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Switzerland? What is the relevance of that? What is the other language of Alsace? Once again you fail to distinguish between having an official lnaguage for government and civil service and banning a language outright. No one would ban french. But should it be mandatory to speak it in Parliament? How does it work in France, M?

And if they were they would still be required to speak french in Paris, rather than Paris speak Alsatian for them. Basically you just admitted your own example is irrelevant. The argument here is not whether we should have one language or two, but whether it was such an outlandish idea back then. You compared it to the Confederate flag (ie slavery, segregation, etc). That is pushing it, M Dancer. You know it. What he said is relatively mild compared to things a lot of people said. I would say there is a better case for people to demand Trudeau's picture be removed from displays.

Lol. You must have something against the English then, since by the same logic most other nations and ethnicities honor people others would find offensive.

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Your name isn't Lord Durham is it?

And are all road signs in France provided in both French and Alsatian. Are civil servants required to speak Alsatian. French politicians as well? A unilingual nation does not mean that French would be banned. It means that people who are not French would not be required to speak it.

Well, yes it is a place for her to express her right-winged ideas. In case you didn't notice this is a Political chat. There is a right wing and a left wing. This is not Rabble Babble where the socialist crowd is all sharing a brain cell and banning those who have their own brain cells. And also, Moxie is not a fundamentalist Christian.

But I would bet that the vast majority of people who have this belief are not harming you in any way whatsoever.

That's a bad comparison. An historical figure who posed the idea that it would a good thing to be a unilingual nation and that since it was British territory that language ought to be English does not sound so outlandish to me. Personally I have no doubt that had it been the French who won this would not be a bilingual nation. And you are comparing this to the Confederate flag which to the NAACP would be a symbol of breeding their own people like cattle for slavery. That's a bit much M. Dancer. This is not in the Confederate flag league, but perhaps a few steps up from the Shane Doan league. You would be hard pressed to find historical figures who did not say something offensive. Abe Lincoln said some things about the lesser intelligence of a certain race he was trying to free from slavery, I believe. And based on the case against this fellow, I would say alot of people could just as easily demand Trudeau's picture come down from displays.

So what? What does that have to do with God? So has atheist communism impeded truth. And it has put to death its own moreso than Christianity. Do you judge all atheists by this?

Cybercoma why do you keep beating up little children and old ladies? Seriously, do you think that is what most people think God wants. When Church gets out on Sunday do you usually have to hide from the people who come out with machine guns and machetes to reak havoc on the non-believers?

It was not a blasphemy. The scientific community of the time were the ones who were outraged about that, moreso than the church.

Who are you referring to here, Margrace?

My point was that this woman who says this nonsense teaches people. Not that being a teacher made her points valid, but the opposite. Wasn't arguing with you, Angus. I didn't know they gave her the boot, though. I read the Red-X stuff before, Noah.

She is a Uni Professor. Miss Horn.

For real?

Now that argument is useless. About them putting ours to death while we dont put theirs. A Canadian who commits a crime in the US is a criminal to America. Though he may be a Canadian, his crime was against the US. So the Crown does not decide how to mete justice out in this case because his crime was not committed against the Crown. The crime was committed against the US. It is a breach of their justice system and their justice system decides how to deal with it. If you dont want Canadians to die of the American death penalty the only answer is that they abolish it.

Rue, why do you need to write reams and reams and reams to explain yourself. Here is what you did. No matter how many thousand words you use to explain it, you said in response to Kengs mad rant on pedophilia, that these were his own sexual feelings and he must take charge of them. You basically accused him of being a pedophile. That he projected this idea about grooming youngsters on gays because they are his feelings. And it was probably jokingly, but nonetheless, don't try to skip your way out of it, Rue. This is a dumb argument. The fact that someone is dead set against something may in some situations mean they are repressing something, but not always, and certainly not most of the time. That is completely ridiculous, SIR.

I think that is what they meant Smallc. They are not just going to bat for just anyone who breaks another nations laws, unless the situation demands it.

But if you want to go to bat for Canadians who broke the laws of another nation (which puts them in their turf for punishment) then you must also go to bat for the people of those nations as well. Because in effect they are criminals of that nation. Their crimes were committed against that nation. Against that state. They are the same as native criminals to them. Or else it is unfair. You would be in effect telling another nation that it must treat a Canadian criminal differently, when lesser criminals on their own soil have gotten worse. The man broke the laws of their nation so what justice is there (for their own system of justice) if he is treated better than their own when they commit lesser crimes.

I agree with you. I am against the death penalty as well. But why should a Canadian get special treatment in a country which has the death penalty. Should he escape their laws when their own citizens cannot by virtue of his being Canadian. You and I do not agree with the death penalty. We are Canadians. Our jurisdiction is Canada. We don't have a say in how the US does things. The fact that a person is Canadian does not earn him special status when he breaks the laws of their land. So if you want to be moral about it, then you had better start protesting the death penalty when it is enforced against Americans as well. Because there is no reason why a Canadian should be treated any differently when breaking their laws.

I dont like people being executed either. But look....what difference does it make if he is Canadian and in his home country they dont have the death penalty. That doesn't apply in another democratic country. If a man from another nation commits a crime there they are not going to treat him better than anyone else who commits a crime there. The crime is committed on their soil. And according to their laws which he broke it would be highly unfair to give him special status. It is not Canada's responsibility to protect its citizens from the laws of another democratic nation which he broke. He is a criminal in their country who broke their laws. If a resident of the Netherlands comes to the US and smokes a joint outside a police station he cannot say to them when they come out and arrest him "Hey, you can't do this to me. I am Dutch. We are allowed to smoke weed in my country."

What does it matter? If a Canadian commits a crime in the US he is still a Canadian but for all intents and purposes he is a criminal in their system. Since he committed a crime against the US and not the Crown, the US decides how to deal with him. An American man commits a brutal crime in the US and he is given the death penalty. A Canadian man commits seven brutal crimes in the US and you think we should tell the US that he is special, he is Canadian, he doesn't deserve the same punishment as other people who have broken the laws of your country.

And their jurisdiction over those laws ends at our borders.

What does it matter if it is the law of Canada? I am not in favor of capital punishment either Myata, but here is the thing----if a Canadian commits brutal crimes south of the border what does it matter what Canadian law says. He is in the US. He committed a crime in a nation that employs the death penalty. Americans can punish crimes on their own soil according to their own laws. Basically what you would be saying is that while American criminals who commit brutal crimes on their own American soil are candidates for the death penalty, Canadians who commit even more brutal crimes (on American soil) should be given special treatment because they come from a country with different laws????? Think about that!