestinian population in response to attacks by Israeli settlers," it adds.

Still not anwering my questions: how would you feel if my friends raped your brother and sister, and killed your parents. AND AS IF THAT WAS NOT ENOUGH...and if you shut your mouth and dealt with it, they kept on insulting and humiliating you in the media (i.e. throughout the world)?! What did you think that Muslims are having the time of their life with US and Israel raping them on a daily basis? Don't you have no sympathy? Don't you have no family? Don't you have no values? Is your life so empty? What do you live for...to come on a forum and say I hate their prophet...and call him names... Are you a pedophile yourself? I hear those people hate themselves so much they project it onto others? Sir, I think sir, I salute you for your hatred

Thank you. Of the hundreds of posters, one person somewhat agrees with me. If I were in Israel I have a feeling I would get at least a couple more people siding with me. In Canada, my local paper is run by Israelis, media...everything that truly matters to me. They won't publish my letters but they will publish anti-Islam letters. Even on a forum I got pro-Isreali anti-Muslims banging up on me nonstop. They all use free-speech as the guise to make fun of Islamic values. It's like of the millions of things that they could be talking about, they can only think of mocking Muslims. And when? When over a million Iraqis are dead or injured, 4 million refugees, millions lost their house, their jobs, ... They just won't leave us alone. How the hell did we ever deserve this? Instead of capturing Bin Laden they kill over a million people. I hope they all burn in hell...actually, I hope they all experience what Iraqis are going through...no more no less.

You stopped using "sir", so you're less afraid of me...that's good. Now you're trying to make me upset to see my reaction. What a pathetic little life you have that you only seek meaning by demeaning others. Iran held a drawing contest to mock holocaust and it gave the Jews a taste of its own medicine. You know where you belong? On a Nazi forum. In the guise of free speech you can insult and disrespect others. It has nothing to do with Islamic laws that you mention. You insult a culture, a people. You can take away all the laws but Jews will react very strongly to anyone who denies holocaust. Is it somekind of law? Go ahead and spew your hate speech. I really do hope that once you will have a guest who will insult and disrespect you and your family, and then you can think about how insults can hurt. Oh, and let's say somebody raped your sister and brother before hand and is occupying your house. Yea, that's better. You had no response to the rest of my post, eh? Revealing.

We do have international laws, it's just that the freaking superpower US doesnt respect any of them and enforces only the ones that are in its own interest. If you've got a gun and you kill someone, you get the chair. If it's US, it can kill a million and you can't do anything about. And it's allies (Brit, Israel, etc) have the same immunity.

I am having a serious conversation and when someone uses emoticons, the smiley face, they might as well laugh in your face. That is impolite. Emoticons are for little girls as far as I'm concerned. I don't need to put an angry face if I tell you to get lost. That's my opinion and you're not the first to oppose it. You can use it or not...I'm just explaining my reaction so don't go distorting what I say again. Second, nobody "deserves" a 9/11 and I don't think I deserved to get held up at the security of airport for another 2 hours but I know how people think. Third, I don't care about the other b.s. about the toy. Don't draw cartoons making fun of the prophet, don't name animals or toys or something else after it IF YOU DON'T WANT TO OFFEND MUSLIMS. Nobody is stopping you if that makes you happy. But understand that happens when a lot of people become upset. I would think that invading Muslims countries, raping people and killing people, flushing Korans down the toilet should provide enough satisfcation for people like you who seem intent on starting WWIII. Maybe you can give Muslims a break and let them bury their dead, and deal with their own shit for now. Leave them alone. They have been humiliated enough and it's not easy when people keep poking them. Stop it.

I don't know what that means. I'm a Pakistani but I grew up in Canada.

Read my post in the other thread. The gang includes a number of other who keep posting hate threads against Islam using the bear example to make fun of them. Hate speech is different from free speech. I'm glad you're not afraid of me because I am very scary looking because I have a beard which makes some people very uncomfortable.

My quick posts and comments today have been directed at some posters and I don't really know how I ended up having a conversation with you...I expected THEM to reply, so if you do not mock Muslims, I have no beef with you. I respect you and your opinion. People are mocking Muslims, someone said he wanted to name his toilet after them, and that's really racist. I think that woman has to apologize if she named the bear Muhammad but that's it. She did offend Muslims. That's all I'm asking.

I second that. I don't want Israel gone, but I don't want occupation either. End this god-damned never-ending conflict!

When you keep using "sir" it show your fear, and I was saying that for your benefit. It's very impersonal, and unusual. If it makes you happy, use it or abuse it. If you're not a Jew and still feel the need to mock Muslims and support Israel, then something is wrong with you. You're either racist, or think Israel is made from marshmallows. I will refer you to some websites and maybe you can learn something before you start supporting a terrorist state.

Wow, you're pretty afraid of me, are't you?! So beyond all that hatred, is merely fear? No, I won't hurt you...I'hve never hurt a fly (well, I once killed a rat) so go back to using happy faces and keep taking Prozac twice a day. Oh yea, and don't forget distorting what I say because it's easier to mock me that way. I don't own the forum, so what? I still can complain about all you guys ganging up on just because I refuse to have blind faith in your beloved Israel.

Who is this Sara you mentioning? Did you take your medications today? By the way, if you don't understand my English, then don't read. Me no understand language...comprehend...me no English. Does that confirm your stereotype of a Pakistani? Better?

Why do you keep calling me "sir"? Last time I heard someone call me "sir" ten times was when a cop told me to move along at the scene of an accident. You're not a cop, are you? One "sir" suffices. On to more serious stuff: people can say whatever they like. However, Jews are just about equal in number to Arabs and Muslims in West (probably less though). However, it feels like we're in Israel. The majority of opinions and threads are pro-Israel or anti-Isalm. Why this discrepancy? Don't tell me that's mere conicidence.