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By the way: cknykid cut out the racist bullshit. Its crap like that which allows defenders of the state of Israel to label its critics as anti-Semites. We're talking about the actions of a government, not of a race or religion. Knock it off. What part of my post is racist? Please feel free to point it out. It is your opinion that in the manner the state of Israel is conducting itself in the occupied territories is an action of a government, not of a race or religion. I think otherwise, it is my observation that this whole race is responsible for the ethnic cleansing that is going on until today. They have been funding this ideology of hate and knowingly supported ethnic cleansing. It has been little kids with rocks against tanks gunship helicopters and airplanes for far too long. A suicide bomber is a poor man’s F16. They have been killing innocents for too long and now the playing field is equal. How long young boys and girls of Palestine will keep killing themselves along with innocent Israeli men, women and children? How long as this terrible game of tit for tat will go on? Zionist have a thirst of blood and land and they have built real walls of hatred and animosity which need to be demolished by eliminating the real causes of conflict. Your post is an embarrassment of anti-semiticism full of racial disfigurations and inaccuracies. You are just another bigot. Did you know that 1/3 of Israel's population is non Jewish and that most Jews are secular Jews from not only Israel but around the world? Now the village idiot, what part of my post is anti-semi. Please feel free to bring it up. It is getting a little old to hide behind the word anti-semi. Israel is a state, has certain elements of democratic legitimacy, was sanctioned by the UN and the International community, and it has a right to exist, and defend itself. These facts are self evident. Ok here you go, you admit yourself Israel has certain elements of democratic legitimacy. Now let me educate you more. Israel is not the sort of democracy that is dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal. If it were, it would soon cease to exist as a Jewish state which it is. Under the “law of return,” any Jew in the world has the right to come to Israel, even if none of his ancestors ever lived there, and claim Israeli citizenship. So if Seymour Steinberg of Los Angeles ever feels like “returning” to Israel, he can immigrate at any time, with rights denied to non-Jewish natives of the country whose ancestors have always lived there. Not that most Israeli Jews now believe that God gave the Holy Land to the Jews; but since most Jews used to believe it, that somehow gives today’s Jews the right of exclusive possession of it. If you think religion is irrational, take a good look at irreligion. Under Israeli law, non-Jews who left Israel in 1948 or later have no right of return. That they actually lived there once doesn’t help them; their homes have long since been seized for “Israelis.” Maybe I am wrong, please correct me. It is being attacked by terrorists funded by Syria, Saudi Arabia and Iran. Until Iraq was invaded it too was funding the war against Israel. First rule of complaining about terrorism is that you yourself stop being a terrorist. Israel has a long record of human rights violation and ethnic cleansing. How can you defend it? Humor me it could not regard as terrorism any acts committed in a "legitimate struggle against foreign occupation." A foreign occupation is a terrorist act in its own. Feel free to explain how taking away people’s freedom is not terrorism and fighting for one’s freedom is terrorism.

It’s no secret that an “Israeli” means a Jew. Non-Jewish citizens of Israel are not called Israelis, even if that term fits them legally. We automatically deny the word to non-Jews, because we all know that Israel is for Jews only. And of course most Arabs in Israel don’t think of themselves as “Israelis” and prefer to be called “Palestinians.” The country was called Palestine for many centuries, until the Jewish state was established in 1948. Israel was to be, and still insists it is, a “democracy,” but not necessarily the sort of democracy that is dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal. If it were, it would soon cease to exist as a Jewish state. Under the “law of return,” any Jew in the world has the right to come to Israel, even if none of his ancestors ever lived there, and claim Israeli citizenship. So if Seymour Steinberg of Los Angeles ever feels like “returning” to Israel, he can immigrate at any time, with rights denied to non-Jewish natives of the country whose ancestors have always lived there. Not that most Israeli Jews now believe that God gave the Holy Land to the Jews; but since most Jews used to believe it, that somehow gives today’s Jews the right of exclusive possession of it. If you think religion is irrational, take a good look at irreligion. Under Israeli law, non-Jews who left Israel in 1948 or later have no right of return. That they actually lived there once doesn’t help them; their homes have long since been seized for “Israelis.” Israel’s newly elected prime minister, Ariel Sharon, emphatically refuses to consider allowing native non-Jews to come home, because their numbers would swamp the Jews politically and the Jewish state would cease to be Jewish. The Jewish minority would go the way of white South Africans when apartheid was abolished. Israel has been an embarrassing stepchild of the Western world, which is committed to democracy and knows how shameful it would be for a modern democracy to treat Jews as non-Jews are treated by Israel.

Do you ever wonder why Zionists hate so much? It is because of a massive guilt complex they have because they crucified their Messiah. They know they are under judgment, and they are mad. Elohim still has them under bondage-- under persecution. They cried regarding the murder of Jesus Christ, "His blood be upon us and our children," and thus it is. Someone must take the brunt of Zionist rage, and the Arabs are simply handy and worthy by reason of proximity. How dare they whine at the world to memorialize the suffering of the Jews in the holocaust?

There are worse things than death and one of them is taking a person’s freedom away.

ENIN, West Bank, Oct. 5 — It was a few minutes past 8 a.m. on Saturday when Hanadi Jaradat's parents last saw her. The 27-year-old apprentice lawyer was in a hurry as she walked down the steep, narrow streets of this old Arab town, telling her parents she had a land contract to complete, for a fee of $500 in Israeli shekels, a small fortune for any impoverished family in Jenin.At the parting, Ms. Jaradat was barely six hours away from her death. In that time, she met with accomplices from the Islamic Jihad militant group, journeyed 30 miles west across the hills to the Israeli city of Haifa, changed from a traditional black Arab cloak and headdress into jeans and a ponytail that made her indistinguishable from the casual weekenders of Israel, and walked into a seaside restaurant to detonate a body-belt bomb. In the blast, she killed herself and 19 others, all Israelis — 14 Jews, 3 of them children, and 5 Arab Christians.What happened in those hours is the focus now of Israeli investigators, who want to know how Ms. Jaradat reached Haifa, crossing the path of a 400-mile barrier of electrified fencing that Israel is erecting in the hope of halting Palestinian attacks. An Israeli security official said on Sunday that preliminary investigation showed that the bomber had entered Israel through a "hole" in the 90 miles of fence that have been completed in northern Israel — perhaps, although the official did not say so, through a gap that had been left lightly guarded just east of the Palestinian village of Qaffin.Ms. Jaradat's parents, in Jenin, say questions about the bombing and their daughter's involvement with Islamic Jihad are baffling ones. Right up to the moment of their last farewell, they said, they had no indication that their daughter had any contacts with Islamic militants — no sense, they said, that she had any ambition but to establish her career as a lawyer, marry and have children.Her father, Tayseer, age 50, moves slowly, suffering from a degenerative liver disease that made it difficult to keep up with his daughter as they walked on Saturday morning, Ms. Jaradat ostensibly to her law office, her parents to the vegetable market in the center of Jenin. So she said she would walk ahead, her parents said, and waved as she walked away, smiling — just as she appeared later, on television, in the traditional suicide bomber's video she made, when she closed the Koran and smiled, shyly, as though preparing for a graduation or a wedding."She walked faster than us, saying `Hurry, hurry,' then she went ahead," said Rahmeh Jaradat, 51, the bomber's mother, who gathered her seven surviving children around her as she spoke at her brother-in-law's house in Jenin, where the family moved before Israeli troops arrived in Jenin in the predawn hours of Sunday to demolish their home, the routine punishment for suicide bombers' families."She gave us the impression she was in a hurry to complete that deal," her mother said. "She was happy," her father said.The suicide bombing was one of more than 100 in the past three years of the uprising that Palestinians call the Aqsa intifada, attacks that have killed about 430 people, about half the intifada's Israeli victims. But the Haifa attack was heard around the world, because it was followed by an Israeli airstrike in Syria, and prompted the United Nations Security Council to meet in a special session on Sunday.In Israel, the Haifa attack cast a heavy pall over Yom Kippur, the Jewish Day of Atonement. In a relative's home in the Old Quarter of Jenin, a short walk from the field of tumbled stones that is all that is left of their old house, the Jaradats had their own story of loss, before that of Hanadi — the shooting death in Jenin four months ago of their oldest son, Fadi, 23, and his cousin Saleh, 31, during an Israeli crackdown.But a visitor meeting the Jaradats found no overt grieving for Hanadi, and no sympathy for the Haifa victims, at least none the family would acknowledge. Jenin is ringed by Israeli armor, a city not far from Lebanon and Syria that has become a stronghold of Islamic Jihad, with simmering hostilities among its 30,000 people. Eighteen months ago, in one of the harshest attacks of the intifada, the government of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon cracked down with infantry, tanks and bulldozers that killed dozens of Palestinians and left an entire neighborhood in rubble.Much about the Jaradats suggested the careworn but proud gentility found in many Palestinian homes. There was elaborate courtesy, and thick cups of Turkish coffee. The family recounted a common Palestinian saga — the father's long years working in Israel as a house painter, the struggle to support Hanadi when she studied law in Jordan, the sense of hopelessness once Israel closed its borders to Palestinian workers after the conflict began, the reliance on the pittances Fadi, their son, could earn working in the vegetable market.But on the subject of the bombing, the responses sounded programmed, as though the family were more concerned about the pervasiveness of Islamic holy war in Jenin than in voicing their innermost thoughts. In place of tears, there were wan smiles when the family talked about Hanadi's death, and a studied indifference to the carnage she caused. The parents spoke of the attack as "God's will."When asked if they had any words of sorrow for the Haifa victims and their families, a silence fell. Eventually, Mrs. Jaradat spoke up. "Tell them they should think about why our daughter did this," she said. After another pause, she continued: "She has done what she has done, thank God, and I am sure that what she has done is not a shameful thing. She has done it for the sake of her people." Mr. Jaradat said: "I don't want to talk about my feelings, my pain, my suffering. But I can tell you that our people believe that what Hanadi has done is justified. Imagine yourself watching the Israelis kill your son, your nephew, destroying your house — they are pushing our people into a corner, they are provoking actions like these by our people."The bombing and its aftermath prompted Yasir Arafat, the Palestinian leader, to appoint an "emergency cabinet" to guide the Palestinians through the crisis. [but the new prime minister, Ahmed Qurei, said Monday that while he hoped to negotiate a truce to halt suicide bombings, there would be no use of force against groups like Islamic Jihad, as urged by the United States. "I will not listen to the Americans; I will listen to our national rights," he told The Associated Press.]On its face, the bombing appeared to have exposed the new Israeli barrier as a sort of Maginot Line, which failed in one of its first crucial tests.Another issue to be investigated is that Islamic Jihad, normally conservative on the role of women, used a woman to carry out the bombing.Yet another point of inquiry for the investigators is the fact that Ms. Jaradat changed into Western clothes. In Jenin, her parents said, they had never seen her wear anything outside her home but a traditional Arab robe and a headdress. Somewhere along the road to Haifa, she found time to change and perhaps to record the video released by Islamic Jihad after the bombing, which showed Ms. Jaradat wearing a black and silver sash, the colors of Islamic holy war, inscribed with the words that open the Koran, "There is no God but God."Like many suicide bombers' families, the Jaradats said they had never suspected that their daughter had any links to Islamic militant groups until her photograph flashed up on television on Saturday night as the bomber identified by Islamic Jihad. Hours earlier, they said, they had heard about the attack, and called her on her cellphone to urge her to come home early in case of trouble with Israeli troops. "But her phone was blocked — she didn't answer," Mrs. Jaradat said.Hanadi Jaradat was deeply religious, rising before 5 each morning to pray and read the Koran. But a new radicalism crept into her remarks about Israelis after her brother died, they said."She was full of pain about that," Mrs. Jaradat said. "Some nights, she woke screaming, saying she had nightmares about Fadi." Last week, the family said, Ms. Jaradat went to an Israeli military unit to request a permit for her father to go to Haifa for treatment for his liver ailment. "The Israelis told her to get out and not come back," Mrs. Jaradat said. "After Fadi, no member of the Jaradat family was going to get a permit to go to Haifa."

Palestine is a bitter example of how people are made to suffer because of struggle to control land. It is an unfortunate state of affair where the illegal occupation of land by foreign people tends to make the life of native people miserable. Israeli repression in the occupied areas of West Bank and Gaza is for one reason that is to maintain control over land. This conflict has territorial, political, economic and religious dimensions. The UN Security Council has passed resolutions calling for the resolution of these conflicts by taking into account the will of local people and the withdrawal of foreign forces. More than fifty years have passed and these resolutions are still unresolved. In the meantime, the world has changed while the fate of the people of Palestine remains unchanged. Israel’s policy of settlement and territorial expansion in the Arab occupied territories centre on its exploitation of the resources of such lands for colonization. The past three years have proven beyond any doubt that there will be no military solution in Palestine/Israel. On the contrary, the longer the carnage continues, the more entrenched it becomes. Saturday’s suicide bombing in Haifa was carried out by a 29-year-old woman, a lawyer whose brother was killed by the Israeli military in June. Air strikes in Syria will not stop others from following in her footsteps, only expand the circle of people with a reason to so do and reinforce their motivation.

Brainless thing to do on Sharon’s part, to bomb a place in Syria that is suppose to be a so called terrorist camp. I think he ran out of places to bomb in Palestine and Lebanon. Even if it was a terrorist camp. How hard is it to open a new one? The tax base that Syria has or for that matter any country has, bombing a camp will not solve the problem. What's the big deal with opening a new terrorist camp? This strike does not make Israel safer, infact it will only do the opposite. Other side of the coin is events like these do provide good cheap entertainment.

It doesn’t matter what a person’s faith is you can be a Jew, christen, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist or atheist or whatever. The more you think we are different, travel, get to know each other and you will find the more we are the same. Only created differences exist to divide and rule the population. You are smart enough to brag all you want that your invisible god is better than there invisible god or your fairytale religion is better than there fairytale religion but are you smarter than a chimp in the jungle because you don’t see anything wrong with killing innocent people in the name of your so called noble cause. Things are pretty simple but people who want power make them complicated for the ignorant. Truth is always out there for those who want to find it. And there are worse things in life than dying and one of those is taking away a person’s freedom.

Israel needs to get out of Palestine land and let those poor people be free. This day and age its pretty stupid claming a land because your invisible god told you it belongs to you and your invisible god is better than there invisible god. This whole Zionist idea of occupation is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if you come first, you are still retarded and it doesn’t make you smart. Colonization has always been an ignorant idea One man’s terrorist is other man’s freedom fighter.