Nina

And for goodness sakes give me a break man. Your website was founded and directed by Dr. Michael Shermer, a former fundementalist christian who happens to be a producer of FOX TV. And you have the audacity to quote this source as a serious rebuttal to highly verifiable evidence? The only thing this guy has going for him is that he supports Evolution rather than Intelligent Design.

Your source is quite useless, it gives a single persons opinion, it does not give facts at all. If you want me to consider conflicting evidence, give me facts please, not the opinion of an individual by the name of Phil Mole. As for Alex Brown being one of the biggest investment banks in the world, what on earth has that got to do with the price of eggs exactly? Your rebuttal is poor to say the least, I give you facts, you give me opinion and conjecture. Next time you might want to give me an unbiased, credible source if you please.

Another myth we perpetrate. All you have to do is go into any food service joint and see that CDN's are pathetic in comparison to our southern neighbours I disagree, all canadians I have met have impeccable manners, perhaps you are mixing with the wrong class of people

Funny how facts take the wind of of your paranoid sails eh? source:http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/06-09-11.html Sorry about that. Please don't be sorry, you have posted nothing that takes any wind out of my sails at all. why should your post do that exactly?. You have not given an explanation that covers my questions in the least, I suggest you read it again. There is another fact to consider here, the fact that you cannot resist pigeon-holing me, the fact that you do this, leads me to believe you have no interest in 'thinking' or debating, just insulting. Whether or not put options had been placed before 9/11 at high rates does not answer in a satisfactory manner why almost all bets prior to 9/11 were placed by ONE company, who just happened to be intrinsically linked with the executive director of the CIA. Oh as another point of interest, I suppose the same reasoning can be applied to the two tenants of the WTC too? You will do yourself a big favour regarding the respect stakes if you refrained from trying to score cheap points by using a very poor attempt at ridicule and actually thought before you speak in such a manner.

You are right, one only has to look at the average Canadian who understand nothing of the world. The Americans hold no title on ignorance I assure you. I have to disagree with you, most Europeans know more about the US than americans do and they certainly have a wider knowledge on crucial subjects such as world politics, history and especially geography . Canadians, without doubt, hold the title in regard to impeccable manners in my opinion, another aspect in which the US fails abysmally.

I suppose if you called it dating, it would be acceptable. Lets face it, every single time a young fella with raging hormones takes a young woman out on a date, (buys her flowers, pays for a meal, pays for the cinema etc.etc.) he is in all honesty hoping at the end of the evening to be able to have a sexual encounter with her (any young hormonal fella who claims otherwise is deluding himself). Tell me, what is the difference between paying for sex in cash and paying for sex in kind? Why do so many people feel that prostitution is any different?

It is so easy and makes everyones lives so much more comfortable to just dismiss evidence that tells us all is definately not well with the official explanation regarding the events of 9/11. I can understand why a large proportion of the world's population (especially those in the US) prefer to pretend that governments never lie to us, that they always have our best interests at heart and that they would never, ever allow their citizens to die to proceed with an agenda. Unfortunately this world is full of physcopaths, who have little regard for human life and if you look at the definition of physcopathy, those in positions of great power fit the criteria perfectly. Of course, that does not mean the US government planned and implemented 9/11, even if they did, we will probably never be privy to absolute proof that they did. What I do think we should do is take off our rose tinted spectacles and look at all the evidence that we are privy to (from both sides of the coin, if you do not look from both sides, you cannot hope to think rationally and logically and partisan politics has no place when you want to apply logic or rational). If you look at 9/11 as a sordid crime and think about how our police force would investigate such a crime. what is the first aspect they look at? Who benefits. Who has benefitted? really think about that one. Then evidence, police do not only look at the 'in your face, obvious evidence, they look at the subtle evidence, which by the lay man is sometimes over looked. I am thinking here about the Insider dealing that went on in the run up to 9/11. This evidence is not conspiracy theory, this evidence is concrete fact, cannot be disputed, between the 16th and 17th of September the Chicago Options Exchange received 4.774 put options that United Airlines would fall. One 10th Sept, 4,516 of these bets were placed on the likelihood that the value of American Airlines would also fall, no other airline showed such activity. This is not conspiracy theory, this is fact. Two tenants of the WTC also saw extrodinary put options on their shares, Morgan Stanley and Merrill Lynch. All this activity was unprecedented and if you look at the odds of this happening they are almost off the scale. Ok, you could say, well anything is possible and I suppose it is, the strangest co-incedences do sometimes happen but, so many? at the same time? The profit on this betting was $3. 17 million dollars, that amount by todays standards is not that much, this to my mind is not the problem or the smoking gun. The smoking gun in my own view is the fact that the firm that placed the majority of these put options was Alex Brown Inc, until 1998 this company was headed by Buzzy Krongard, who was, at the time of 9/11 executive director of the CIA. I ask you to think about this question, could Krongard have warned Alex Brown Inc that the attack was iminent, because Krongard knew it was? And that information was passed to certain employees, either intentionally or by accident, who took advantage of this information by placing put options on the airlines and on the two WTC tenants? This is not a tin foil hat theory, this is a rational theory based on concrete evidence. The question you then should ask is; if the CIA were privy to inside information regarding an attack and in my view the evidence tends to lead you to that conclusion based on serious, rational and logical thinking, then so was the US government. This makes a lot of sense to me (we are still thinking rationally and logically I hope?). And if the US administration knew and possibly lied to the populace about inside knowledge of an iminant attack, what else have they lied to us about.